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    Default Need some advice from the experts on a new 4x4/sofroader

    hi guys need some advice regarding a few choices.

    price range max 120k

    needs: will be a day to day and the occasional offroad to moz , swazi, zim , bots and so on.

    obviously fuel efficient to a degree , reliability , and comfort.

    so far i have looked at these

    2007 freelander 2 i6/td4 +- 150000km on
    2008 hyundai tucson 2.0 crd 140000m awd with lock
    2005 vw touareg 2.5 tdi r5 auto 160000km with low range and cdl.
    2006 colt 2.8 tdi limited edition 175000km full 4x4
    2011 steed 5 2.4 p 4x4 56000km
    2006 rav4 2.2 d4d 180000km
    2008 ranger dbl cab 160000km 2.5dci

    i kknow there is a huge spectrum here but cant decide . want to keep it for as long as it will go . and dont want to spend thousands on parts as all are out of warrenty

    any advise will be much appriciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    hi guys need some advice regarding a few choices.

    price range max 120k

    needs: will be a day to day and the occasional offroad to moz , swazi, zim , bots and so on.

    obviously fuel efficient to a degree , reliability , and comfort.

    so far i have looked at these

    2007 freelander 2 i6/td4 +- 150000km on
    2008 hyundai tucson 2.0 crd 140000m awd with lock
    2005 vw touareg 2.5 tdi r5 auto 160000km with low range and cdl.
    2006 colt 2.8 tdi limited edition 175000km full 4x4
    2011 steed 5 2.4 p 4x4 56000km
    2006 rav4 2.2 d4d 180000km
    2008 ranger dbl cab 160000km 2.5dci

    i kknow there is a huge spectrum here but cant decide . want to keep it for as long as it will go . and dont want to spend thousands on parts as all are out of warrenty

    any advise will be much appriciated.
    talk to mariusfourie here on the forum about this one, he knows it well.
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    Default Re: Need some advice from the experts on a new 4x4/sofroader

    Honestly,for 120k i would look for a dihatsu terios.Not quite in the league of those in your list but reliable,fairly economical and should not cost much to maintain

    From your list,the bottom 3 should be the beter choices
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    It's been said a million times, but ~2003/4 Pajero Gen 3 Di-D? Also look at X-Trail 2.5 petrol 4x4 (just add some AT tyres. The 2.2 DCi's were troublesome) or the Terios Off Road (stronger output and 250 mm ground clearance with AT's).
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    Default Re: Need some advice from the experts on a new 4x4/sofroader

    I'm going to be biased and say Freelander 2
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    All those cars have crazy mileage
    I wouldnt go for the Freelander as the i^ is not particularly economical

    In the same mileage range there is this in your back yard. They are better than people give them credit for and it is a pukkah 4x4 with low range unlike the Terios.
    http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-car...54b32af2247438

    There are others but they are over your budget. Just know that right now things are tight and most dealers a re negotiable.

    Other good options are
    Subaru and as mentioned the Pajero. All 2005's are just outside your budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMatt View Post
    All those cars have crazy mileage
    I wouldnt go for the Freelander as the i^ is not particularly economical

    In the same mileage range there is this in your back yard. They are better than people give them credit for and it is a pukkah 4x4 with low range unlike the Terios.
    http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-car...54b32af2247438

    There are others but they are over your budget. Just know that right now things are tight and most dealers a re negotiable.

    Other good options are
    Subaru and as mentioned the Pajero. All 2005's are just outside your budget.

    Good Luck
    Didn't know that shape Vitara in good nick could sell for under R120 000! There you go, a fantastic option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Didn't know that shape Vitara in good nick could sell for under R120 000! There you go, a fantastic option.
    my concern is some people that i have spoken to say that the 2.4 vitara is pretty heavy on juice like 14l/100 ? but thats the auto i looked at 2011 model for 130k with 140000km on the clock.

    is there any truth to this. the suzuki is a lovely car . also it says no service history ? is this a concern for the suzuki's
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    my concern is some people that i have spoken to say that the 2.4 vitara is pretty heavy on juice like 14l/100 ? but thats the auto i looked at 2011 model for 130k with 140000km on the clock.

    is there any truth to this. the suzuki is a lovely car . also it says no service history ? is this a concern for the suzuki's
    No service history is a concern for any second hand car. If interested in this car, take the VIN and ask Suzuki to do a check whether the car was serviced at agents. But yes, Vitaras are not really known for their frugality.
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    FL2 comfort and decent economy never had any issues with the 2 I owned looking for another now.

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    Default Re: Need some advice from the experts on a new 4x4/sofroader

    Quote Originally Posted by Quirky View Post
    Everybody loves the sound of a hemi. But mortgaging a house to pay for fuel isn't the greatest idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    Everybody loves the sound of a hemi. But mortgaging a house to pay for fuel isn't the greatest idea

    Wouldn't be much worse than, say a 3.8l, Rubicon? 14-17l per 100km about...
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    Hey Bennett, what ever you do, do not buy a SWB Pajero
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    It's been said a million times, but ~2003/4 Pajero Gen 3 Di-D?
    I must concur.

    Or buy this:

    http://www.4x4community.co.za/classi...?product=38111

    They don't break. And they're decent on fuel. And great on the open road.

    And really, for that price?
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    I would say be realistic about what you can afford. If you buy a vehicle that costs 700-800 k new, then don't be surprised when you get hit with huge spares costs. It is afterAll a premium vehicle.

    I would say something like a 2.5 diesel ranger would be a good choice. I think these are pretty cheap to keep on the roads, give good economy and were produced locally in large numbers.
    Sexy- not at all. But probably cheap and frugal to run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    my concern is some people that i have spoken to say that the 2.4 vitara is pretty heavy on juice like 14l/100 ? but thats the auto i looked at 2011 model for 130k with 140000km on the clock.

    is there any truth to this. the suzuki is a lovely car . also it says no service history ? is this a concern for the suzuki's
    No thirstier than an i6 Freelander. Ask any Volvo t6 owner its the same engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    Hey Bennett, what ever you do, do not buy a SWB Pajero


    Why?
    Please motivate your advice.
    I drive one and think it is the greatest suv ever.
    They are strong, one piece body, all the luxuries .........


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    Quote Originally Posted by bennett View Post
    my concern is some people that i have spoken to say that the 2.4 vitara is pretty heavy on juice like 14l/100 ? but thats the auto i looked at 2011 model for 130k with 140000km on the clock.

    is there any truth to this. the suzuki is a lovely car . also it says no service history ? is this a concern for the suzuki's
    I have the 2.4 m, 2015 model and my consumption pulling an off road trailer is 8,2km/l. Without trailer it varies between 11-12km/l and my average is about 10km/l or 10l/100km. For a vehicle that is permanent 4x4 and has low range, this is not bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErichV View Post
    I have the 2.4 m, 2015 model and my consumption pulling an off road trailer is 8,2km/l. Without trailer it varies between 11-12km/l and my average is about 10km/l or 10l/100km. For a vehicle that is permanent 4x4 and has low range, this is not bad at all.
    My dad gets the same on his 2.4 Auto. Bit heavy if he pushes on but still acceptable for a petrol full time 4x4 with low range
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