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    Default Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Hi all,

    Thinking of doing Sani Pass next weekend. Is it manageable in a 2x4 if it is dry?

    I believe its tarred to just past the border? But the actual pass is still dirt...

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    No..no its not

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbin View Post
    No..no its not
    Not dirt anymore? So doable in 4x2? 4x2 met difflock is mos dieselfde as 4x4... Beide trek teoreties in 2 wiele...
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Hi, it is very do-able in a 2x4 if dry. Seen a Ford Kuga with low profiles go up.... lots of noise from the undercarriage and it is an AWD though.

    Tae note though that there is a sign board prohibiting vehicles un-equipped with 4 wheel drive from going up the pass. I don't now how strongly this law is applied but I wouldn't take a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Not dirt anymore? So doable in 4x2? 4x2 met difflock is mos dieselfde as 4x4... Beide trek teoreties in 2 wiele...
    Dis nog dirt... die pas, van die hek af.. is nof grondpad.

    Die laaste 150m tot bo, is nie jou maat nie.... en kan net gedoen word met n 4x2 as jy weet wat jy doen. En.....

    Dis eintlik nog winter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbin View Post
    Dis nog dirt... die pas, van die hek af.. is nof grondpad.

    Die laaste 150m tot bo, is nie jou maat nie.... en kan net gedoen word met n 4x2 as jy weet wat jy doen. En.....

    Dis eintlik nog winter....
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty780925 View Post
    Hi, it is very do-able in a 2x4 if dry. Seen a Ford Kuga with low profiles go up.... lots of noise from the undercarriage and it is an AWD though.

    Tae note though that there is a sign board prohibiting vehicles un-equipped with 4 wheel drive from going up the pass. I don't now how strongly this law is applied but I wouldn't take a chance.
    Yup they do enforce the 4x4 bit .Sometimes they come out to check what kind of vehicle you drive .No 4x4 no drive the Pass

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    A new VW dune went up last week. So, a 4x2 should be fine.
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Stay away in your 2x4. What about Icy Corner?


    I've seen an @#$hole in a 2x4 who could not even approach Icy Corner, never mind negotiating bend itself. He eventually gave up and went home after constituting a danger to other road users. If you have a 2x4 stay on tarred roads and standard dirt roads, stay away from Sani , sand etc.

    IMHO a diff lock is for uneven rocky terrain only, and at slow speed. I tested my Prado on Mozzie beach once with diff lock. Makes vehicle utterly useless in sand and very difficult, if not impossible to make a u- turn on beach. Heard and felt severe strain on rear axle

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    You might make it up, but coming down without low range is going to cook your brakes and be dangerous. The berg weather is also notoriously fickle, if it starts a little early summer storm you're well stuffed.

    You're also going to do some environmental damage from wheel spin and sliding, not to mention damaging the vehicle. It's not the law you need to consider first.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    If you know your 4x2, you should be able to do it when the pass is in relative good nick.

    But not allowing 4x2s should be more strongly enforced than it is, as even with rear difflock there is lot's of wheel spin, stuffing up the pass. Also, the lack of low range forces you to go way too fast if you don't ride your clutch.

    The first time we went up many years ago our slow moving convoy was passed at icy corner by a 4x2 bakkie, in first gear, wheels spinning, rocks flying and bouncing heavily. Seeing this made it crystal clear why they should not be allowed on the pass.
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Is there a rule that you must have 4x4 to go down Sani pass?
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    Is there a rule that you must have 4x4 to go down Sani pass?

    as far as I know, it's still a rule that you must have 4x4 to do the pass.

    Whether this is actually enforced in any way, I cannot say.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    Is there a rule that you must have 4x4 to go down Sani pass?
    One guy did it in his Cobra, in snow I think.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    It's a rule but it's not enforced, they have never checked our vehicles when going through there
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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    One guy did it in his Cobra, in snow I think.

    we did it on the Sheild in 1998 in various 2WD cars, all pre 1975. Mercs, Porsches, Peugeots, Escorts, Mustangs,

    It was legal as it was done with permission.

    it's more than doable most of the time , although I wouldn't like to do it in icy wet conditions in anything less than a decent 4x4, I do have a friend who managed to go off the edge and roll a **few** times down the steep and nasty bit.

    whether it's legal or not I can't say, which would obviously affect insurance etc.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    as far as I know, it's still a rule that you must have 4x4 to do the pass.

    Whether this is actually enforced in any way, I cannot say.
    It is still a rule but I've never been checked, unless the border oke can see into the car park from his office. A really low vehicle will be caught 100m in the drag at the causeway.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    From Lesotho side, tarred up to the Lesotho customs. From Himeville, tarred up to the old trade post before the SA customs. The pass itself has been widened in some areas making it easier. This past weekend, traffic was quite heavy. Number of Taxi's up and down in various shapes an sizes. From 4x4 Hi-Ace, to what appears to be standard Quantum's. All taxi's were LOADED and the standard ones had to "run" the pass keeping momentum, could not stop and hooted at slow traffic ahead:-). The 4x4 taxi's appeared to have a Low gear and handled the uphill better.

    There was also an Ecosport that made it to the top.

    In summary: Yes it can certainly be done. Would I do it, with a vehicle other than a 4x4? Certainly not. I do not think anyone will guarantee that one would not damage your vehicle. Even in the areas at the bottom of the pass, there places where one would have to be careful and decent clearance would be nice. There are oil slicks on some rocky areas and also bits of Tupperware strewn in places - pieces of grills, bumpers etc. The weather can change in a flash, and being caught in a storm halfway up the pass would be very risky - especially if one is already aware of possible dangers.

    Latest Google earth is accurate as far as the tarred areas are concerned as well as the areas which have been widened.

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Went down 3 weeks ago - here's a video (4x speed)

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    Default Re: Sani Pass in a 2x4?

    Also went up Sani a few weeks back.
    Pass looks good, but will not do it in a 2x4...
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