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    We are Doing a Solo trip to Botswana in August as below.

    Would be great to get feedback on our packing distribution plan.
    Camping booked & paid.
    Waiting for alternate Camp for Dijara paid booking.


    vehicle is 1999 3lt diesel prado
    snorkel
    recovery points
    hi-lift jack points
    OME suspension with extra 300 rear
    dual battery
    rear mount spare
    29meg radio

    Passenger seats
    40 lt footwell water tank
    double foam camp mattress - perhaps a heavy weight blow up mattress - any suggestions for 110kg
    cooler box
    picnic bag
    electronic bag, gps, cameras, torches, sat-phone, phones etc.
    laptop

    Roof rack
    80 litre jerry cans above b-pillars
    gas bottle between jerry cans
    ground tent, reflector cover, 2 plate gas cooker behind jerry cans
    2 spares at rear
    extra spare battery
    hi-lift on passenger side
    spade on drivers side
    steel prep table

    luggage compartment false bottom
    tools kit
    recovery kit
    tie downs
    luggage net
    compressor
    sand matts
    spares
    first aid bag
    jumper cables
    puncture kit
    small axe, panger & saw

    luggage compartment
    40lt fridge
    kitchen box
    beverage box
    vegetable box
    food box
    gas & electric box
    general box
    cloth bags x2
    2.5kw inverter/charger
    camp chairs x2
    sleeping bags
    pillows
    toiletries
    jackets & fleeces
    No1 potpie pot


    optional extra's?
    40lt shower bag


    Our route is
    August 2017

    5 - Hartebeest Dam
    6 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary

    7 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary
    8 - Island Safari Lodge/Maun
    9 - Island Safari Lodge/Maun - Flight over Delta
    10 - Dijara Camp - Visit 3rd Bridge
    11 - Dijara Camp - Boat Trip into Delta
    12 - Dijara Camp - explore Moremi
    13 - Muchenje Camp
    14 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    15 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    16 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    17 - Senyati Camp
    18 - Senyati Camp - Boat trip
    19 - Senyati Camp - Day trip to Vic Falls
    20 - Senyati Camp - Explore Chobe
    21 - Pelican Lodge - Via Hunters rd
    22 - Planet Baobab
    23 - Planet Baobab - trip to Nxai Pans
    24 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary - Via Kubu Island
    25 - Hartebeest Dam
    26 - PE

    Any advice for above route for
    Fuel stops
    Grocery stops
    Wood
    etc.

    Any recommendations for
    Boat trips into Delta
    Boat Trips in Chobe
    Delta Flights

    Last edited by Danman67; 2017/06/04 at 03:02 PM.
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    Hi Danman67, I don't see the kitchen sink!

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    Ha Ha nice

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    Having got the T shirt and also going solo, I can say watch out for overloading. We took far too much on our first couple of trips and soon whittled down to essentials.

    beverage box
    vegetable box
    food box

    These alone will take up far more weight and space than you think.
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    Also, small axe, panga and saw.
    Just take the panga and mukti task.
    Your roof rack is also very heavily loaded which will make your vehicle very top heavy. In thick sand you get a lot of vehicle sway which is dangerous for a top heavy vehicle. 4 x Jerry cans is at least 80kg.
    If you plan on keeping the vehicle I would really consider a long range tank.
    Warm jackets and fleece, just take one that is more versatile.
    Halve everything you are taking and you may still be oveloaded.
    Remember that weight is your biggest enemy.
    Mattress, blow up is poor insulator and a puncture is a real possibility which can cause you to have an uncomfortable sleep for the rest of your trip.
    Muchenje for four nights to explore Chobe and Senyati to explore Chobe as well.
    Stay at Muchenje for two nights.
    Move to Chobe River lodge for two nights.
    Before you get to to Chobe River Lodge, book a self drive trip along the Chobe River for the next morning.
    Then go and book a camp at Chobe River Lodge, at the same time go and book a Chobe River Cruise at the lodge for the next afternoon (same day as the game drive in Chobe Park. You can then also book a trip to Vic Falls from here, so you do not need to take your own vehicle into Zim, for the following day. For the trip into Zim, leave your vehicle parked in the parking area in front of the Chobe Lodge. You will return from Zim in the afternoon, when you can move to Senyathi for a stay there.
    Senyathi is quiet expensive, so it is a waste to be paying top dollar for a place to park your vehicle while at Vic Falls or exploring Chobe/Kasane. You could even book an extra night at Chobe River Lodge for this as their camp sites are very reasonably priced. Have not stayed at Muchenje. This was planned for the last trip, but too far out the way for Chobe self drive and river boat trip.
    You will only get back after dark from the river boat trip which leaves at 15h00, so you must be there 15 minutes before departure.
    Get a seat in front of the boat, as this is the section best for photography, when the nose of the boat is closest to your subject.
    Search "Tips on Over Landing/ Camping" which will give you ideas on your set up and planning for your trip, including water saving for washing when bush camping.
    Safe travels...

