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    Default Re: Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    [QUOTE=bones;3526782]Always a difficult question. But my theory is it is great to buy a 1bar car for 400k- but the repair bill will be that of a 1bar car... Thus if you can cover this do it, if not don't.[/QUO
    For what it's worth , I have been driving discoveries since they first saw the light of day and have had the normal problems one has vehicles , I have had my D4 hse since 2011 and she is is running brilliantly , She is a diesel who is serviced by independent 4x4 has spent much of the time in Namibia and Botswana and the biggest hassle was tyres , now I am running on Cooper and not a hassle , great that many people are giving written guarantees of problems like cranks packing up but here is the question ...... why are so many of us driving then and why are we passionate about them ? The fact that you have to remove a body to have access to the power plant is really good , anyway it's the buyers choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaxon of Africa View Post
    For what it's worth , I have been driving discoveries since they first saw the light of day and have had the normal problems one has vehicles , I have had my D4 hse since 2011 and she is is running brilliantly , She is a diesel who is serviced by independent 4x4 has spent much of the time in Namibia and Botswana and the biggest hassle was tyres , now I am running on Cooper and not a hassle , great that many people are giving written guarantees of problems like cranks packing up but here is the question ...... why are so many of us driving then and why are we passionate about them ? The fact that you have to remove a body to have access to the power plant is really good , anyway it's the buyers choice
    The crank problem is known issue.

    Ignoring that is your own choice.

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    Just to elucidate my remark- I am not talking about D4's but any expensive car you buy cheap second hand.
    PS we also have a D4 which is going like a boeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I doubt the TDV6 is much better. probably 1km/L max
    Around town I get 9.1 km/l calculated from mileage and litres. The computer accuracy is generally within 10% of this.
    On the open road with a trailer and 3 canoes on the roof travelling at 140km/h set on the cruise control I get 12.2 km/l
    Into a headwind it drops to closer to 10 km/l.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMatt View Post

    I still want a V8
    Only real men drive V8s.

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    The SDV6 gets 10 to 11 km/l easily under normal driving conditions. Towing it gets about 7 km/l ..
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    Just a reminder here that Land rover seems to come to the party to all (most?) broken Discoveries that are less than 7 years with a full service history at the dealers.
    The incidences of broken cranks also seem to be quite a bit less than on the D3.
    Since the one you're looking at is a 2010, you'll be quickly out of that cover window from LR.
    An after market warranty will not cover all the repairs if the crank goes. Read the fine prints there.

    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Only real men drive V8s.

    I'd buy a Hemi Wrangler if they made one.
    If you consider the amount of money your going to loose trading in your current Wrangler, plus the largely over priced Hemi (if it ever was available), you might as well ditch your 3.6 V6 now and put a Hemi in it. Will be easier than the CRD to Hemi conversion that is on this forum (can't remember the member's name), but not easy nonetheless, we know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fab View Post
    If you consider the amount of money your going to loose trading in your current Wrangler, plus the largely over priced Hemi (if it ever was available), you might as well ditch your 3.6 V6 now and put a Hemi in it. Will be easier than the CRD to Hemi conversion that is on this forum (can't remember the member's name), but not easy nonetheless, we know it.
    I dare you! And I'll put a SFA on my KJ
    My wife would kill me. Rooi Djiep is her baby. Hence having to buy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMatt View Post
    Around town I get 9.1 km/l calculated from mileage and litres. The computer accuracy is generally within 10% of this.
    On the open road with a trailer and 3 canoes on the roof travelling at 140km/h set on the cruise control I get 12.2 km/l
    Into a headwind it drops to closer to 10 km/l.
    2011 D4 HSE SDV6

    I still want a V8
    So you get better mileage with 3 canoes and a trailer? But if into the wind it's worse, but still better than without any load?

    I'm so lost...

    Edit: with 3 canoes & trailer you are getting 8.1l/100km @ 140km/h? Into a headwind you get 10l/100km but town driving is 10.9l/100km?
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    Quote Originally Posted by douglash View Post
    So you get better mileage with 3 canoes and a trailer? But if into the wind it's worse, but still better than without any load?

