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    Question Choosing a 4x4

    Gents, Ladies i want to buy a 4x4. I have been looking around randomly for about a year, mainly waiting on work prospects. My vehicle has been written off about 2 weeks ago so I'm now forced into getting something. I can't afford a new one and my budget is around R250K. I'm not looking for you to tell me anything specific rather a general feeling of what direction to head. Here's what I have come across.

    Currently looking at Ford, Toyota, Isuzu and Mitsubishi.

    I have scoured the local KZN market and have come up with 2 possibilities.
    1. lowish mileage (<100 000km), in budget = Over-spray, possible accident damage
    2. High mileage (<200 000km) , in budget = Good condition, no accident traces

    What are the thoughts on say a 5 year old Toyota with 170 000km, or a ford or mitsubishi. I'll likely end up doing 15 000km a year and I want to believe that the Ford and Toyota diesel engines would likely take me passed 300 000km if serviced and treated well.

    I'm just looking for some general feedback, as I can't afford new, surely there is still the possibility for us to go on holidays with a 4x4?
    Thanks for any help and advice.
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    value for money , comfort and good offroad ability, look at Pajero.
    if you need a bakkie load bin, then the Ford 3.0crdi, toyota D4D and isuzu 300 are all good motors.
    Currently do not own a 4x4, driving a sedan
    Ex: 2013 Ford Ranger 3.2 XLT 4x4 auto
    Ex: 2012 Ford Ranger 3.2 XLT 4x4 auto
    Ex: 2013 Ford Ranger 2.2 XLS 2WD manual
    Ex: 2009 Mazda BT50 3.0 CRDi double cab manual

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    In that budget you could find a decent Pajero sport with the 3.2 did engine that is bound to last for donkey years if looked after.
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    So based on your selection, I assume a double cab?
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    Lots of questions that'll help come up with a better answer.

    Will it be a daily driver or just holiday/weekend/fun vehicle?
    Bakkie or SUV?
    What kind of offroading will you do? Trails, overlanding, etc.
    Need to pull a heavy trailer/caravan?

    There are probably loads more questions that can be asked, I'm just a noob myself.

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    Ah, sorry guys.

    Yes, a double cab. Just had my first son, need to take him places

    Daily drive, short distance hence the 15 000km yearly mileage.
    A bit of everything if possible, obviously depending on what I get, I'll be limited. I would like to overland the most, trails as a bonus.
    No trailer/caravan at this point, but I would like to get an off road trailer with rooftop tent when my boy is old enough.

    Thanks guys, appreciate the willingness to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriesIIIRO View Post
    Ah, sorry guys.

    Yes, a double cab. Just had my first son, need to take him places

    Daily drive, short distance hence the 15 000km yearly mileage.
    A bit of everything if possible, obviously depending on what I get, I'll be limited. I would like to overland the most, trails as a bonus.
    No trailer/caravan at this point, but I would like to get an off road trailer with rooftop tent when my boy is old enough.

    Thanks guys, appreciate the willingness to help.

    http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bakk...70910352677409
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    Sjoe, that 130 has been at that dealer since I got my Jeep there 2.5 months ago. Would've thought it'd go quickly, looked very nice from the cursory glance I gave it.
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    Under consideration... Thanks HeavyG
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriesIIIRO View Post
    Under consideration... Thanks HeavyG
    Plenty more on Gumtree.

    http://www.cars.co.za/for-sale/used/.../#.Vl7ivkcgnX4
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    Why do you need a bakkie? Do you need to put stuff in the back? Bakkies are terrible value for money. Rather get a mint SUV like a Pajero etc

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    What are the thoughts on say a 5 year old Toyota with 170 000km, or a ford or mitsubishi. I'll likely end up doing 15 000km a year and I want to believe that the Ford and Toyota diesel engines would likely take me passed 300 000km if serviced and treated well.
    Really almost any modern diesel will take you to 300,000km and beyond if treated well. If you're set on a double-cab those are pretty much the marques you'd look at, but you could also add Mazda, Nissan and VW too.

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    Yeah, I have dogs that enjoy muddy swims, I have a large garden that requires garden refuse be moved and I do most of my own DIY work, so often need to transport items that would just be easier with a bin.
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    For the R250 budget


    you can get a 2009/2010 double cab 4x4 and an offroad trailer like Bush baby or Jurgens XT65 with all the bells
    Currently do not own a 4x4, driving a sedan
    Ex: 2013 Ford Ranger 3.2 XLT 4x4 auto
    Ex: 2012 Ford Ranger 3.2 XLT 4x4 auto
    Ex: 2013 Ford Ranger 2.2 XLS 2WD manual
    Ex: 2009 Mazda BT50 3.0 CRDi double cab manual

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    IMO go for one of the brands you mentioned and not the 130, I would go for a Hilux D4D ( very reliable but theft could be a risk) Isuzu(very reliable) Triton ( reliable and very underated - look a bit odd)
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    My advice:
    Consider a petrol and be careful of bakkie-tunnel-vision. Short daily drive is not ideal for a turbo diesel. On the diesel the maintenance costs are higher, initial price is MUCH higher. The marginal fuel economy difference will take 150k - 200k km to break even on initial cost.


    Bakkie is not that practical! If you're not a farmer or a contractor you end up using the load bin three times a year. For the rest of the year it is a liability. Things can get stolen or you need to spend extra for a canopy/lockable cover. I removed the one section of the rear seat in my Grand Vitara and have some plastic crates/blankets if I really need to transport dirty stuff. Alternatively you can rather buy a small ventertjie (R8k?) for the garden refuse/whatever...


    For R200k-R250k you can get an almost new Grand Vitara Dune: it is a joy on the road, quite capable off, has low range, gets 9-10km/l (manual) on the open road, 7-9km/l in town.


    A car with 180 000km on the clock WILL start costing you money - regardless of manufacturer. A newer car will give you thousands of km trouble-free.


    (example: http://www.olx.co.za/ad/2015-suzuki-...tml#d5a7888d45)
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    As a family vehicle, the rear leg room will be important. Junior might be small now, but they have a tendency to grow really quickly. Swambo will also have to sit with him in the back a lot. Don't bother with leather seats. You will get seat covers soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzukiPiet View Post
    My advice:
    Consider a petrol and be careful of bakkie-tunnel-vision. Short daily drive is not ideal for a turbo diesel. On the diesel the maintenance costs are higher, initial price is MUCH higher. The marginal fuel economy difference will take 150k - 200k km to break even on initial cost.


    Bakkie is not that practical! If you're not a farmer or a contractor you end up using the load bin three times a year. For the rest of the year it is a liability. Things can get stolen or you need to spend extra for a canopy/lockable cover. I removed the one section of the rear seat in my Grand Vitara and have some plastic crates/blankets if I really need to transport dirty stuff. Alternatively you can rather buy a small ventertjie (R8k?) for the garden refuse/whatever...





    For R200k-R250k you can get an almost new Grand Vitara Dune: it is a joy on the road, quite capable off, has low range, gets 9-10km/l (manual) on the open road, 7-9km/l in town.


    A car with 180 000km on the clock WILL start costing you money - regardless of manufacturer. A newer car will give you thousands of km trouble-free.


    (example: http://www.olx.co.za/ad/2015-suzuki-...ml#d5a7888d45)

    Very, very good post!!!


    XJ Junkie you also make a valid point re value for money on bakkies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister4 View Post
    Very, very good post!!!


    XJ Junkie you also make a valid point re value for money on bakkies.
    Steady on there. Neil made a valid point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mic_zw View Post
    Steady on there. Neil made a valid point?
    I hope so :-).

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