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    Eks 'n nuwe 4x4 fan en is in die proses om te soek vir 'n 4x4. My vereistes is soos volg:

    • Lig op petrol (tussen 8-10km/l)
    • goedkoop om aan te werk
    • goeie 4x4 capabilities (stel nie belang in 4x4 roetes nie maar moet Mosambiek/Afrika toe kan gaan en relatiewe rowwe tereine kan hanteer)
    • prysklas R100k - R160k
    • Maklik hanteerbaar in dag tot dag verkeer. Ek ry +-2000km per maand
    • Goeie afwerking (Toekomstige vrou soek die luxuries)
    Ek kyk op die oomblik na 'n Nissan 2.5 4x4 X-Trail 2003 of 2004 model. Hoe is die voertuig se 4x4 capabilities. Sal later OMU insit om die ground clearance te verbeter.

    Is daar enige ander voorstelle van 4x4's (Pajero SWB, Prado SWB,) Ek is redelik skrikkerig vir "second hand" diesels juis oor die kans dat daar iets fout kan wees met die engin en my baie uit die sak gaan jaag om reg te maak.

    Enige raad sal waardeer word

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    Ek het die post gelees en gewonder wat om te antwoord wat vir jou betekenisvolle inligting sal wees, en dit is moeilik, want dalk onwetend deur jou, is van jou vrae baie vaag en te algemeen.

    Lig op Petrol. 8-10Km/l. As mens enigiets behalwe 'n pad kar koop, moet petrol gebruik nie 'n faktor wees nie, jy wil 8-10 kry en dan nog redelikke 4x4 vermoens he, jy kannie, of die een of die ander, anders gaan daar 'n kompromie wees na brandstof doeltreffend heid of 4x4 vermoens. Ongelukkig as jy afskeep op vermoeens, kan jy dalk jouself in 'n onaangenaame situasie vind, dat jy jou self verwens, en dink jy moes maar eerder iets anders gekoop het. Dink daar oor.

    Goed koop om aan te werk. Jy wil verkieslik nie aan hom werk nie, en ek kan jou se, as jy al die snaakse vieterjasies het wat die "moderne" voertuie het, vergeet maar. Die laaste 10 jaar se voetuie kan jy maar vergeet daarvan om self aan hulle te werk.

    Vermoens al bespreek.

    Die groot 4x4s is verbasend hoe goed hulle die verkeer hanteer, as dit wel 'n probleem is, kry 'n Tazz vir daaglikse verkeer.

    Looks, dit is ook 'n ander ding, lyk mooi maar gaan jou in die moeilikheid drop.

    Baie mense koop voertuie en dan ry hulle ooral met hulle en hulle is verbaas met die vermoens, maar kom die dag dat jy 'n klip of 'n ding net verkeerd vang en jy kraak of breek iets, dan gaan jy sit as jy 'n seldsame voetuig het. Die opsies wat jy vra is bietjie teenstrydig met mekaar... lees maar nog in die Forum and check wat se die eienaars van die verkilllende modelle, maak 'n goeie besluit, want 'n verkeerde besluit kan jou noggal duur te staan kom.

    Hoe duurder beteken ook nie hoe beter nie, Touareg as voorbeeld... en laastens.... Good Luck!!!
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    I have recently got that exact vehicle and quality seems good, but I have come across the following that may be important to you...

    1. the spare wheel sits in a well in the "boot" so a future drawer system is a problem.
    2. Roof racks only take about 100kg (Thule). Cost is R9900 for top of the range racks and aluminium full basket and about R3900 for racks and cheaper full basket. You may be able to get cheaper but not from Nissan and also my vehicle is the highline which has the roof spotlights which makes everything more expensive and they are (should) be deactivated as they are not legal in this country (in standard format).
    3. The tailgate lifts up, not a side opening, therefore it would be difficult/impossible to mount spare on the back. It would then have to go on the roof which takes up a lot of the 100kg payload and it might be a pain to get on/off and will increase drag and noise.

    It would seem that a trailer is in my future although I never wanted to go that route. Other than that the vehicle is a pleasure to drive and is rather economical @ about 11km/litre open road semi-loaded and about 8.5km/litre urban. Has nearly all luxuries that you could want, but check each vehicle as they vary in the specs as per original owners wants and needs.

    I paid R120 000 on the road with 98k on the clock and in very good condition. Currently I would not pay more than about R110 000 for the same... there are plenty to choose from so drive a hard bargain!!

    Remember, this vehicle is NOT a serious trial buster but is highly rated by many in the "softroader" category. I bought it because I needed a daily commute vehicle that somtimes goes to site or to the bush camping game drives etc.

    Hope this helps.
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    My broer het 'n 4x4 xtrail (3l) en ek kan vertel van sy ervaring. Pragtige gesinsvoertuig, baie spasie ag al die pluspunte, maar hy sal nie afrika toe ry sonder laestrek nie

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    My choice was dictated by engine size (economy), interior space and praticality (2 adults, 1 toddler and a baby).

    FOR ME this meant that a s/c or supercab was out and a twin cab a little impractical (but probably more of what I would have taken if not for the baby and 1 or 2 other reasons).

    Secondly the SWB vehicles just did not have enough space.

    Lastly engine size was important (2.5litre was my max) due to daily economy factor. I had just got rid of a 3.2 V6 and could not afford to replace with a large engine again.

    CATEGORY CHOICES: MAX BUDGET R130 000.
    Pajero DiD SWB - space and engine size a factor
    Pajero DiD LWB - engine size and price (but very tempted)
    Disco & Defender - Engine size / economy / build quality?
    Freelander -Pre 2004 model . Newer models - price factor.
    Rav4 - Price and interior space.
    Kia Sportage (new shape) - Price & unknown pedigree.

