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    Hi Guys

    I've got a 2006 Nissan Sani 3.0 V6 with an ailing engine that has already been redone. I am currently getting 6.5-7km/l and was thinking of getting a conversion done to a Lexus V8 which I believe has more or less the same consumption but twice the power. Is this doable? what are the risks or should I rather go for a 4.0 V6? any comments or recommendations will be appreciated.

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    Do the Lexus but use the Lexus auto box. There was a guy in the East Rand that did the conversions. EDIT: sorry I see you are West Rand. Try Riaan in Brits: I can PM his contact info?

    Don't get the Nissan 4.0 V6.

    Alternatively, I'd get an imported VG33.
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    Instead of spending the money on the V8 consider fitting a VG30TT. It should be a straight fit with only electronics thats needed afterwards.
    Maybe PM Nizmozilla as he may know a thing or two about these engines.
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    Reenen should be along shortly......
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    RB25 NEO . R14000 plus diktator and off you go with 200kw standard with excellent fuel consumption at lower revs.
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    RB25 in a Courier

    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...41#post2913841

    With the Sani maybe you would have to cut the firewall like in the above thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by staalwol View Post
    With the Sani maybe you would have to cut the firewall like in the above thread.
    That's just silly.
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    Maybe it will fit hehe. I saw a L28 fitted in a Hardbody without cutting, so a RB25 NEO could fit.
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    Do the twin turbo vg30. 205kw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Do the twin turbo vg30. 205kw
    isn't it too wide?
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    Mag dalk wees
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    I own 2 vg60 Hardbody 4x4`s. Had a quick look under the bonnet. The vg30 is a tight fit and you battle to work on exhaust manifolds. Driver side manifold about 20mm from steering rod.

    Have a Lykshuis (Lexus) v8 on the stand and a vg30 on the floor.

    Both measurements taken not to the millimeter but a good indication. Measurements excludes fans.

    Lykshuis V8 L 710 X W 700

    vg30 L 550 X W 520.

    Every conversion is possible depending on the mods you are prepare to make.

    Ford 302 hard to beat with compactness L 700 X W 480
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    I own 2 vg60 Hardbody 4x4`s. Had a quick look under the bonnet. The vg30 is a tight fit and you battle to work on exhaust manifolds. Driver side manifold about 20mm from steering rod.

    Have a Lykshuis (Lexus) v8 on the stand and a vg30 on the floor.

    Both measurements taken not to the millimeter but a good indication. Measurements excludes fans.

    Lykshuis V8 L 710 X W 700

    vg30 L 550 X W 520.

    Every conversion is possible depending on the mods you are prepare to make.

    Ford 302 hard to beat with compactness L 700 X W 480
    That's why I think an imported VG33 will do the job just fine.
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    i am assumin you have a 3.0l v6(VG30) in a 1996 nissan sani (not a 2006) 2x4 or 4x4? . there are many options here for engines. We have done the Rb25det in a 1997 hardbody LWB and there was no need to cut just a little massaging of the firewall to get it in and fitting nicely yes if you need to get you big claws behind the motor it might be advisable to cut the fire wall but lets be realistic its allot of work involved.
    upi will need a box or bellhousing or adaptor plate.

    never done a lexus but seen 1 or 2 done very nicely and by the looks of it they fit fine aagin no need to cut. if you buying the motor and box and u have a 2x4 its not that difficult , spittronix makes a plug and play managment and loom that will make it easy for motro and box. If you want a manual box theres plent of 21R boxes and bellhousings but id go for the hilux D4D box much stronger , ueevn use the std clutch and slave cylinder.from the d4d box.and the clutch is soft and easy like the hilux factory clutch .

    I was planning on dropping in a VG30DETT (needs a rebuild) but then i got hold of a VQ (like the 350z) wich is turbo charged already.yes its wide yes its big but smaller than than the lexus V8. the 300zx ill rebuild when i have time and money. the Vg30dett you can use the vg30box in your sani ,i havent chaked if the VQ can use this box ,im told it wont work.

    the import Vg33 i have never used either. i did own the LWB 3.3 wich to me was a bit sluggish and not as nice as the VG30 i was use to ,granted most of the vg30s i had was modifiedin different forms . what i do know about the local VG33 is soem of the parts are different than the VG30, like flywheel, starter , bigger exhast studs, slightly different intakemani etc. if id go down this route id just change the maniflod, distributor ,intake flywheel from the VG30 on the vg33 to make things easier. but again not too sure about import vg33 so i might be wrong.
    atleast this way you are basically keeping everything and just getting new heads and block wich is what you wanted .

    L28 will also fit seen plenty of those but then you might aswell go for a RB25 or Rb25DET

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    I sold my 3.3 Hardbody last year. The 3.3 is a very nice engine but it feels like running out of breath past 5000rpm.

    Problem with 4X4 Hardbodies is the front diff. It is a battle to fit the VG30 due to its awkward sump.

    But then I know of a Hardbody with an Infinity V8. Fitting that had the whole front section redesigned.

    As said you can fit any engine prepared how far you want to take the modification.

    The very reason why I love Yank v8`s. You can have a 7.0l Small Block squeezed into very limited space. Nothing can beat
    a proper v8 with low down grunt.
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    I would go for a VG30ET motor out of the Nissan 300zx Z31, the gearbox will fit straight and the mounting might also fit, most of the current VG30 will fit 100% thus the VG you take out can be kept for spares, the only difference is the compression because it is now turbo and not N/A. The turbo is also on the passenger side with the manifold going behind the head to the turbo, that should save space around the steering shaft.

    If my engine dies, that is what I am going to put in. With Mr Turbo management, big exhaust, aftermarket FPR and upgraded pump, 1 bar boost and 370cc injectors I made 350HP and almost 500nm's on the wheels with the standard turbo. Obviously you will have to look at the turbo as you need power earlier in the rev range(if you go heavy in 4x4ing), the 1984 models had a big exhaust housing, the later generations had the smaller housings that will bring power earlier in the rev range.

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    [QUOTE=Cliff Watson;3567482]Hi Guys

    Thank you or all the responses. Wow, you guys can get very technical for this office Johnny. Sorry, it is a 1996 and a 4X4. To save costs I would like to keep the gearbox and 4X4 system. I am not too interested in ###### performance for racing, just nice torque, simple and cheap to modify, maintain and not too heavy on the juice.

    I see you guys do not mention suppliers so assume it is not allowed. How do I get such info.
    Thx

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    [QUOTE=Cliff Watson;3573366]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Watson View Post
    Hi Guys

    Thank you or all the responses. Wow, you guys can get very technical for this office Johnny. Sorry, it is a 1996 and a 4X4. To save costs I would like to keep the gearbox and 4X4 system. I am not too interested in ###### performance for racing, just nice torque, simple and cheap to modify, maintain and not too heavy on the juice.
    Then get the TD27 engine and gearbox and transfer case from a 4x4 TD27 Hardbody. Should be easy to fit as this was a factory option on the Mk3 Sani 4x4.

    If you can only get the gearbox and T-case for the TD27, that's fine as well. Import engines are available.

    BFreeSani drives a Mk3 4x4 TD27 Sani and I used to have a 95 4x4 Hardbody and a 98 4x2 Sani both with that engine.

    Reenen can then tell you how to get 100kW out of it.........
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