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    My symptoms were (only sharing because it can save a life)
    Chronic lower back pain misdiagnosed by lots of doctors. My prostate was twice the normal size when I was finally diagnosed.
    Difficulty in emptying your bladder and leaks.
    Pain when sitting on a solid surface.
    Then that fateful day when I was peeing blood - happened once only. Fortunately I was in a shopping mall and could see it.
    Donít let the doctor tell you he only relies on the rectum examination. The psa test is easy and reliable.
    I went for a biopsy as well as a roadioactive test where you get scanned. As far as Iím concerned a biopsy is a waste of time and money. It only verifies what the psa test has already determined. Once you have a radical prostatectomy they will analyse the monsters again.
    There are various treatments which you can take to get rid of cancer.
    But just donít ignore it - once it metastise (%) your life will become very difficult.
    Oh, and ignore it when you are 70 plus old.
    Men die having prostate cancer, not because of it (normally anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    There must be some kind of symptoms,no matter how small. Please could you mention them.?Can you not pee as high as you used too.?
    Pee 4 times at night instead of once. In my case I have a testicular cyst which has a dull pain 24/7. I also had PSA tests every year just sommer.
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    I have not visited a doctor for about 14 years now, but reading this thread makes me think maybe I should do so, or at least get some blood tests done, turning 54 this year,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariusrautenbach View Post
    Can say I had my first rear check on my 25th Bday last year.... Not fun!!
    Ain't 25 a little bit young to be tested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REAList View Post
    After treatment?
    If you consider surgery as treatment then yes. Catch it early and your chances of being fine is extremely high
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    Been drinking chronic pills for quit a few years now, till the levels were getting to high last year and was sent to a specialist, a she. She looks at the blood tests and do the finger test etc and then prescribed some antibiotics, for quit a period, as its apparently its a slow process in there. Tests results after the antibiotics were very positive. According to her high PSA? levels is not necessary cancer.
    The antibiotics and chronic pills she prescribed were not available at that stage in Windhoek, but she insists on those pills only, nothing else. Still drinking those chronic pills to keep the swelling in control, and seldom get up for pee in the night. Swelling is appartly at age normal also.

    She also said you most monitor it from a young stage, dont wait you are standing for 10 minutes to pee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stoffel View Post
    Ain't 25 a little bit young to be tested?
    Not at all,i would say that is the starting age to get your blood done.

    Herman pretorius who was a famous presenter on dstv who was very well known in the music scene was diagnosed with stage 3 TC when he was 28,he sadly passed away a year later. That is what started the vrede foundation if any knows it.

    But that was when i realised that men can get it at a very young age,this was about 10 years ago.

    So young people should get the psa. If your dad has it then you need to get the DRE also,because our chances are higher of getting it. I will be doing both yearly from now on.

    And the toppies should also do both,and don't skip a year. If my dad was diagnosed a year later it could have been worse,hence why everyone says catching it early is important.

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    Caught mine early though psa test and not finger test. Had brachytherapy and a year later my psa readings were as low as a healthy teenager. That was 3 years ago.

    Would encourage all to have tests done at recommended intervals. We religiously service our 4x4ís but tend to put off our own maintenance.

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    PSA test is less than 200 Ront. Just go in. No need to see a Doc first.
    There is no task too simple for some people to complicate !



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    Quote Originally Posted by REAList View Post
    My symptoms were (only sharing because it can save a life)
    Chronic lower back pain misdiagnosed by lots of doctors. My prostate was twice the normal size when I was finally diagnosed.
    Difficulty in emptying your bladder and leaks.
    Pain when sitting on a solid surface.
    Then that fateful day when I was peeing blood - happened once only. Fortunately I was in a shopping mall and could see it.
    Donít let the doctor tell you he only relies on the rectum examination. The psa test is easy and reliable. It is easy yes, but NO it is not reliable at all !!
    I went for a biopsy as well as a roadioactive test where you get scanned. As far as Iím concerned a biopsy is a waste of time (you have it completely wrong here, biopsy is the most reliable test) and money. It only verifies what the psa test has already determined. Once you have a radical prostatectomy they will analyse the monsters again.
    There are various treatments which you can take to get rid of cancer. (you need some degree of luck too)
    But just donít ignore it - once it metastise (%) your life will become very difficult.
    Oh, and ignore it when you are 70 plus old.
    Men die having prostate cancer, not because of it (normally anyway).
    PSA and DRE are helpful indicators - first line of defense tests.
    A biopsy is the most definitive test available, but there are some risks involved.
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    If medical detail makes you queazy, don't read this.
    If you are male, over 50, and you are serious about your health, read on.

    The "tests" everyone goes on about are nothing to be afraid of - really. So what(?) if the doc "prods" you with a gloved finger. You won't get pregnant - for sure. As long as your real enemies don't ever catch you like that - now that WOULD be something.

    The following is not gospel for I'm no medic, but then I have been through it all because I now live with prostate cancer.

    The blood PSA test indicates antigens in the blood that relate directly to your body's immune system response to prostate problems. Should you have a prostate infection of some kind for example, the PSA reading will go up quite radically, and return to normal in a month or 2. That is why the PSA in itself is a tool, and by no means a sure fire indicator of PC. Typical PSA values for a male over 50 would be values up to 4. Slightly more is still normal, provided the readings are stable (no increase).

    The DRE (finger probe test) may indicate to your GP that there might be hardening or enlargement of the prostate. Should the GP suspect something is out of the ordinary, he will refer you to an urologist for a more specialised diagnosis. If for instance you do do a lot of cycling, you may develop an enlarged prostate. Enlargement in itself is not necessarily a big deal.

