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    Default New Member with Lots of Questions

    Howdy All,

    First post here. i'm a yank that splits my time between miami, USA and managua, nicaragua. purchased a 2016 Ranger 4x4 3.2 XL in nicaragua, built in the silverton plant. it's a rather weird beast as it's missing a lot of features i see on the XL in the SA market, and ford claims (on the ETIS site) that it has features that it does not, like auto-headlamps.

    i guess ford maximizes is profits by screwing us central american folks out of the goodies. the only dealer in the country is shyte! some lowlife scum stole my spare the other day, and the wankers at the dealer couldn't even give me a price for the new spare even after i gave them the VIN. not sure what the issue is, but it is absolutely par for the course in nicaragua. nice folks in general, but dumb as rocks.

    my ranger did not come with steering wheel audio controls even though the blokes over in an aussie forum claim they have never seen a ranger without said controls. one of my first big mods is going to be the sound system. i've purchased just about all the components. was wondering if any of you have ever removed the steering wheel covers. i'm wondering if the wiring for the controls is just sitting there waiting for me to buy the new parts, and voila! steering wheel controls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by termnalvee View Post
    Howdy All,

    First post here. i'm a yank that splits my time between miami, USA and managua, nicaragua. purchased a 2016 Ranger 4x4 3.2 XL in nicaragua, built in the silverton plant. it's a rather weird beast as it's missing a lot of features i see on the XL in the SA market, and ford claims (on the ETIS site) that it has features that it does not, like auto-headlamps.

    i guess ford maximizes is profits by screwing us central american folks out of the goodies. the only dealer in the country is shyte! some lowlife scum stole my spare the other day, and the wankers at the dealer couldn't even give me a price for the new spare even after i gave them the VIN. not sure what the issue is, but it is absolutely par for the course in nicaragua. nice folks in general, but dumb as rocks.

    my ranger did not come with steering wheel audio controls even though the blokes over in an aussie forum claim they have never seen a ranger without said controls. one of my first big mods is going to be the sound system. i've purchased just about all the components. was wondering if any of you have ever removed the steering wheel covers. i'm wondering if the wiring for the controls is just sitting there waiting for me to buy the new parts, and voila! steering wheel controls!
    Hi there. Welcome.

    The XL is a base model. Id does not have auto headlamps and steering controls.

    I have never seen a 3.2 XL, only 2.2 XL (I know they could exist, but I never saw one)

    The steering controls will not work even if you replace the steering wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pierre2013 View Post
    Hi there. Welcome.

    The XL is a base model. Id does not have auto headlamps and steering controls.

    I have never seen a 3.2 XL, only 2.2 XL (I know they could exist, but I never saw one)

    The steering controls will not work even if you replace the steering wheel.
    hi Pierre, thanks for the response. i've read and followed your posts with interest.

    regarding my vehicle, here is what is on the Ford ETIS site:

    Primary Features

    Build Date: 29.09.2015
    Vehicle Line: Ranger 2011-
    Cab Style: Double Cab (3/4 Door)
    Series: XL
    Engine: 3.2L Duratorq-TDCi (200PS) - Puma
    Transmission: 6 Speed Manual Transmission-MT82
    Drive: LHD 4WD (PTD)
    Axle Ratio: 3.55
    Emission: Light Duty Truck Stage I Rqmts
    Territory: (+)"NI"
    Paint: Moondust Silver (Metallic)
    Interior Colour: Ebony Interior
    Interior Fabric: Circuit Fabric

