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    Default Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Hi Guys.

    I'm so furious!!

    My 2011 Prado D4D with 170 000km, bombed out the other day, my wife was driving and heard a funny noise and experienced loss of power but carried on driving slowly to her parents house in Randfontein, probably frove like that for 25 km, there were no warnings, nothing!!!

    So my brother in law takes it to Randfontein Toyota, they says its definitely injectors, R25k to replace, fine booked it in, they replaced the injectors but its still smoking and and doesnt have power, they gave me an estimate of another R80 flippen Grand EXTRA, but sounds like worst case scenario with replacing some short block!!

    Anyone else experienced something similar and can it really cost so much? Any advice on what I need to ask or do would be appreciated!!

    I'm so irritated as I was waiting for the New shape to come out to then trade in and I believe its about 5 months away!!!

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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Gouveia View Post
    Hi Guys.

    I'm so furious!!

    My 2011 Prado D4D with 170 000km, bombed out the other day, my wife was driving and heard a funny noise and experienced loss of power but carried on driving slowly to her parents house in Randfontein, probably frove like that for 25 km, there were no warnings, nothing!!!

    So my brother in law takes it to Randfontein Toyota, they says its definitely injectors, R25k to replace, fine booked it in, they replaced the injectors but its still smoking and and doesnt have power, they gave me an estimate of another R80 flippen Grand EXTRA, but sounds like worst case scenario with replacing some short block!!

    Anyone else experienced something similar and can it really cost so much? Any advice on what I need to ask or do would be appreciated!!

    I'm so irritated as I was waiting for the New shape to come out to then trade in and I believe its about 5 months away!!!

    Thanx
    Eina, R80k is D3 repair territory!! There is a thread or two already on this issue, you are lucky, one of my contractors only got to something like 30k with his 2015 Hilux when a piston melted - one injector was seriously out of spec!!
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    This is unfortunately not unique to you car. The Euro4 spec D4D engines have light(er) weight pistons. There are quite a few of those failures reported recently.

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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Im sorry to hear about this, a close friend had the same happen to him at 170k km , the new motor was over 100k replaced by Toyota. Fortunately his was under warranty
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Gouveia, do you currently have or has the vehicle ever previously had a performance chip installed?

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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Sorry to hear about your engine. See attached, maybe just maybe they fix it for you.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Thanx for the responses and help.

    Yes it does have a chip from when I got it with 22000km, had chips on my other hiluxes, one I sold to my father-in-law and still going strong on the farm with almost 300000km and the other to a client which is on 140000km also no issues!
    As you can see with the bulletin above, they have "inferior" injectors and when they fail they over-fuel which in turn could possibly create a cavity in the piston, its a mechanical issue, surely Toyota should have done a recall on these injectors!! I dont think is has to do with the chip, especially due to the bulletin

    Anyway it now has new injectors but idles very rough, havent driven it, a rollback is picking it up at the moment from Randfontein and taking it to a mechanic I was referred to who specializes in injectors and pistons, so lets hold thumbs
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Does this injector and piston problem also occur in D4D Fortuners?


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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffth View Post
    Does this injector and piston problem also occur in D4D Fortuners?


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    My friend had exactly the same issue a few years ago with his Fortuner, it was probably a 2008 model
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffth View Post
    Does this injector and piston problem also occur in D4D Fortuners?

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    Yes and no. Read from post#83
    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...s-or-not/page5

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    Thanks for the info. a bit of an eye opener.

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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Jy het nie dalk naby Caledon verbygery nie? Volgens JacoE moet dit iets in Caledon se lug wees wat die pistons laat kraak, want dit gebeur nerens elders...
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Laas wat ek gehoor het herstel Toyota dit as voertuig vol diensgeskiedenis by toyota het, onder 7 jaar oud is, en minder as 220 000km op het, en nooit gechip was.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Laas wat ek gehoor het herstel Toyota dit as voertuig vol diensgeskiedenis by toyota het, onder 7 jaar oud is, en minder as 220 000km op het, en nooit gechip was.
    My service manager said the same except for the 7 years and 220 000km.

    He especially laid emphasis on your last 3 words and said that each Prado they had seen at their dealership that had the piston problem was chipped.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Nee, chip maak dit erger. Maar ongechipte d4d's doen dit ook.

    Vanaf my buurman dit oorgekom het begin laasjaar, het ek noggal baie navraag gedoen. En redelik baie gevalle gekry. Met of sonder chips, in prado, hilux en fortuner.

    Wat my die meeste bly verbaas is die aanvalligheid van sommige toyota eienaars wat dit ontken as mens dit noem.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Ek eet nogal baie chips. Gaan my tata nou ook sy pistons blaas?
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Caledon se lug beinvloed meer as net pistons... So terwyl jy nou weer wil slim wees vanmore, wys sommer waar ek Caledon se lug blameer het...

    OP, jy is in verkeerde afdeling. Jy moet hierdie onder die Nissan afdeling post, daar is nice experts op toyota aangeleenthede wat jou met graagte sal uithelp.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by JacoE View Post
    Caledon se lug beinvloed meer as net pistons... So terwyl jy nou weer wil slim wees vanmore, wys sommer waar ek Caledon se lug blameer het...

    OP, jy is in verkeerde afdeling. Jy moet hierdie onder die Nissan afdeling post, daar is nice experts op toyota aangeleenthede wat jou met graagte sal uithelp.
    Verstaan ek reg? Jy het nooit caledon se lug blameer nie......?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Verstaan ek reg? Jy het nooit caledon se lug blameer nie......?
    Ek vra dat jy wys waar ek het. Blykbaar is my geheue so swak soos toyotas.

    Maar jy het dalk 'n punt beet, weereens jy weet, jy is mos altyd reg en alwetend, want dit lyk of die lugdruk by Bloem se hoogte bo seespieŽl wel 'n invloed het.
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    Default Re: Prado 150 Diesel Injector & Piston Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by JacoE View Post
    Ek vra dat jy wys waar ek het. Blykbaar is my geheue so swak soos toyotas.

    Maar jy het dalk 'n punt beet, weereens jy weet, jy is mos altyd reg en alwetend, want dit lyk of die lugdruk by Bloem se hoogte bo seespieŽl wel 'n invloed het.
    Dit mag interessant raak....

    Ek gee jou n tip... dit was ook in die maand van Mei...
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