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    Ok don't know where to post this.

    Which is beter? Looking at power, reliability, availability of spares, feul consumption, offroad capability ens..


    Hope I can start a debate here...

    Lets take a 2005 model both 3.0 td 4x4 DC
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    As far as I know, the 2005 Ranger was a rebadged Mazda with the WL25 2.5TDi?
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    Jip or the Mazda was a rebagded ford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Warrior View Post
    Jip or the Mazda was a rebagded ford.
    Nope. For markets outside of North America, Ford badge engineered the Japanese-built Mazda B-Series as the Courier starting in 1971, renaming it the Ranger in 1998; the Courier nameplate was retained in Australasia until 2006.

    Ford also never built a WL25 engine. It's a Mazda engine.
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    Wow. I didn't know that. Thanx
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    Back to the debate:

    the Nissan ZD30 engine is much more powerful than the indirect injection WL25 , but more complex and more expensive to maintain.

    Think of the WL25 as the small brother to the Colt2800 4M40, only stronger............
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    Last time we had to redo a turbo on an Audio the owner of the company indicated the Mazda turbo is the cheapest to repair in the event of failure or for preventative maintenance. Also very reliable.

    Although I am a big fan of the Hardbody and the 3.0 TD engine it used to come out with, I will not easily consider one. They're too old, and very expensive to repair when the turbo goes compared with the Ford / Mazda 2.5 TD.
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    I had the colt 2.8 and it wasnt a pretty story. I almost fitted a lexus v8 into mine out of frustration..
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    You CAN with a NISSAN.....baie torque....sleep ook baie lekker.

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    Meer torque as n ford 3.0?
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    Initially the 3.0 16v TD was specced as having a lot more output, and then it got the nickname of hand grenade the way it blew up. Then output was reduced, and in 2005 I bought one, whilst my friend bought the 2.5 turbo diesel Ford. I thought I would out-tow him. No chance.


    Our caravans weighed the same, with the same frontal area. We toured from Cape Town to Kruger, Tsipise, Marekele and back, and there was very little to choose between the two in terms of power or consumption.


    If you are cross with your rear seat passengers and wants to punish them, buy the Nissan. On the other hand, the Nissan came out with a superb radio.


    Looking back I think I should have bought the Ford. The Nissan's diesel pump failed at 80000 (R 19000 recon) and its headlights outer plastic faded in the sun. I still regularly travel in that Ford, and it is still like new after 11 years. I think it is built better.
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    I have an 03 zd30, 320k+ on the clock, always drove it as if I stole it and it's the one vehicle I know will start up and go tomorrow morning. Been rock solid and no real issues I can recall except turbo rubber pipes cracking twice. Just the other day on the way back from ceres I outdragged a new 2.2 ranger up a hill in 5th, it pulls like a train. A mate had the 2.5 ford, I drove it occasionally, a very nippy motor, nice and his was reliable too, tail just seems much lighter than the Nissan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris dippenaar View Post
    You CAN with a NISSAN.....baie torque....sleep ook baie lekker.



    Iewers het ek die storie so `n bietjie anders.


    Nissan 110kw en 314nm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_ZD_engine




    Ford 115kw en 380nm.
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    Grips, middag. Jong ek sleep met 3.3 v6. MAAR ek het rerag nie geweet JMC is famielie van ford en mazda nie. Baie interresant, ek geniet die forum baie. Dankie mater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris dippenaar View Post
    Grips, middag. Jong ek sleep met 3.3 v6. MAAR ek het rerag nie geweet JMC is famielie van ford en mazda nie. Baie interresant, ek geniet die forum baie. Dankie mater.

    JMC!!!!!!!!!!!!Huh!!!!!


    Sorry maat ek is maar gewoond om met pieperige Fordjies te sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Iewers het ek die storie so `n bietjie anders.


    Nissan 110kw en 314nm
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_ZD_engine




    Ford 115kw en 380nm.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_BT-50
    Daai ford is die 2006 duratorq 3.0 motor, nie die wl25 nie

    Wl 25 het so 80kw en omtrent 280nm as ek reg onthou
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    Die 2006 en aan ford engines het baie meer go as die zd30, maar die np300 se 2.5 van 2007 gee hulle n lekker go
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    Ek dink die TD27Ti en die WL25 is redelik vergelykbaar. Beide baie betroubaar, beide goedkoop om te herstel kanniedoods...
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    Reenen as ek die OP reg verstaan praat hy van die 3.0l.
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    Ja, maar toe gaan maak hy dit vas op 2005, en wl25 was al wat toe beskikbaar was, en toe begin die mense krag quote op wl25 en ZD30, dus die rede dat die durtatorques uitgesluit is:
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