    Minor Features

    • With Underbody Protection
    • With 'B'Pillar Blackout Tape
    • With Rear Mudflaps
    • Less Front Door Sill Protection
    • Less Front Protection Bar
    • Accessory USB Unit W/IPod Function
    • Front Fender Gill - As Moulded
    • ID Plate - Gulf
    • With Front Mudflaps
    • Less Seat Temperature Control
    • Cab Back Panel - Unwoven
    • Less Battery Monitor System
    • Tailgate-Black Handle Centre Latch
    • With Tailgate Lock
    • Less Second Unit Body Covers
    • Styleside Box - STL Inner/Outer
    • Less Mesh Headboard 2nd Unit
    • Less Pickup Side Rails
    • Less Roll Bar
    • With Pick-Up Tie Hook - Inner
    • Less load Box Edge Protectors
    • Less Outside Tie Down Hooks
    • Less Load Box Bedliner
    • (-) Version Packages
    • Less Fleet Related Items
    • Silverton (S.Africa) Plant Build
    • Less Special Equipment Package
    • Less Convenience Group
    • Complete Vehicle
    • Ford Corporate Badge
    • Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
    • Less Special Value Packages
    • Less Exterior Appearance Pack
    • Less Functional Upgrade Pack
    • Marketing Level 1
    • Built-Up Vehicle
    • Less Hot Weather Group
    • Safety Pack 3
    • Less On-board Diagnostic System
    • Less Cooling Pack
    • With Safety Pack
    • Less VP Application Label
    • Less Smoke Compliance Label
    • Less Mirror Glass Script
    • Less Warning Display
    • Less Fire Extinguisher
    • Pwr Fr Window 1 Touch Up/Dwn-Driver
    • With Electric Rear Windows
    • Less Tinted Windows
    • Less E-Marked Glass
    • With Fixed Rear Window
    • Less Heated Windscreen
    • Less Heated Rear Window
    • With Accent Centre Panel
    • Less Wheel Arch Mouldings
    • With Glove Box Lid
    • Less Mid-Veh Overhead Console
    • With Mini Overhead Console
    • Console-With Double Lid
    • With TPO Console Material
    • Non Woven Carpet
    • Front Floor Carpet Mats
    • Less Rear Floor Mats
    • Sunvisor - Single Driver W/Strap
    • With Sunvisor Mirror - Passenger
    • With Black Interior Door Handles
    • With Cloth Door Trim Panel Insert
    • With Front Roof Grab Handle
    • With A Pillar Assist Handle
    • With Load Rest
    • Less Load Area Cover
    • Less Interior Noise Insulation Pack
    • With Black Grille
    • Less Active Grilleshutter
    • Less Roof Rack
    • Less Side Auxiliary Step
    • With Dipping Rear View Mirror
    • Dual Power Mirrors-Manual Fold Back
    • With Black Exterior Mirror
    • Less Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
    • Less Special Seat Covers
    • Less Rear Seat Centre Armrest
    • Rear Seat Anchor - Fixed
    • With Rear Center Head Restraint
    • With Side Curtain Airbag
    • Seat Belt Warning Driver Only
    • With 2nd Row Bench Seat - 3 Passngr
    • With Driver 2 Way Mnl. Seat Adjust
    • Front Tow Eye Recovery
    • Less Trailer Towing
    • Less Trailer Towing Hitch
    • Less Towing Pre-Pack
    • Less Rear Towing Hooks
    • 160 HP
    • Less Oil Pan Shield
    • Exterior Door Handle - Black
    • With Moulded Gearshift Knob
    • With Child Proof Safety Lock
    • Less Second Remote Ignition Key
    • With Central Locking System
    • With Door Entry Remote Control Unit
    • 433 MHZ High Power
    • With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
    • Regular Size Washer Tank
    • Washer Tank Level Warning Lamp
    • Less Tonneau Cover
    • 12 Year Corrosion Protection
    • Less Fr Bumper Ped Foam Protection
    • Front Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
    • With Plastic Rear Bumper-Black
    • Less Rear Bumper Under Run
    • Less Rear Bumper Sensor Device
    • Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
    • Beltminder-Driver + Passenger
    • Less Seat Belt Type
    • Retractable Rear Seat Belt-3Point
    • With Adjustable Front S.Belt Mounts
    • With Driver Air Bag
    • With Passenger Air Bag
    • With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
    • Seat Belt Pretensioners Drv/Pass
    • Seat Mounted Thorax SD A/Bag - ROW
    • Less Pass Seat Air Bag Disable Lamp
    • With E-Coated Steel Spare Wheel
    • Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
    • Less Spare Tyre Lock
    • 7.0 X 16" Alloy Wheel
    • P255/70R-16 BSW A-T
    • Continental Tyres
    • Non Locking Lug Nuts
    • Engine Cooling Fan - Viscous
    • Frame Fuel Filter-Standard
    • Standard Electric Starter Motor
    • Light Duty Truck Stage I Rqmts
    • With Standard Suspension
    • With Improved Attitude/Ride Height
    • Rear Axle Limited Slip Differential
    • Soft Feel Grip - Black Button
    • With Anti Lock Brakes And ESP+
    • Less Tracking System - FIA
    • Less Floor Mats-FIA
    • With High Back Front Seats
    • With Fresh Air Heater
    • With Manual Air Conditioning
    • Fuel Tank Guard
    • With Non Locking Fuel Cap
    • With Diesel Fuel Capability
    • With Power Steering(Fixed Ratio)
    • Basic Type Steering Wheel
    • Less Electronic Speed Limitation
    • Less Speed Control
    • Less Steering Wheel Audio Controls
    • Less Auxiliary Heater
    • Less Ice (Frost) Warning
    • With Electronic Instrumentation
    • Less Aux I/P Switch Housing
    • With KMH Speedometer
    • Less Heavy Truck Tachograph
    • Less Tachograph
    • Dual Note Electric Horn
    • Less Outside Temp Thermometer
    • Two Line Multi Function Display
    • Less Navigation System
    • Less Navigation Data
    • Less Emergency Assistance
    • Less Speed Audible Warning Device
    • Less Lane Keeping Aid
    • Less Speed Sign Recognition
    • Remt Alarm Sys-Volume L/BCP Siren
    • Less Secondary Security System
    • Less Front Parking Aid
    • Electrical Upgrade Package I
    • Heavy Duty Battery
    • Less Auxiliary Batteries
    • Less Power Convertor
    • Less A/V Jack
    • Less Bluetooth
    • Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
    • With ICE Feature Pack 11
    • Less Diversity Antenna
    • Basic Integrated Control Panel
    • With 4 Speakers
    • Less Tweeter Speaker
    • Less Microphone
    • Less Sync
    • Less Voice Activated Modules
    • Less Wiring Prep
    • Less Smokers Package
    • With Power Point Plug
    • Less Power Point Plug - Rear
    • Less Camera
    • Less Cargo Box Power Point Plug
    • Less Cool Box
    • Less Aero Pack
    • With Level 1 Headlamps
    • Less Daytime Running Lamps
    • With Side Repeat Flashers
    • Less Front Fog Lamps
    • With Base Lighting Pack
    • Headlamp Bezel - Normal
    • Less Interior Light Group
    • Less Glove Box Illumination
    • Less High Mounted Stop Lamp
    • Less Rear Fog Lamps
    • Less Headlamp Levelling
    • With Automatic Headlamp Control





