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    Hi there

    I've been seeing Suzuki Jimnys and SJs with very narrow tyres online quite a bit, usually Japanese 4x4 videos.

    I have asked one source on Instagram about the size of the tyres and they said it was F16.R16. I stumbled across a tyre comparison chart that gave approximations of different tyre descriptions but can't seem to find it again.

    Could any perhaps help with this?

    Then the other question is why use this size tyre? Does it have better offroad capability, is it cheaper?

    Thanks for the help!
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    Default Re: Help to identify tyres on SJ

    Now, tyres is not an exact science. Narrow tyres are not really bad, they just look less sexy. They might even be better in mud than wider tyres. The big thing that most people don't know is that friction(grip) has to do with area and weight. But then you get sand that needs flotation. Maybe there is no sand in Japan!

    But Africa was conquered by Land Rovers with marie biscuit tyres.

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    Maxxis trepadors have simmilar patern

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    All trepadors. But it is not the same pattern i see

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    Default Re: Help to identify tyres on SJ

    Maybe geolanders

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    @Chris Stoffel that's right, remember seeing an old video posted here I think of Marie Biscuit Landies doing some 4x4 somewhere in England too good point on the sand too, they are always riding mud / dirt / rock....no sand!

    @johan65 those Geolanders looks like a match! And you even have an authentic Japanese next to the Rally Jimny
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    195R16's are quite popular on SJ's and Jimny's overseas. It's not a very popular size here. Rims are scarce and tyres even scarcer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimwel View Post
    @Chris Stoffel that's right, remember seeing an old video posted here I think of Marie Biscuit Landies doing some 4x4 somewhere in England too good point on the sand too, they are always riding mud / dirt / rock....no sand!

    @johan65 those Geolanders looks like a match! And you even have an authentic Japanese next to the Rally Jimny
    Not really a Jimny. Have a look at the front suspension!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    Not really a Jimny. Have a look at the front suspension!
    Hi Saxj

    Yes it seems it's not really an option for SA

    The article the picture was taken from by Johan65, said that had added the double wishbone suspension in order to create more travel in the suspension which is required for rallies. So I guess it's not a Jimny anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimwel View Post
    Hi Saxj

    Yes it seems it's not really an option for SA

    The article the picture was taken from by Johan65, said that had added the double wishbone suspension in order to create more travel in the suspension which is required for rallies. So I guess it's not a Jimny anymore
    The same way that a Dakar Toyota is not 'n Toyota anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    Not really a Jimny. Have a look at the front suspension!
    It was a jimny at a stage that has been changed for racing
    http://extreme4x4.eu/suzuki-jimny-evolution-hanawa/
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    Default Re: Help to identify tyres on SJ

    Japan terrain, as mentioned, is different to SA and is mostly rocks, mud, dirt terrain and not sand like what we have here. They love their 16" tires and as a result lots of aftermarket wheel options because of that. They also keep the standard engine, so don't want too wife of a wheel because of power loss, but still want the added benefit of ground clearance with bigger tires, so they use the skinnies.

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    The best tyres for a Zook are tall and skinny. Wide tyres have unnecessary rolling resistance which kills power. With tall skinny wheels you get a lot more clearance without sacrificing power loss. The only downside is less tyre floating on sand.

    Personally not a fan of their looks but they are quite practical

    Dunlop & Good Year have a few skinny tyre options available in SA
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    You can also get 185/85R16 Nankang FT9 mud terrain. Skinny with tall sidewalls, but then you'll need the narrow 16 inch rims as well
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    I think the tyre thing nowadays is more of an image thing than anything else. My HiLux was stock with narrow cross ply tyres on steel rims, with a ring to make tyre removal and fixing punctures easier. We travelled from Kosi to St. lucia in a heavy vehicle with all the camping kit for four people for a month in and on it. We deflated the tyres and we did not get stuck once. In the sand behind the dunes, around Lake Sibaya and these places we were exposed to sticks and thorns, no problems. Up and over Lesotho every year, no problems. Zimbabwe south to north, east to west, no problems. Namibia up and down, from Ngoma to the mouth of the Kunene, Van Zyls, every other dirt road in every desert, not a problem. Changed to Firestone Town and Countries for the "grip"! . Never a problem. So why the big, wide, aggressive tyres? A set of Town and Countries cost less than a single BFG! I think the tyre companies convinced us through good advertising that you cannot go on any road without 33 inch tyres that are 12 inches wide and have knobbies as big as apples and super grip outside profiles. And we are willing to pay R4,500 for one! Ridicilous!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam16 View Post
    I think the tyre thing nowadays is more of an image thing than anything else. Ridiculous!!
    Fully agree with you Sam. Saw a Toyota HiLux with 22" wheels, something like rubber band profile tyres on. Looks good, but certainly not for doing what such a vehicle is capable of doing. I also heard that rims in those sizes are NOT suitable for bakkies, trucks and the like as the loads on the rims will be too much to handle. But, as you correctly said - it is the IMAGE that counts. Agreed - absolutely ridiculous.
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