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    Default HELP - Land Cruiser over Patrol?

    Hi guys,

    I know this has been talked about a little bit on here but the info is a bit scattered and I dont always understand the Patrol insider lingo.

    I have been looking for a:

    80 series petrol

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    100 / 105 series Land Cruiser.

    Petrol for high KM's and Diesel if it has low kms.

    Im looking to spend less than 200,000R on it and actually have a couple vehicles id love to trade in for it if I could find at a dealership.
    I am not willing to purchase a cruiser that does not have trackable owners and a mostly full to full service history.

    This has made my search really difficult.

    I did see on some other threads that some guys were also recommending a Patrol but I couldnt tell if they were serious. So I thought I would ask.

    Is there a Patrol version out there that would be comparable to a 80/100/105 series cruiser? If so what are some things to look for when buying?

    Vehicle use:

    Daily driver plus overlanding and camping with family. Not too serious on the 4x4...will be mostly used in cape town daily and then in places like Namibia, Botswana, and SA's Parks. Will put a tent on top, fidge in back, load up the fam and go.

    Any help would be appreciated guys.

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    Default Re: HELP - Land Cruiser over Patrol?

    You'll get a newer, cleaner Patrol with lower km's for the same price as an equivalent Land Cruiser. I'd recommend a 4.8GRX
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylinefreak View Post
    You'll get a newer, cleaner Patrol with lower km's for the same price as an equivalent Land Cruiser. I'd recommend a 4.8GRX
    This may sound dumb...I understand cruiser talk but not so much the Patrol talk. is the 4.8 the engine size and does that mean it is a petrol? What does the GRX stand for?

    Just doing a quick search online I found "2005 Nissan - Patrol 3.0Di GRX which has done 230000 km" ASking 150,000 for it.

    Thoughts?

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    From my memory, you got the following Patrols in the current Y61 shape (1997 onwards) from older to newer versions:

    4.2 Diesel GL
    4.5 Petrol GL
    4.5 Petrol GRX
    3.0Di Turbodiesel GL
    3.0Di Turbodiesel GRX
    4.8 Petrol GL
    4.8 Petrol GRX

    GL is the basic models with black bumpers, cloth trim etc.
    GRX is the upmarket version with colour coded bumpers, leather, sun roof, etc etc
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    Even the Cruiser guys will admit that the Patrol has a stronger drivetrain. The early 3.0 tdi is best avoided but the 4800 petrol is an epic & unbreakable motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    Even the Cruiser guys will admit that the Patrol has a stronger drivetrain. The early 3.0 tdi is best avoided but the 4800 petrol is an epic & unbreakable motor.
    Niel...awesome getting a response from you!!!

    Im looking and turns out its hard to also find Patrols haha! But I would consider one with the right approval from the 4x4 community.

    Would a "2005 Nissan - Patrol 3.0Di GRX which has done 230000 km" ASking 150,000" Count as an "early" 3.0 tdi? Or would you think that this would be a decent vehicle to call and ask about.

    http://www.carfind.co.za/showroom.as...&carid=3619956

    I hope this link works on here.

    THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS...ESPECIALLY THE TOYOTA GUYS WHO ARE WILLING TO HELP! I figure I will get a more honest opinion from them than the nissan guys. haha.
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    I can't open the link but it appears to be a 3.0 diesel, which do have the same characteristics as a hand grenade.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to find a Patrol but have a look at what's available on the Patrol Forum.

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    I can't open the link but it appears to be a 3.0 diesel, which do have the same characteristics as a hand grenade.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to find a Patrol but have a look at what's available on the Patrol Forum.

    Edit: I wouldn't go near any diesel with 230k especially for over landing. Rather drive the 194 kW 4800 but don't look at the fuel gauge :-).
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    I can't open the link but it appears to be a 3.0 diesel, which do have the same characteristics as a hand grenade.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to find a Patrol but have a look at what's available on the Patrol Forum.
    It's mainly the older 3.0Di's that were grenading, I think someone mentioned pre-2004?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    Edit: I wouldn't go near any diesel with 230k especially for over landing. Rather drive the 194 kW 4800 but don't look at the fuel gauge :-).

    Thanks for the advice on this! I really do appreciate it!

    What if that diesel was single owner and full service history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    I can't open the link but it appears to be a 3.0 diesel, which do have the same characteristics as a hand grenade.

    It shouldn't be too difficult to find a Patrol but have a look at what's available on the Patrol Forum.

    Only the pre-2003 ZD30 3.0 diesels had issues.
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    Here you go. Try getting a cruiser for this type of money.

    http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-car...4e902e5cc0fa38
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    Quote Originally Posted by cladd83 View Post
    Thanks for the advice on this! I really do appreciate it!

    What if that diesel was single owner and full service history?
    take it

    But you're asking for Nissan advice in the Toyota section, and got a "learned" response from a Jeep owner...............
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    Default Re: HELP - Land Cruiser over Patrol?

    The OP stated that he wants to spend less than R200 000 and you guys recommend something that costs almost R400 000
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    take it

    But you're asking for Nissan advice in the Toyota section, and got a "learned" response from a Jeep owner...............
    What is a 'learned' response?

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    You guys are really helping me out with this good info. I do appreciate it.

    Niel I think you are the one with the Jeep -- thank you for taking the time to help me with your thoughts. I do appreciate it.

    Skyline - Thanks for your technical knowledge. I do appreciate it and its helping me understand a few things about the patrol lingo.

    Jelo - Thanks for the confidence boost in the 2005 3.0 D GRX. You are also correct...i am asking advice about a nissan on a toyota page. Crazy right! I am putting some faith in the 4x4 community that at the end of the day it isnt just about what we drive but that it is about helping each other to get out into the bush, love and take care of nature, and do it in a safe way (in a safe and good vehicle).

    NYS - hahahaha... I cant afford that, no matter what it is! 300k plus is a little (actually alot ) out of my price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cladd83 View Post

    What if that diesel was single owner and full service history?
    Nope, I still wouldn't go near one. Plus the 4800 sounds really, really good 8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    Here you go. Try getting a cruiser for this type of money.

    http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-car...4e902e5cc0fa38
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    Quote Originally Posted by cladd83 View Post

    NYS - hahahaha... I cant afford that, no matter what it is! 300k plus is a little (actually alot ) out of my price range.

    I know, I just wanted to illustrate what you can get in terms of value for money when buying a Patrol.
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