    I'm so lost...

    Edit: with 3 canoes & trailer you are getting 8.1l/100km @ 140km/h? Into a headwind you get 10l/100km but town driving is 10.9l/100km?
    You edit has it. Around town where I live means a lot of traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMatt View Post
    You edit has it. Around town where I live means a lot of traffic
    Then you have the most frugal SDV6 on the planet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    My wife would kill me. Rooi Djiep is her baby. Hence having to buy one.
    And you don't want to get rid of both...?

    Quote Originally Posted by douglash View Post
    So you get better mileage with 3 canoes and a trailer? But if into the wind it's worse, but still better than without any load?

    I'm so lost...

    Edit: with 3 canoes & trailer you are getting 8.1l/100km @ 140km/h? Into a headwind you get 10l/100km but town driving is 10.9l/100km?
    He's talking km/l, you're talking l/100km. That's why you see it the other way around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fab View Post
    He's talking km/l, you're talking l/100km. That's why you see it the other way around
    I converted his km/l into l/km.

    8.1l/100km with 3 canoes and a trailer
    10l/100km into a headwind with 3 canoes and a trailer
    but
    10.9l/100km when driving around town (loaded or unloaded doesn't state)
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    Town driving with lots of stop-start will give the worst consumption, it makes sense to me. I'd like to know the open road consumption, unloaded, doing the legal speed, with a tail wind. Must be quite good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fab View Post
    Town driving with lots of stop-start will give the worst consumption, it makes sense to me. I'd like to know the open road consumption, unloaded, doing the legal speed, with a tail wind. Must be quite good?
    If driving with 3 canoes and a trailer gets 8l/100km then just imagine unloaded... more economical than Johan's old Priu(O)S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Fab View Post
    Town driving with lots of stop-start will give the worst consumption, it makes sense to me. I'd like to know the open road consumption, unloaded, doing the legal speed, with a tail wind. Must be quite good?
    A trip from joburg to pretoria with cruise control set at 110 km/h unloaded it can get between 6 and 7 L/100km in the diesel. I have seen it, was the one driving.
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    Wow, that's impressive, and a huge improvement from the D3 if I trust some of the member's Fuelly signatures!

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    Just a reminder here that Land rover seems to come to the party to all (most?) broken Discoveries that are less than 7 years with a full service history at the dealers.
    The incidences of broken cranks also seem to be quite a bit less than on the D3.
    Since the one you're looking at is a 2010, you'll be quickly out of that cover window from LR.
    An after market warranty will not cover all the repairs if the crank goes. Read the fine prints there.


    ForestFab

    Do you have substantial info in this regard?
    I need to get Goodwill from Land Rover because of a snapped crank.(2010 D4 HSE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suid-Wes View Post
    Just a reminder here that Land rover seems to come to the party to all (most?) broken Discoveries that are less than 7 years with a full service history at the dealers.
    The incidences of broken cranks also seem to be quite a bit less than on the D3.
    Since the one you're looking at is a 2010, you'll be quickly out of that cover window from LR.
    An after market warranty will not cover all the repairs if the crank goes. Read the fine prints there.


    ForestFab

    Do you have substantial info in this regard?
    I need to get Goodwill from Land Rover because of a snapped crank.(2010 D4 HSE)

    Regards
    Suid-Wes


    Not first hand, but all read here. Your best bet is to ask LR directly.
    There are now too many threads here about broken cranks, but I've most definitely read it a few times.

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    Default Re: Buying Advise: Discovery 4 2010, Evoque 2012 or anything else

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Which is cheaper, easier and more efficient, by a long long long long way, than trying to remove the motor or work on it in-situ.
    This is only true if you use a workshop familiar with this process. Some workshops calculate several days of labour to do this, and at the typical rates makes a big difference to the cost.

    So yes I agree with your statement it is definitely a much more efficient way of doing things, but it can also change the cost of a job dramatically.

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