    Obviously i know it has no steering wheel audio controls. but i'm almost willing to bet that if i took the cover off, i'd find the wiring there. i'd rather not mess with it though if i can confirm one way or another beforehand.
    Last edited by termnalvee; 2017/01/03 at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by termnalvee View Post
    hi Pierre, thanks for the response. i've read and followed your posts with interest.

    regarding my vehicle, here is what is on the Ford ETIS site:

    Primary Features
    Minor Features

    • With Underbody Protection
    • With 'B'Pillar Blackout Tape
    • With Rear Mudflaps
    • Less Front Door Sill Protection
    • Less Front Protection Bar
    • Accessory USB Unit W/IPod Function
    • Front Fender Gill - As Moulded
    • ID Plate - Gulf
    • With Front Mudflaps
    • Less Seat Temperature Control
    • Cab Back Panel - Unwoven
    • Less Battery Monitor System
    • Tailgate-Black Handle Centre Latch
    • With Tailgate Lock
    • Less Second Unit Body Covers
    • Styleside Box - STL Inner/Outer
    • Less Mesh Headboard 2nd Unit
    • Less Pickup Side Rails
    • Less Roll Bar
    • With Pick-Up Tie Hook - Inner
    • Less load Box Edge Protectors
    • Less Outside Tie Down Hooks
    • Less Load Box Bedliner
    • (-) Version Packages
    • Less Fleet Related Items
    • Silverton (S.Africa) Plant Build
    • Less Special Equipment Package
    • Less Convenience Group
    • Complete Vehicle
    • Ford Corporate Badge
    • Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
    • Less Special Value Packages
    • Less Exterior Appearance Pack
    • Less Functional Upgrade Pack
    • Marketing Level 1
    • Built-Up Vehicle
    • Less Hot Weather Group
    • Safety Pack 3
    • Less On-board Diagnostic System
    • Less Cooling Pack
    • With Safety Pack
    • Less VP Application Label
    • Less Smoke Compliance Label
    • Less Mirror Glass Script
    • Less Warning Display
    • Less Fire Extinguisher
    • Pwr Fr Window 1 Touch Up/Dwn-Driver
    • With Electric Rear Windows
    • Less Tinted Windows
    • Less E-Marked Glass
    • With Fixed Rear Window
    • Less Heated Windscreen
    • Less Heated Rear Window
    • With Accent Centre Panel
    • Less Wheel Arch Mouldings
    • With Glove Box Lid
    • Less Mid-Veh Overhead Console
    • With Mini Overhead Console
    • Console-With Double Lid
    • With TPO Console Material
    • Non Woven Carpet
    • Front Floor Carpet Mats
    • Less Rear Floor Mats
    • Sunvisor - Single Driver W/Strap
    • With Sunvisor Mirror - Passenger
    • With Black Interior Door Handles
    • With Cloth Door Trim Panel Insert
    • With Front Roof Grab Handle
    • With A Pillar Assist Handle
    • With Load Rest
    • Less Load Area Cover
    • Less Interior Noise Insulation Pack
    • With Black Grille
    • Less Active Grilleshutter
    • Less Roof Rack
    • Less Side Auxiliary Step
    • With Dipping Rear View Mirror
    • Dual Power Mirrors-Manual Fold Back
    • With Black Exterior Mirror
    • Less Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
    • Less Special Seat Covers
    • Less Rear Seat Centre Armrest
    • Rear Seat Anchor - Fixed
    • With Rear Center Head Restraint
    • With Side Curtain Airbag
    • Seat Belt Warning Driver Only
    • With 2nd Row Bench Seat - 3 Passngr
    • With Driver 2 Way Mnl. Seat Adjust
    • Front Tow Eye Recovery
    • Less Trailer Towing
    • Less Trailer Towing Hitch
    • Less Towing Pre-Pack
    • Less Rear Towing Hooks
    • 160 HP
    • Less Oil Pan Shield
    • Exterior Door Handle - Black
