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    Default Re: Jeep crank no start - crd 2.8 - no fuel

    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fab View Post
    Haha your last comment made me laugh

    R16k to repair!?! That's a bit steep.
    For my 2.5 the injectors from Jeep were R5.5k if I remember correctly. Maybe phone another dealer to see if they don't have a better price. Even if you want to try PMB, I can go collect and ship them to you if needs be.

    In the meanwhile let me get that guy's details for you.

    edit: I'm sending you a PM with the details of the diesel guy in PMB who sent my injectors to Durban for recon, he should also be able to get you a price on new units.

    Thanks for that, contacted him, taking my injectors there now, he says absolute worst case will be 10k to repair all 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4dg3R View Post
    Thanks for that, contacted him, taking my injectors there now, he says absolute worst case will be 10k to repair all 4
    I'm glad to hear, and it shows that the other guys you approached were pulling the piss...
    Now let's hope your Jeep will be all sorted! Keep us posted

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    Yep keep us posted been a long uphill this one, people have meesed you about .

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    hey all back again, had those injectors repaired, took them to the mechanic, he installed them, aaaaand nope still no start. he just phoned me to tell me he's done wasting his time on the car. he refuses to work on it anymore. i owe him R1600 for the work he's done (what bloody work!? taking my running jeep and breaking it?) now he says i need to come and collect it and tow it to his buddy in pinetown (the one that quoted me 16k to repair the injectors) any recommendations on diesel specialists in the kzn south coast? cause i really don't wanna take the car to a buddy just to be ripped off

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    Referring to your post #66 last paragraph where you state that with the fuel return line disconnected, then she did run, is that not an indication that the injectors were okay? Then I was under the impression that you have to calibrate the injectors on the engine after replacement. Maybe I'm wrong. Leon.

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    Default Re: Jeep crank no start - crd 2.8 - no fuel

    Is there a non return valve in the return line and, does it face the right way?
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    i have absolutely no idea, you don't have a picture of this perhaps? i will be getting the jeep back on monday and will go have a look.

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    well asked the mechanic where the return valve is, he says he has no idea. great.

    found a diesel specialist willing to work on the jeep (apparently the mechanic in scottburgh *phoned* 6 places and nobody wanted to work on the car) and they are having a look at it now, will keep updated as this progresses.

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    Sounds like a nightmare please update been following this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4dg3R View Post
    hi all, new to the forums, and i have quite a good time reading all the posts.

    now i bought a 2004 jeep cherokee from an auction at a decent price with 164000 km's on her. i started her and drove home from the auction house +- 100km. around about 50km into the journey she started hissing a bit, not too sure what this was at the time as i could only hear it when the windows were down. drove all the way home and when i got to my driveway the car was hissing really bad, like a compression leak somewhere. anyways got her into the driveway, and had a look, she was blowing compression next to the nr1 injector, looked around a bit and saw that the o-rings can fail. so i took out the injector after a bit of swearing and saw that the o-ring was missing, but so was the copper washer at the bottom of the injector. ordered a new fuel return line (cause i'm an idiot and broke a plastic clip when removing it) as well as the rubber o-ring and new washer. installed these and we were off. jeep running, but no real power on pull away until turbo starts boosting, this being my first jeep and diesel i wasn't sure if that's normal (no power what-so-ever in first, you press fuel and nothing, nothing, nothing, then suddenly boost for days). drove the jeep for 2 days then at stop streets the jeep would start dying on me, after a few cranks she would go again, but this kept on happening, and i heard the compression hiss again, this time from nr 2. decided bugger this and ordered 4 new o-rings and copper washers for all 4 of them. took me 5 days to remove the injectors with them being tight as all hell, and all the o-rings were shot, with no copper washers on 2 and 3. 4's copper was there though. i replaced it all and somehow managed to lose the retaining clamp for nr 4 (not sure how) ordered a second hand one from a scrap yard as for some reason my nr4 injector isn't the same as the others. (never noticed this till i pulled it out and it had a different part number, anyways jeep couldn't get me one and wanted me to replace the injector at a cost of R10000 ) get the new clamp and installed it onto nr4. tried to start her, nothing, she just cranks and cranks. cracked nr4 to try and bleed it nothing, no fuel. (i now on the libertys you have the hand pump and bleed valve but on mine there is no such thing) i took off the fuel filter and dumped the water/fuel from the bottom, replaced the filter with a new one, still no start, took off the incoming lines, and tried to start, nothing, no fuel whatsoever comes through the inlet fuel line from the pump, i can't hear the pump starting but i never could since day one. i tried swapping some replays but it still wont start. i took off the cam sensor as weel to clean as well as the map sensor. reinstalled , but still nada. any advice before i go to drop the entire fuel tank?

    p.s sorry for the long post, just wanted you to get an idea of whats been done.
    pps - i have also replaced the battery just in case.

    try fuel pressure pump. mine was faulty. had it replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander76 View Post
    try fuel pressure pump. mine was faulty. had it replaced.

    car is still in by mechanic, they found a faulty fuel line from the tank, and are replacing that, they have managed to get her started somehow but the car was losing pressure, if this is not the case we will be looking into the pump, thanks.

    what did that pump cost you to replace?

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    Will keep fingers crossed it is the fuel pipe b4dg3R, it has been a nightmare for you

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    b4dg4r any news on this, was it a fuel pipe ?

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    hey all, she's finally back, and running like a beast.
    Bill was another 10k but at least this time the bloody thing is right.

    So if anyone needs jeep repairs done right in kzn, go to macs electrodiesel in pinetown - brilliant service and the only place that actually communicates with a client. (bonus is walking in and seeing lots of jeeps being worked on + bosch specialist)

    they replaced the diesel filter holder with a new mopar unit, and they fixed a bolt that was previously broken, but the main issue has all along been something small.
    The fuel comes from the fuel filter into the high-pressure metal pipes, now there where the rubber and metal pipe joins, was a leak. thats it, they replaced that coupling and a new pipe to the filter, and boom, jeep starts and runs.

    Now for some reason the previous mechanic took out my fuel tank, and never replaced the fuel filler pipe to the tank, so now this needs to be fixed, but other than that, everything on this jeep is 100%

    Thanks for all the help guys!
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    "The fuel comes from the fuel filter into the high-pressure metal pipes, now there where the rubber and metal pipe joins, was a leak. thats it, they replaced that coupling and a new pipe to the filter, and boom, jeep starts and runs."

    now one wonders about the previous mechanic who wanted new injectors and a new ECU........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    "now one wonders about the previous mechanic who wanted new injectors and a new ECU........
    exactly my point, nobody on south coast seems to know what the hell they're doing. i can guarantee you they will never see me again. for anything

    not to sound moany, but yeah i am, they cost me a ton of cash that might not have been needed if they knew what they were talking about, and the fact that they left my fuel filler pipe to the tank off says quite a lot.

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    Main thing is its is fixed, hope you can now enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by meh View Post
    Main thing is its is fixed, hope you can now enjoy it


    so jeep is broken again.....

    this time apparently the motor has gone, any recommendations? as a lexus motor + box + ecu + loom would work me out 14k.

    ooor i can just sell the bloody thing... anybody interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b4dg3R View Post
    so jeep is broken again.....

    this time apparently the motor has gone, any recommendations? as a lexus motor + box + ecu + loom would work me out 14k.

    ooor i can just sell the bloody thing... anybody interested?
    I was wondering if that would happen. Sorry to hear.

    Don't do Lexus, there is NOBODY in KZN that knows how to put those in.

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    Or see the last post in this thread and ship your Jeep up to Pretoria:

    http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...eriences/page2
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