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    In my opinion you will be overloaded. Try to take a Satphone along as well. E.g. one spare wheel and patch kit will be fine. Don't leave the tracks. Your biggest challenge will be the road between Moremi and Chobe northern section. Bad bad road..take it slow and budget a full day's travelling. You need fuel to get from Maun to Kasane only. 80L of extra fuel seems excessive. A third battery is excessive. Rather carry a solar panel? You have enough time - why not do a trial run and spend a long weekend in the bush to test the packing and unpacking. Take along empty crates if required. There is no reason to strech your resources to the limit and punish the vehicle. Plan a Kasane visit to fill up on stocks - you seem to have enough time. After all of thr above - Plan for the worst and expect the best. Take it easy and enjoy! An overlanding trip should be easy-going and stress-free. My 2c worth..

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    Now my 2c worth.

    We are doinga Solo trip to Botswana in August as below.

    Would be great to get feedback on ourpacking distribution plan.
    Camping booked & paid.
    I see that you have not booked inside theparks.
    Waiting for alternate Camp for Dijara paid booking.
    Ask to move to move to South Gate I am sure that you will be lucky, at thattime of the year everything else will be fully booked. It will cost a bit more,


    vehicle is 1999 3lt diesel prado
    snorkel
    recovery points
    hi-lift jack points
    OME suspension with extra 300 rear
    dual battery
    rear mount spare

    Passenger seats
    40 lt footwell water tank.
    This is unnecessary all campsite with waterand ablutions. Just take a few 5ldrinking water bottles with you. Youwill be able to buy drinking water at many of the stops
    double foam camp mattress
    (this will work try go for high density withmemory foam.) - perhaps a heavy weight blow up mattress (no ways) - anysuggestions for 110kg
    cooler box
    picnic bag
    electronic bag, gps, cameras, torches, sat-phone, phones etc.
    laptop
    vhf radio

    Roof rack
    80 litre jerry cans above b-pillars
    gas bottle between jerry cans
    ground tent, reflector cover, 2 plate gas cooker behind jerry cans
    2 spares at rear
    (what spares are you referring to here? I hope nottyres- I guess a single spare tyre on the rear door mount will be fine)
    extra spare battery
    (this is unnecessary, if you have a second battery that willbe fine. Also the weight is too much toplace this on the roof rack.)
    hi-lift onpassenger side
    spade on drivers side
    steel prep table

    luggage compartment false bottom
    tools kit
    recovery kit
    tie downs
    luggage net
    compressor
    sand matts
    (at a push most will not take these along on the trip[you are doing.)
    spares
    first aid bag
    jumper cables
    puncture kit
    small axe, panger & saw
    (Hey man! are youinto logging? You will get firewoodsupplied at most of the campsites, I would suggest only the small axe)

    luggage compartment
    40lt fridge
    kitchen box
    beverage box
    vegetable box
    food box
    gas & electric box
    general box
    cloth bags x2
    2.5kw inverter/charger
    camp chairs x2
    sleeping bags
    pillows
    toiletries
    jackets & fleeces
    No1 potpie pot


    optional extra's?
    40lt shower bag
    (no need, you will be sorted at all your stops)


