Gansbaai GTG yet again December!

[Gustav Jimny]

Eish, wit mossel met wyn en knoffel sousie.....

[EttiennedK]

Die trip van Pearly na die Dam is die lekkerste, en dan sluit dit Plankieskraal in. Die oorvalde huisies. Daar is verlaate strande by die plek ook. Se maar net. Bring cozzie

Zulu, ek het nog die die Patrollie laat sandvreet nie. As ons 'n paar mense kan rëel is ek in. Dink ek of jy sal net vir Reenen moet kontak - lyk my hy het sy gat in 'n krul geruk vir die Forum!

[tocin]

Enigste manier om, na President se aankondiging, wettig op die Plaat of Gruis te kom is met 'n wildcard EN hengel lisensie.
Verniet vanoggend by Gansbaai en Pearly Brach probeer.. Geen permitte beskikbaar

[EttiennedK]

Jip, Mnr "With Immediate Effect" het die een solidly gekelder. Ek kon ook nie vanoggend 'n permit kry nie.

[RossJ]

is the fishing permits that are not available

[JJJ]

Enigste manier om, na President se aankondiging, wettig op die Plaat....
Verniet vanoggend by Gansbaai...

As dit 'n noodgeval is, kan jy van Stanford via Wortelgat by die Plaat - Polle, Sopiesklip, Duifklippe - kom. Daar is vir jare al nie meer 'n natuurbewaring kiosk nie.

Ons was 2 naweke gelede daar in. Gratis en verniet.

Dit is natuurlik moontlik dat daar sedert vanoggend 'n blokkade is....

[tocin]

Yes
They don't allow you in with only a wildcard.. Must show valid fishing lisence..

[tocin]

As dit 'n noodgeval is, kan jy van Stanford via Wortelgat by die Plaat - Polle, Sopiesklip, Duifklippe - kom. Daar is vir jare al nie meer 'n natuurbewaring kiosk nie.

Ons was 2 naweke gelede daar in. Gratis en verniet.

Dit is natuurlik moontlik dat daar sedert vanoggend 'n blokkade is....

Ek ken al die geheime paadjies om by die see te kom van die Plaat hier tot by die Damme.. Maar gaan nou nie daai boksie oopmaak nie.. Sopas gehoor geen hengel toegelaat in Overstrand agv Hotspotstatus.. So res vd vakansie hier in die Kelders gaan maar boring wees.. Tussen Alikruk uithaal,visvang en braai by die see elke tweede dag, en nou bonop drankies rantsoneer oorweeg ek 'n vroeë terugkeer huistoe,

[Afdak]

.. Sopas gehoor geen hengel toegelaat in Overstrand agv Hotspotstatus.. So res vd vakansie hier in die Kelders gaan maar boring wees.. Tussen Alikruk uithaal,visvang en braai by die see elke tweede dag, en nou bonop drankies rantsoneer oorweeg ek 'n vroeë terugkeer huistoe,

Dis fake news. Die reg is duidelik dat hengel met 'n permit toelaatbaar is van alle strande.

En ek dink toegang tot enige rotsagtige kus strook is toelaatbaar want dit is nie 'n strand nie.

En as jy op die paaie bly op pad plaat toe is jy nie op die strand nie want die Parke sal nie voertuie op strande toelaat nie.

https://www.gov.za/documents/disaste...-19-lockdown-0

[pgjonker]

The 15 December regulations made it clear that “the closure of beaches and restrictions on times of operation do not apply to fisherman…..who are in possession of a permit……”.


Evidently “the closure of beaches” refers to the hotspot beaches, whereas the “restrictions on times” bears reference to the curfew periods at open beaches. There would be no other reason to use the two terms next to each other in the same sentence. And this is how it has been applied. Until this morning, it seems.


In some areas Law Enforcers now tell local fishermen at hotspot beaches that they cannot go fishing anymore, not even with a permit. And the reason for that would seem to lie in the way the latest regulations had been set out.


The 28 December regulations has the exact same wording, but the layout is now as follows:

36 Gatherings

(9) All beaches…..are closed to the public in all the areas declared as hotspots.

(10)

(a) Beaches that are open to the public in non-hospots shall –

1. Only be open between 06h00 and 19h00; and
2. …..

(b) The closure of beaches and restrictions on times of operation do not apply to fisherman…..who are in possession of a permit…….

What you now have is that Law Enforcers interpret this as follows: because the permit exception appears under paragraph (10) which deals with non-hotspot beaches, they argue that it applies only to non-hotspot beaches. By contrast, it is argued, because paragraph (9) that deals with hotspot beaches does not also have a provision for the exception of fisherman, it must be understood that it was intended to exclude the fishermen exception for hotspot beaches.


I understand that the minister has since said on TV that the exception does apply also to hotspot beaches.


So the minister never intended to exclude fishermen from the hotspot beaches. In addition, as the exception still applies also to “closure of beaches”, it can only mean that it was intended to refer to the hotspot closed beaches.


Problem is, how does one go about convincing Law Enforcement about this without political pressure for the minister to rectify the position?

[Nerd]

Hi All

We are planning a trip to Gansnbaai for the long weekend in March, 19 - 22 March. We will camp at Strandkloof, but would love to get to Spookdorp. None of us has been there.
We hope that all COVID related restrictions have been lifted and will plan as such.

Could anyone please explain what permit we need to get where to visit the Spookdorp, maybe have a contact number?
Anyone is welcome to join off course.

Cheers

[ZuluCowboy]

Could anyone please explain what permit we need to get where to visit the Spookdorp, maybe have a contact number?
Anyone is welcome to join off course.

Cheers

Hi. I'll probably be there. There is strictly speaking no permit required, but if you drive in the other areas of the Walker Bay Nature Reserve a permit IS required, which is R50 pp, but if you have a wild card the usual fees apply etc. There are great areas to go drive and see and not vehicle breakers and mommy and the "mini me's/shorties" can also join and enjoy. You can WhatsApp me on owe ate too, for nayin 6 9934 and then can chat like that. Cheers. Z

[Nerd]

Hi. I'll probably be there. There is strictly speaking no permit required, but if you drive in the other areas of the Walker Bay Nature Reserve a permit IS required, which is R50 pp, but if you have a wild card the usual fees apply etc. There are great areas to go drive and see and not vehicle breakers and mommy and the "mini me's/shorties" can also join and enjoy. You can WhatsApp me on owe ate too, for nayin 6 9934 and then can chat like that. Cheers. Z

Hi Zulu

I will do so closer to the time. Thank you so much.

Nerd

[ZuluCowboy]

Just an update, was a bit bored today so drove there, , getting to be a fun drive. Also, the houses are literally disappearing, brick by brick, due to low cost housing reclaimers chipping the bricks out and carting them away.

There are a few of them, so should be something to see for a while yet.

Have also found the best sundowner spot on the western side of Gansbaai, blanket, beers and cheese and quackers.