    • With Moulded Gearshift Knob
    • With Child Proof Safety Lock
    • Less Second Remote Ignition Key
    • With Central Locking System
    • With Door Entry Remote Control Unit
    • 433 MHZ High Power
    • With Variable Intermittent Windscreen Wiper
    • Regular Size Washer Tank
    • Washer Tank Level Warning Lamp
    • Less Tonneau Cover
    • 12 Year Corrosion Protection
    • Less Fr Bumper Ped Foam Protection
    • Front Bumper Body Coloured Plastic
    • With Plastic Rear Bumper-Black
    • Less Rear Bumper Under Run
    • Less Rear Bumper Sensor Device
    • Inflatable Knee Bolsters - Driver
    • Beltminder-Driver + Passenger
    • Less Seat Belt Type
    • Retractable Rear Seat Belt-3Point
    • With Adjustable Front S.Belt Mounts
    • With Driver Air Bag
    • With Passenger Air Bag
    • With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
    • Seat Belt Pretensioners Drv/Pass
    • Seat Mounted Thorax SD A/Bag - ROW
    • Less Pass Seat Air Bag Disable Lamp
    • With E-Coated Steel Spare Wheel
    • Less Tyre Pressure Sensors
    • Less Spare Tyre Lock
    • 7.0 X 16" Alloy Wheel
    • P255/70R-16 BSW A-T
    • Continental Tyres
    • Non Locking Lug Nuts
    • Engine Cooling Fan - Viscous
    • Frame Fuel Filter-Standard
    • Standard Electric Starter Motor
    • Light Duty Truck Stage I Rqmts
    • With Standard Suspension
    • With Improved Attitude/Ride Height
    • Rear Axle Limited Slip Differential
    • Soft Feel Grip - Black Button
    • With Anti Lock Brakes And ESP+
    • Less Tracking System - FIA
    • Less Floor Mats-FIA
    • With High Back Front Seats
    • With Fresh Air Heater
    • With Manual Air Conditioning
    • Fuel Tank Guard
    • With Non Locking Fuel Cap
    • With Diesel Fuel Capability
    • With Power Steering(Fixed Ratio)
    • Basic Type Steering Wheel
    • Less Electronic Speed Limitation
    • Less Speed Control
    • Less Steering Wheel Audio Controls
    • Less Auxiliary Heater
    • Less Ice (Frost) Warning
    • With Electronic Instrumentation
    • Less Aux I/P Switch Housing
    • With KMH Speedometer
    • Less Heavy Truck Tachograph
    • Less Tachograph
    • Dual Note Electric Horn
    • Less Outside Temp Thermometer
    • Two Line Multi Function Display
    • Less Navigation System
    • Less Navigation Data
    • Less Emergency Assistance
    • Less Speed Audible Warning Device
    • Less Lane Keeping Aid
    • Less Speed Sign Recognition
    • Remt Alarm Sys-Volume L/BCP Siren
    • Less Secondary Security System
    • Less Front Parking Aid
    • Electrical Upgrade Package I
    • Heavy Duty Battery
    • Less Auxiliary Batteries
    • Less Power Convertor
    • Less A/V Jack
    • Less Bluetooth
    • Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
    • With ICE Feature Pack 11
    • Less Diversity Antenna
    • Basic Integrated Control Panel
    • With 4 Speakers
    • Less Tweeter Speaker
    • Less Microphone
    • Less Sync
    • Less Voice Activated Modules
    • Less Wiring Prep
    • Less Smokers Package
    • With Power Point Plug
    • Less Power Point Plug - Rear
    • Less Camera
    • Less Cargo Box Power Point Plug
    • Less Cool Box
    • Less Aero Pack
    • With Level 1 Headlamps
    • Less Daytime Running Lamps
    • With Side Repeat Flashers
    • Less Front Fog Lamps
    • With Base Lighting Pack
    • Headlamp Bezel - Normal
    • Less Interior Light Group
    • Less Glove Box Illumination
    • Less High Mounted Stop Lamp
    • Less Rear Fog Lamps
    • Less Headlamp Levelling
    • With Automatic Headlamp Control





