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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdworld View Post
    Thanks, please share when done.

    I have had real lengthy (just over an hour) chat with Mike Swann from Nizani regarding the diff locks, very informative.
    Please share... what was the outcome of the chat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDalldorf View Post
    Please share... what was the outcome of the chat?
    I must reiterate that this was a long discussion that Mike will gladly repeat with a lot of technical reasons why, but in short Mike recommended a slip diff, specifically the Detroit Trutrac or Powertrax at the rear end. For the front it will be a 100% mechanical locker, the Assie locker used in conjunction with manual locking hubs. This will be his so called double barrel shotgun. All this made sense, well to me anyway.

    I am still busy trying to figure out what Mahindra did to the rear diff of the S10 SUV and how the traction system works. The data that I have dug out so far is unclear. Practically it behaves like an open diff, so I will go with that for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdworld View Post
    I must reiterate that this was a long discussion that Mike will gladly repeat with a lot of technical reasons why, but in short Mike recommended a slip diff, specifically the Detroit Trutrac or Powertrax at the rear end. For the front it will be a 100% mechanical locker, the Assie locker used in conjunction with manual locking hubs. This will be his so called double barrel shotgun. All this made sense, well to me anyway.

    I am still busy trying to figure out what Mahindra did to the rear diff of the S10 SUV and how the traction system works. The data that I have dug out so far is unclear. Practically it behaves like an open diff, so I will go with that for now.
    Mike is a very cool guy. Had a long chat with him when I was looking at fitting the locker in my Bolero.

    The cheapest and easiest locker to fit is the Lokka which for all practical purposes is an Aussie locker. After much homework I decided to put one in the rear of my vehicle. There are a few trade-offs when using this locker that you must be aware of if fitting it in the rear of a vehicle.

    Firstly, there will be some slight change in on-road behaviour. In my vehicle there is a very occasional "shimmy" at highway speeds. I must state this is a very slight movement you will feel through the steering and it doesn't upset the handling of the vehicle at all. Some people with SWB vehicles report a more pronounced "shimmy" but it really isn't an issue on a LWB vehicle.

    The locker makes a clicking sound when going around corners and can make an almighty bang noise at times. In the roughly two years I have had the locker in my vehicle it has only made the bang noise maybe a dozen times. The first time it happens you catch a real fright but it really isn't an issue. The clicking is only really noticeable when parking the vehicle and with the windows up you can barely hear it.

    The good points of this locker are as follows: It replaces the spider gears in your diff thus making the diff stronger. Unlike other lockers there are no switches, vacuum actuators, air pumps, wires, tubes etc to prevent its functioning should damage to any of these parts occur. It is always on whilst allowing slip between the wheels in normal road use(The clicking sound)

    On my vehicle it made a huge difference in off-road capability and ability to tackle obstacles at a much lower speed.

    Why I didn't put one in the front diff. If you ever plan on doing high speed travel in 4x4 mode then this is not a good choice for a front differential. It has very strong self-centering tendencies and will also dramatically increase your turning circle. In your particular case I would much rather opt for the limited slip differential at the front but that is just my opinion. There are many, many videos and reviews on the web to help you reach a decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdworld View Post
    Hi All,

    I have been a long time lurker on 4x4 community with a lot of good info received on all aspects of camping etc. This is my first post of my recent purchase.

    I have a lot planned i.e. suspension, diff locks and manual hubs documenting the whole process with videos showing before and after.
    If you guys can also recommend active clubs to join as I need to get out and make it dirty.
    Nice ride. Baviaanskloof, Tsitsikama and Outeniqua is calling your name. Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdworld View Post
    I must reiterate that this was a long discussion that Mike will gladly repeat with a lot of technical reasons why, but in short Mike recommended a slip diff, specifically the Detroit Trutrac or Powertrax at the rear end. For the front it will be a 100% mechanical locker, the Assie locker used in conjunction with manual locking hubs. This will be his so called double barrel shotgun. All this made sense, well to me anyway.

    I am still busy trying to figure out what Mahindra did to the rear diff of the S10 SUV and how the traction system works. The data that I have dug out so far is unclear. Practically it behaves like an open diff, so I will go with that for now.
    The guys in India are putting the MLD (Mechanical Locking Diff) by Eaton http://www.eaton.in/EatonIN/Products...als/PCT_329342 this is the exact one that is on the Scorpio Pick Up. Really don't know why it doesn't come standard, I think I would go with this option on the rear diff.

    Their is no mention of a traction control system as such on the Scorpio in the brochures, etc. Sometimes the way the wheels behave as if brakes are being applied seems like their is one, but I now it has EBD - Electronic Brake Distribution which is a safety feature

    Would be very keen to hear how an off road suspension lift of 40mm fares on the Scorpio

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    So I had the bumper fitted as well as the towbar, which is a sturdy piece of kit. The rock sliders should be ready next week or the week after, then I need to save up a little more before I can make any more changes.


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    Rock sliders installed at last. Next I guess I need to get some good AT tires and that some sort of suspension upgrade might help with all the additional steel that's getting lugged around.

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    Very nice looking vehicles guys
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    My camping setup. Pick-up tows much better now that the pipe between the intercooler and intake has been replaced

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernstcomplete View Post
    So I had the bumper fitted as well as the towbar, which is a sturdy piece of kit. The rock sliders should be ready next week or the week after, then I need to save up a little more before I can make any more changes.

    Hi ernstcomplete, do you experience a difference in performance and handling with the new bumpers and rock sliders fitted? Would you recommend upgrading suspension as well to compensate for additional weight?

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ID:	488097Top of Helderberg 4x4 trail. First 4x4 trail outing with new S10. Very happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghisallolite View Post
    Hi ernstcomplete, do you experience a difference in performance and handling with the new bumpers and rock sliders fitted? Would you recommend upgrading suspension as well to compensate for additional weight?
    It rides a bit harder with the additional weight, particularly in front. Not too bad, but noticable. It would definitely benefit from a suspension upgrade.

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ID:	488097Top of Helderberg 4x4 trail. First 4x4 trail outing with new S10. Very happy.
    Nice. Do you have any vids of your trip on Helderberg? How many obstacles did you have to skip?
    I am thinking of trading my Thar in next year for the S11 but I am a bit worried about the ground clearance and the fact that there is no mechanical diff lock like the Thar has.
    And those steps need to be replaced with rock sliders asap!
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    Ek het op die Mahindra commander jeep af gekom..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terencej View Post
    Nice. Do you have any vids of your trip on Helderberg? How many obstacles did you have to skip?
    I am thinking of trading my Thar in next year for the S11 but I am a bit worried about the ground clearance and the fact that there is no mechanical diff lock like the Thar has.
    And those steps need to be replaced with rock sliders asap!
    I have the s10 and clearance hasn't surprisingly enough been an issue for me (except the front bumper is a bit low) - the articulation has been a bit of a shortfall and yes those irritating side steps!

    I would be very keen to hear everyone elses experiences of their Scorpio s10/11 offroad. Please!

    Also Terence can you not adjust the torsion bars for improved clearance?
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    Saterdag by Groenkloof Natuur Reservaat. Trail was erger as wat ek verwag het. Lelike dongas. Die S10 het gesukkel met amper geen flex, en geen agter locker het nie veel gehelp nie. Clearance voor was ook probleem.


    Het side step gebuig en hoek van agter bumper gekraak ��
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    Better clearance and a locker would have helped.
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