    Our route is
    August 2017
    5 - Hartebeest Dam
    6 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary

    7 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary
    8 - Island Safari Lodge/Maun
    9 - Island Safari Lodge/Maun - Flight overDelta
    10 - Dijara Camp - Visit 3rd Bridge (too far away)
    11 - Dijara Camp - Boat Trip into Delta (as above, too far, if you have had a flightover the delta and a Booze cruise on the Chobe that should be OK. Rather try and get this changed to South gateor at least 2 of the nights, you will then make 3rd Bridge, Blackpools and Xakanakas)
    12 - Dijara Camp - explore Moremi (One of Dijara’s pluses was that you could justrelax in camp and you would see enough game- 2 years back we saw wild dogs,lion, buffalo elephant, hippo, kudu, roan, impala and hyena at night. We alsoheard leopard closeby.)
    13 - Muchenje Camp
    14 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    15 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    16 - Muchenje Camp - Explore Chobe
    17 - Senyati Camp
    18 - Senyati Camp - Boat trip
    19 - Senyati Camp - Day trip to Vic Falls
    20 - Senyati Camp - Explore Chobe
    21 - Pelican Lodge - Via Hunters rd (if you skip the Huntersroad idea then you could add a night at Nxai)
    22 - Planet Baobab (one night will be fine although I would go forNxai Pan to give myself a bit more time there)
    23 - Planet Baobab - trip to Nxai Pans (this is 2.5 hours in and 2,5 hours out just tobe there. Parks like this are ideally suited for staying in and being close tothe animal action {day and night} But asyou say you have paid so no changes)
    Remember youhave Tiaan’s camp which is a gob’s spit away from Khumaga, this will be a greatstay-over as well. Going back to Maunand back to RSA via the southern route around Makgadigadi will be a clever ideaas the Nata - Francistown road is a mess and you will average 60Kmph there)
    24 - Khama Rhino Sanctuary - Via KubuIsland (quite a trip but doable just leave early)
    25 - Hartebeest Dam
    26 - PE

    Any advice for above route for
    Fuel stops
    Grocery stops (Maun) (Kasane) Remember the meat rule no meat North to South or East to West, if foundit will be confiscated or braaied)
    Wood
    (you need to supply your own wood if you are staying in the parks,otherwise you should source it from the private camps)
    etc.



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    I will be in Dijara on the 12th. I am also doing a solo trip with swambo- will hopefully meet up

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    Quote Originally Posted by dickr View Post
    I will be in Dijara on the 12th. I am also doing a solo trip with swambo- will hopefully meet up
    Have you got alternate accommodation yet for Dijara? Apparently they are closed and don't yet have a licence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danman67 View Post
    Have you got alternate accommodation yet for Dijara? Apparently they are closed and don't yet have a licence.
    Booked through Tara at Botswana Footprints and she is looking for alternative accommodation for me

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    Thanks for the feedback.

    Think I will ditch 2 Jerry cans & a third spare tyre (maybe even the second spare)
    I will keep the 40lt footwell water tank, I like to always travel with adequate water.
    Undecided about the sand matts, as they are permanent in the bakkie with the 4x4 items.

    Will do a pre-trip pack to see how the packing fits & to see where I can loose stuff.
    Will go with the foam mattress & will look to get a cover strap it to the roof rack.
    Last edited by Danman67; 2017/06/05 at 02:48 PM.
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    Our Revised packing list
    Have done a packing trial and all fits Ok and vehicle does not look or feel unbalanced.

    Just undecided on a second spare.
    40lt jerry cans should be adequate between stops with a range of 700 to 800 kms.

