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    Default 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Hi guys,

    So my Ranger is at 4x4MW in Edenvale today for its suspensions and the dealer manager phoned me regarding the Rhino bumper i want to put on (had to specify so the put the correct stiffens springs in) and he said that they are busy with the insurers around claims that if the bumper is not SRS approved by the manufacturer that they will not pay out? This could have some heavy implications for people who already have bumpers fitted and also the local manufacturers of bumpers...

    Anybody hear something similar?

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Out of curiosity. When they refer to SRS aproved, do they refer to an approval body, or "Secondary Restraint System" as it is abbreviated to on the dashboard?
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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    SRS as in airbag

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    I have not heard anything about insurers not paying out. That sounds ridiculous. If it's a specified accessory on the insured policy, that should be it. I notice 4x4MW spend a lot of time knocking competitor products rather than highlighting the positives of their own. It's not a very appealing sales strategy in my opinion.
    Out of interest, the Rhino 4x4 bumper is airbag tested and approved.
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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    If memory serves me right...

    We had a listen, at an organised event, where 4x4MW explained the whole replacement bumper conundrum. Apparently the replacement bumpers change the crash forces and the function of the airbag mechanism is influenced, deploying too early or too late, can't remember. Apparently....4x4MW obtained approval from Ford after submitting some test results of their replacement bumper (OME I think). Same goes for the suspension etc. At that stage there was only one bumper approved en hy is %&^%$ duur!!!!

    Funny that Ford offer to fit you a R6000,00 nudge-bar. Wonder if that was tested

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaydee View Post
    If memory serves me right...

    We had a listen, at an organised event, where 4x4MW explained the whole replacement bumper conundrum. Apparently the replacement bumpers change the crash forces and the function of the airbag mechanism is influenced, deploying too early or too late, can't remember. Apparently....4x4MW obtained approval from Ford after submitting some test results of their replacement bumper (OME I think). Same goes for the suspension etc. At that stage there was only one bumper approved en hy is %&^%$ duur!!!!

    Funny that Ford offer to fit you a R6000,00 nudge-bar. Wonder if that was tested

    Another word for this is price fixing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustbin View Post
    Another word for this is price fixing...

    you clearly don't understand the term 'price fixing'


    Price fixing is when manufacturers collude to push prices up across all similar products which defeats the normal supply and demand situation to develop super profits for ALL manufacturers.

    e.g. manufacturers collude to charge R15 for a loaf of bread when, if they were in genuine competition, the price would probably push to R12.

    This seems to be the exact opposite.

    one manufacturer is pushing up his price because it has serious advantages while others remain low priced... thats called normal competition! the price is decided without collusion with others.
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    Thanks Dirk... Absolutely fair of you.

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaydee View Post
    Funny that Ford offer to fit you a R6000,00 nudge-bar. Wonder if that was tested
    Replacement bumpers get bolted onto the chassis beams, nudgebar gets attached via flimsy brackets. The 2 are worlds apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hdp80 View Post
    Hi guys,

    So my Ranger is at 4x4MW in Edenvale today for its suspensions and the dealer manager phoned me regarding the Rhino bumper i want to put on (had to specify so the put the correct stiffens springs in) and he said that they are busy with the insurers around claims that if the bumper is not SRS approved by the manufacturer that they will not pay out? This could have some heavy implications for people who already have bumpers fitted and also the local manufacturers of bumpers...

    Anybody hear something similar?

    Cheers
    /h
    Never heard that, what a crock of poo.

    of course, megaword sells ARB bumpers which have a sticker stating they are airbag friendly or whatever - but thats also meaningless, because it's not manufacturer approved or whatever, so if the insurers were going to be sticky, they'll be sticky about any bumper.

    I suspect a large dose of BS is added there.

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Yeah i got the feeling there was a little propaganda going on here hahaha
    The Rhino reamains my first choice seeing as they are SRS approved (thanks Prodigal )8)

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    AFAIK to get full SRS or airbag compliance you would need to crash test 10 vehicles
    So 10 Disco 3s, 10 Disco 4s, 10 Rangers, 10 Pajeros, 10 Tunas and so on and so on.

    Can anyone tell me if this has been done
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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Please educate me a little bit. After the aftermarket bumper is attached to the vehicle, the crumble areas stays the same? In an impact all that changes is that there is now a aftermarket bumper in the way, but the crumble areas still do their designed function? That is to absorb energy. Unless the removed bumper also have an energy absorb function designed into it.

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    I have seen the video.
    Video or videos?

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    I have seen the video.
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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by hdp80 View Post
    Hi guys,

    So my Ranger is at 4x4MW in Edenvale today for its suspensions and the dealer manager phoned me regarding the Rhino bumper i want to put on (had to specify so the put the correct stiffens springs in)
    If the bumper is so heavy that the suspension springs needs to be modified, then there's no chance that a manufacturer (not a dealer) will agree.


    Quote Originally Posted by hdp80 View Post
    he said that they are busy with the insurers around claims that if the bumper is not SRS approved by the manufacturer that they will not pay out?
    Ask him what SRS approved means. The answers are always interesting.



    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal View Post
    Out of interest, the Rhino 4x4 bumper is airbag tested and approved.
    That's highly unlikely.

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    That's highly unlikely.
    Required by Australia authorities I believe.

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigal View Post
    Required by Australia authorities I believe.

    https://youtu.be/584paE0UaB8
    There seems to be a vehicle missing. Unless you posted the wrong link?

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    Default Re: 4x4 Megaworld shared some interesting info Re bumpers

    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    There seems to be a vehicle missing. Unless you posted the wrong link?
    Haha, you can't be that stupid, so I'll just laugh at your joke.
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