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    Question Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    I am planning on (or should rather say "want to") buying a 2010 Discovery 4 HSE 115000km for approx R390k, yet the Evoque SI4 2012 model with about 80000km for R400k also looks enticing.
    My shoulder angel is constantly telling me I am being irresponsible for buying such an expensive and old car and should rather look towards buying some like a new frugal Hyundai i20 or Polo diesel. My shoulder devil, on the other hand, is somehow very close to convincing me that it is a good idea.

    What may help me make my decision is answers to the following questions:
    • With regular services, how old and for how many km can I expect the Disco 4 to go before I can expect problems?
    • What is the average service intervals?
    • What is the average cost per service interval?
    • Is the price at least a moderately good deal?
    • What are the recommended alternatives?


    Any advice or comments (apart from debilitating criticism) welcome.


    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    The cranks can/will go on the D4 - very expensive. Plus they have to take the whole body off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    The cranks can/will go on the D4 - very expensive. Plus they have to take the whole body off.
    Which is cheaper, easier and more efficient, by a long long long long way, than trying to remove the motor or work on it in-situ.

    And I really mean that seriously, it just really is.

    Funny how a major technological advantage and breakthrough can be perceived by some as a disadvantage.

    Edit - my take would be. The main reason to buy a (insert brand name here) is that you CANT take the body off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Which is cheaper, easier and more efficient, by a long long long long way, than trying to remove the motor or work on it in-situ.

    And I really mean that seriously, it just really is.

    Funny how a major technological advantage and breakthrough can be perceived by some as a disadvantage.
    It's as if they designed it like this on purpose.

    Sheer brilliance

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    Default Re: Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    I wont go the Evoque route, and if i am absolutely forced it will have to be the diesel, that all personal choice.

    Disco 4's service intervals is 24000km.

    Some of them do snap cranks and its not a cheap fix. Ive also seen a lot of turbo's ceasing and exploding in the last while. Disco 4's are quite heavy on brakes cause they're so heavy.

    And then some of them do 300000km without a hitch

    Services can be expensive at the Stealers, rather take it to a good indy.

    And taking the body of to do a turbo is brilliant in my opinion. Once you've done turbo's on a TDV8 FFRR you'll appreciate the art of taking a body off
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    It's as if they designed it like this on purpose.

    Sheer brilliance
    Look, we have to be realistic here.

    Any vehicle designed on a Friday afternoon in a pub by a bunch of drunk warm beer swilling poms in Solihull on the back of a packet of cigarettes has to be brilliant.
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    Default Re: Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    & then they got lazy by sticking a French engine in it out of a 406.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    & then they got lazy by sticking a French engine in it out of a 406.
    Strangely enough. I am not sure I know any country making better engines than the frogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Strangely enough. I am not sure I know any country making better engines than the frogs.
    I'd have to agree with you. Although the Italians are pretty much on it too.

    Interestingly that engine does perfectly fine in the 407
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    Always a difficult question. But my theory is it is great to buy a 1bar car for 400k- but the repair bill will be that of a 1bar car... Thus if you can cover this do it, if not don't.
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    Appreciate all the feedback. Seems to come down the cost of servicing the vehicle.
    I am buying a 3year 50000km + 2 year warranty. Will that sway any opinion?
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    As, you do not mention diesel or petrol, but the LR D4 is most definitely not cheap to maintain. They are extremely complicated vehicles and superb vehicles to drive.

    Comments about body to be removed in certain cases:
    Car was designed that way, it is a matter of a number of bolts and electronic plugs to be disconnected, then entire body is lifted and chassis and engine are easily accessable. Surely this is easier than removing an engine from a vehicle.

    Only problem is one cannot do this a t home in the driveway, a proper hoist is required - not a job for backyard mechanics for sure.

    People commenting on this should go and have a looksee at a lifted body setup. No swinging in of engine, knocking parts together, no bashing, no rocking of engine to slip into gearbox etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by julius caesar View Post
    As, you do not mention diesel or petrol, but the LR D4 is most definitely not cheap to maintain. They are extremely complicated vehicles and superb vehicles to drive.

    Comments about body to be removed in certain cases:
    Car was designed that way, it is a matter of a number of bolts and electronic plugs to be disconnected, then entire body is lifted and chassis and engine are easily accessable. Surely this is easier than removing an engine from a vehicle.

    Only problem is one cannot do this a t home in the driveway, a proper hoist is required - not a job for backyard mechanics for sure.

    People commenting on this should go and have a looksee at a lifted body setup. No swinging in of engine, knocking parts together, no bashing, no rocking of engine to slip into gearbox etc
    Its a Diesel HSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdutoit View Post
    Its a Diesel HSE
    Seriously? That thing is only worth R190k in real terms. When you've considered the R150k repair bill for a crank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asdutoit View Post
    Its a Diesel HSE
    Go V8 rather... you know you want to.

    Less snapping of the crank and more chance of a longer life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglash View Post
    Go V8 rather... you know you want to.

    Less snapping of the crank and more chance of a longer life!
    And the fuel consumption figures aren't that much different either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    And the fuel consumption figures aren't that much different either.
    You're making my decision easier by the minute....
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglash View Post
    You're making my decision easier by the minute....
    Fiiled up die v8 just now, combined cycle but roughly 75% highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Fiiled up die v8 just now, combined cycle but roughly 75% highway.

    Km/liter
    And that's reasonable, right?

    PS: say it's so... just kidding. My mind is already made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglash View Post
    And that's reasonable, right?

    PS: say it's so... just kidding. My mind is already made up.
    I doubt the TDV6 is much better. probably 1km/L max
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