    Vehicle - 99 Prado 3lt diesel
    snorkel
    recovery points
    hi-lift jack points
    OME suspension with extra 300 at rear
    dual battery
    rear mount spare
    29meg radio

    Passenger seats
    40 lt footwell water tank
    cooler box
    picnic bag
    electronic bag, gps, cameras, torches, sat-phone, phones etc.
    laptop

    Roof rack - desert rack
    40 litre jerry cans at rear
    gas bottle at rear
    ground tent, reflector cover, 2 plate gas cooker at front
    aluminium table
    extra spare battery at rear
    hi-lift on passenger side
    spade on drivers side
    double foam mattress

    luggage compartment false bottom
    tool kit & punter kit
    recovery kit
    tie downs
    compressor
    sand matts
    spares, oil & brake fluid
    first aid bag
    jumper cables
    puncture kit
    small axe, panger & saw

    luggage compartment
    40lt fridge
    kitchen box
    beverage box
    general box
    food box
    gas & electric box
    shopping box
    cloth bags x2
    2.5kw inverter/charger
    camp chairs x2
    sleeping bags
    pillows
    toiletries
    jackets & fleeces
    No1 potpie pot
    Last edited by Danman67; 2017/07/26 at 08:00 AM.
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    Dan just my thoughts. You are not venturing into terribly isolated areas, there will be other people about and you will be able to resupply. We all tend to overload and this is more of a risk than the routes you have chosen.

    You refer to boxes in a generic fashion; food, kitchen, beverage etc. These need to be as compact as possible and only carry the must-haves. Looking at your route the longest time period without having to drive out of your way for supplies will be your 7 days at Djara/Mucheni, although you could easily take the short detours to Katima or Kasane if you run out of essentials. Be strict on the amount of supplies you carry.

    For the rest have a look at my comments in red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danman67 View Post
    Our Revised packing list
    Have done a packing trial and all fits Ok and vehicle does not look or feel unbalanced.

    Just undecided on a second spare.
    Unnecessary weight, you can have tyres repaired. Rather carry a tube if you feel you must. One spare is enough for most.
    40lt jerry cans should be adequate between stops with a range of 700 to 800 kms.

    Vehicle - 99 Prado 3lt diesel
    snorkel
    recovery points
    hi-lift jack points
    OME suspension with extra 300 at rear
    dual battery
    rear mount spare
    29meg radio.
    No point in carrying a radio if solo.

    Passenger seats
    40 lt footwell water tank
    cooler box
    picnic bag
    electronic bag, gps, cameras, torches, sat-phone, phones etc.
    laptop

    Roof rack - desert rack
    40 litre jerry cans at rear
    gas bottle at rear
    ground tent, reflector cover, 2 plate gas cooker at front
    aluminium table
    extra spare battery at rear. Not needed if both your batteries in decent nick and you leave with them fully charged.
    hi-lift on passenger side
    spade on drivers side
    double foam mattress

    luggage compartment false bottom
    tool kit & punter kit
    recovery kit
    tie downs
    compressor
    sand matts. Not needed.
    spares, oil & brake fluid
    first aid bag
    jumper cables
    puncture kit
    small axe, panger & saw. Just an axe, panga or saw, take your pick.

    luggage compartment
    40lt fridge
    kitchen box. These boxes must not be overloaded or large.
    beverage box
    general box
    food box
    gas & electric box
    shopping box
    cloth bags x2
    2.5kw inverter/charger
    camp chairs x2
    sleeping bags
    pillows
    toiletries
    jackets & fleeces
    No1 potpie pot. Don't take too many pots and pans, bare minimum.
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    Still no kitchen sink? All the advice you have been given is spot-on. Leave the 2nd spare a home. If you want to take a inner tube for an emergency remember to get the correct size (speak to your friendly dealer) and also that the inner tube valve stem must be long enough to extend through the aluminium rims- the standard inner tube does not fit.

    Just remember the braai grid! nothing worse than braaing on a dirty grid.

    Without a second means of charging your batteries, I assume that you want to take the 3rd battery as a back-up. This I believe will be unnecessary as the trip has sufficient distances and stop overs at camping grounds that will have 220V power to allow for charging the two batteries you have. However, take a small 220:12V charger for this purpose.

    With Dijara being closed what have you decided?

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