    A urologist will perform the same DRE. It is painless, easy and quick, and he is better qualified at diagnosing problems with the prostate than your GP. He can measure the flow rate when passing urine and put a number to it. He will also have an ultrasonic imaging device that aids in "seeing" what gives with your internal pelvic area organs. The ultrasonic device is the same as that which is used to check the fetus of a pregnant woman. No sweat there, for once again it is non invasive, not embarassing, quick and easy.

    Personally I have seen a urologist for my first preventative check when I turned 50 (my wife is a nurse and she insisted). Since then I've been to my GP for regular preventative checks, as well as the occasional visit to an intern to have a cardiovascular stress test - the one with a hunderd-and-ten probes attached to your chest. 20 Months ago my GP referred me to a urologist for a proper prostate check and still everything showed up fine. 12 Months later the basic preventative tests still showed no reason for concern, but my blood PSA reading went from a stable 5,5 to 14. Still no big deal, for the PSA reading will typically shoot up to well over a 100 if PC sets in. But I had also developed other symptoms. Slightly slower urine flow, and the occasional discoloration of the first few drops of urine that I passed in the morning. Sometimes I got a brief sense of discomfort in the pelvic, but it always went away again. No getting up during the night. So it was time for me to go into hospital for a quick visit, into theater, and under anaesthetic do a biopsy to have it analyzed to confirm once again that all was still fine. Nope, not this time. Cancer of the prostate was confirmed by the biopsy.

    I should have been diagnosed in good to time and be able to treat the problem and continue with life. So why do people like me still get PC? Simply because not all prostate cancers are the same. Mine was diagnosed as adeno carcinoma, high grade. And I learned that one's blood PSA does not really respond to this type of PC. Yup, unlucky me. An MRI scan revealed that it had spread to the prostate, bladder, lymph glands and the surrounding soft tissue. This eliminated both radiation and surgery as remedial actions.

    My only option now is to slow the PC's further growth and spread - metastising as the learned folks label it. Slow it down as much as you can, and live with it for as long as you are given. It can be as much as 5 years according to my oncologist, but only if you are lucky.

    Slowing PC down is done with hormone treatment and some other supplemental options that can be added on top of that as time goes by and the PC changes its character. It changes character over time and will eventually become more radical. Bad news yes. The rather limited good news is that the radical component is likely to respond to chemo. But this chemo is particularly nasty.

    Hormone treatment is a nice way of saying that testosterone is the new enemy and it must be gotten rid of. Doing so comes with a few obvious side effects.

    So my best advice to one & all men over 50 is to have your prostate checked out once a year. Do the PSA thing as well as the "other" thing. It is still the best option, even if not infallible.
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    Excellent advise given! Your choice if you want to listen..... But rather take the advice from guys with PC, it really is worth it.
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    Ek ry ook in die bus. Gelukig vroeg opgetel PSA telling 4 en kon nie verbeter na `n jaar van antibiotikas behandelings ens . Biopsie en toe positief. Been xray scan of iets kan nie die naam onthou nie (moes ###### klomp water of vloeistof drink ) gedoen maar gelukkig nie versprei nie.

    Uroloog opdrag gegee om radikaal te doen.
    3 Jaar elke 3 maande PSA <.01 Nou net vir volgende 5 jaar elke 6 maande telling laas jaar ( 6 maandeliks) ook <.02.
    Daar is sekere dinge wat `n mens maar moet inboet , dis maar die "roll of the dice.

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    Ek het ook die radikale paaidjie gestap, maar ongelukkig het myne steeds versprei. Nou is daar nie pille, brille, chemo, bestraling of inspuitings wat hom wil laat dooi nie. Kan maar net die groei en verspreiding vertraag. Maar op die oomblik lei ek 'n vol en gelukkige lewe.
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    Goed om te sien dat so baie mense hulle stories gedeel het al.
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    Ek stap nou ook die padjie. Na my besoek aan my GP (November 2017) vir algemene ondersoek word die DRE en bloedtoes ook gedoen. Hy laat my weet dat die PSA toets 'n bietjie hoog is. Dit saam met die prostaat wat effens vergroot is (wat normaal is vir ouer mans) beveel hy aan ek sien 'n Uroloog. Die Uroloog doen al die toetse en sÍ dat 'n biopsie ons meer kan vertel. Biopsie gedoen in teater en uit die 9 monsters is daar 1 wat 5% kanker selle bevat. Dit is 'n nie agresiewe kanker maar ek sal elke 3 mnd die Uroloog besoek vir toetse en verdere behandeling of verwydering.

    Die toetse is niks om oor skaam te wees nie, laat dit doen en weet jy is gesond of jy kan die kanker vroeggenoeg begin behandel. Jou vrou en kinders verwag dit van jou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gungets Tuft View Post
    Awkward indeed ... and uncomfortable but not painful.
    Unless your Urologist is built like a WWE wrestler and has fingers like bananas. Like mine...
    ENJOY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EttiennedK View Post
    Unless your Urologist is built like a WWE wrestler and has fingers like bananas. Like mine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    There must be some kind of symptoms,no matter how small. Please could you mention them.?Can you not pee as high as you used too.?
    Lower back pain (not sure about the relationship, by my lower back pain of which I suffered since my rugby playing days has now all but disappeared!!)
    Feels like you are sitting on a golf ball
    Urinating problems - this happens over time so you may not realise it has become "abnormal"
    Erection problems
    You will most likely not experience any symptomatic pain - that's why it is a silent killer!
    Not a high PSA count as such, but rather a upward trend (this is how mine was picked up) - I haven't experienced any of the above symptoms at the time, but in hindsight some were there to a lesser extent.

    BUT the best option is to consult your doctor REGULARLY. It won't prevent PC, but it can be cured - but ONLY if detected timeously!



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