    For you other factors may come into play
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza1210 View Post
    My choice was dictated by engine size (economy), interior space and praticality (2 adults, 1 toddler and a baby).

    FOR ME this meant that a s/c or supercab was out and a twin cab a little impractical (but probably more of what I would have taken if not for the baby and 1 or 2 other reasons).

    Secondly the SWB vehicles just did not have enough space.

    Lastly engine size was important (2.5litre was my max) due to daily economy factor. I had just got rid of a 3.2 V6 and could not afford to replace with a large engine again.

    CATEGORY CHOICES: MAX BUDGET R130 000.
    Pajero DiD SWB - space and engine size a factor
    Pajero DiD LWB - engine size and price (but very tempted)
    Disco & Defender - Engine size / economy / build quality?
    Freelander -Pre 2004 model . Newer models - price factor.
    Rav4 - Price and interior space.
    Kia Sportage (new shape) - Price & unknown pedigree.
    Coming off from a V6, eish, anything will have been lighter, but putting a RAV 4 in the mix with Pajeros and disco/defender... If you get pleasure and happyness from your X-Trail, that is the most important. I must say, I have specifically noticed how many of these X-Trails there are on the road, so either they are highly underated, or someone is spreading viscous rumours...
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    My choices and therefore my mind swung daily from small and economical to "what the hell, expensive dream machines". Once I dicided that the xtrail was the way to go I then had to decided between all the models, the year, the mileage, etc, etc, etc.

    Believe me after looking for about 3 months and testing about 50 vehicles I know what price to expect for each model!!

    But you are right... putting the Rav4 with Disco/Defender/Paj is unfair. THEY CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO THE RAV4

    p.s. please, no rude replies!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza1210 View Post
    CATEGORY CHOICES: MAX BUDGET R130 000.
    Pajero DiD SWB - space and engine size a factor
    Pajero DiD LWB - engine size and price (but very tempted)
    Disco & Defender - Engine size / economy / build quality?
    Freelander -Pre 2004 model . Newer models - price factor.
    Rav4 - Price and interior space.
    Kia Sportage (new shape) - Price & unknown pedigree.
    Putting these vehicles on the same short list makes perfect sense - they all have 4 wheels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza1210 View Post
    ...the roof spotlights which makes everything more expensive and they are (should) be deactivated as they are not legal in this country (in standard format).
    Your Nissan dealership should be able to install a switch that only activates them only when your brights are on. That is legal.

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    Thanks vir al die raad veral aan gazza1210

    Ek het maar my soektog verbreed en kyk nou ma na dir pajero swb 2.8td or die 3.2did. Soos wat ek kan agterkom op hierdie forums is hulle ligter op petrol as die Prado.

    Sou Prado verkies het maar die ding suip erger as 'n student op 'n vrydag aand

    Weet iemand hoe is die petrolverbruik op die Prado 3.0kzte swb. Kan moontlik een kry

    Hoe betroubaar is die pajero enjins?

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    I did hear that the 2.8 engine had problems but I could be mistaken!
    (Mitsu owners please remain calm if I am mistaken/partially correct). I would prefer the Prado, purely on personal basis and the fact that Toyota spares are widely available in Southern Africa, BUT I think there is very little difference between the DiD and the Prado in my opinion (and it is not a very informed opinion either..).
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    I think there is very little difference between the DiD and the Prado in my opinion.
    If you are referring engines, and you are referring to the Prado KZ-TE and the Mitsu 3,2 Di-D, I can only assume that you have not driven both.

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    Had virtually zero experience with either, therefore the uninformed comment above. I was actually refering to the general / overall vehicles themselves... I was comparing 2 SIMILAR vehicles not a tank and a Putco bus if you know what I mean.
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    Ek was die trotse eienaar van die 2.5 4X4 vir 75K km en dit was een groot plesier. Sy het op sand buitengewoon goed presteer. Omdat sy nie 'n laetrek het nie en ook nie baie hoog is nie, het ek weggebly van berge. Grondpad was 'n droom om te ry. In die 75K het ek geen probleme met haar gehad nie. Ek mis haar soms - maar sodra ek in die PF inklim word ek getroos
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    I hate to see people unhappy, so out of the kindness of my heart I will do a straight swop... your pathfinder for my Xtrail (don't worry I won't make you pay anything into the deal).
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    Our X-trail is the diesel 2.2 version - 2004. We've been sneered at by rangers at Marakele who regarded the X-trail as a soft/play 4x4; but we have also been amazed at the ease with which our "play" 4x4 handled a serious 4x4 route in the Waterberg - we'd got a little bit lost and found ourselves on a route which we would never knowingly have tackled in the Xtrail.

    In Tuli we've tracked elephants, and dodged them, through very rough terrain - and it's been fine.

    Of course there's no denying that it is not up to everything. Just more capable than you'd expect.

    On that note - let me add this: on a recent shoot which required 4x4s, two vehicles broke down - both Toyotas. The Nissans just kept going...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza1210 View Post
    I hate to see people unhappy, so out of the kindness of my heart I will do a straight swop... your pathfinder for my Xtrail (don't worry I won't make you pay anything into the deal).
    HAUW - hoe bedoel die meneer dan nou??

    One thing about this forum's members - they're always willing to sacrifice if another member are in need. However, in this instance I will not make use of the offer thank you very much sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah J View Post
    Our X-trail is the diesel 2.2 version - 2004. We've been sneered at by rangers at Marakele who regarded the X-trail as a soft/play 4x4;
    Hi - I'm going to Marekele in March - from what I read the roads are fine but parts require 4x4 - were you able to do the 4x4 roads in Marekele with the x-trail, or does it require low-range in places?

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