    Obviously i know it has no steering wheel audio controls. but i'm almost willing to bet that if i took the cover off, i'd find the wiring there. i'd rather not mess with it though if i can confirm one way or another beforehand.
    Flattered that you are following my posts.

    Ok, something, the steering controls and cruise control, everything goes back to the can bus. The buttons is switched through a resistor, and each value resistor has a function. This resistor switched circuit will connect through a clock spring (literally a copper ring, and brush).

    The base spec has * rings, one for the hooter, and then for the airbag. For the steering controls you need 2 more rings.

    This then gets connected to a box, that then connects to the canbus.

    So, you will need the

    buttons (that literally just screws in place)

    Rings (unfortunately, a new steering wheel and boss required)

    decode box (full harness)

    And then finally, it has to be enabled in the ecu.

    Yes, the radio is controlled by the ecu...

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    Default Re: New Member with Lots of Questions

    i'm assuming you have access to the parts catalog? i've got the workshop manual but have not seen any diagrams of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by termnalvee View Post
    i'm assuming you have access to the parts catalog? i've got the workshop manual but have not seen any diagrams of this
    I ha e the wire diagram and extended workshop manual, for the 2015. A lot of similarities toe the 2016 facelift.
    Last edited by pierre2013; 2017/01/03 at 02:42 PM.

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    Most interesting out of all of that is the 160hp.

    Cost to get the harness is just stupid. You also need to remember that many systems runs back to the main computer system that is set up for your car and malfunctions can happen. I wanted to do this and a friend advised me the best thing would be to buy a wrecked Ranger and take out all the electronics and rebuild them into mine. This way you can get all functions you could ever want.
    2013 Ford Ranger 3.2 Supercab 4x4

    PBE Duel battery system
    Ironman front bumper
    Ironman suspension 70mm lift
    Ironman Snorkel
    Ironman Rocksliders
    Custom built hunting rack/canopy
    Escape Gear seat covers
    Black Rhino Imperial Rims
    Maxxis Bighorn 764 265/70R17
    Stofpad Bashplate & gearbox plate
    CobraX spats
    Easyawn RTT
    Gerbers 83L Long Range Tank
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    Default Re: New Member with Lots of Questions

    Each market has very different wants. The factory will build it like the customer orders it. (Not the end customer, the customer in that country - in this case Ford of Nicaragua)

    Ford of Nicaragua specs their vehicles the way they think customers would like them,taking into account affordability issue of course...

    To get the steering wheel buttons to work, you have to tell the car it has the buttons - so a software change. I have no idea how to do that.
    Last edited by JJE; 2017/02/07 at 12:31 PM.

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