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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by RodS View Post
    Stop worrying! Namibia is not the middle of nowhere, there are thousands of local diesel vehicles driving everywhere every day. The fuel at the fuel stations is just as clean as SA.

    Now you have nothing more to worry about for the next 12 months
    LOL. Ok.....I just this morning read a post where someone is asking for help for their son in Mozambique if I'm not mistaken where they had dirty fuel in their discovery. Dunno how to add another threads URL or whatever in here.

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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarylB View Post
    For 17 years my wife and I crisscrossed Africa alone in, mostly, a SIII Landy, a SFA Hilux DC, prior to that an Isuzu 4x4, and subsequently a LR 110 TDi. This was prior to satellite phones and even cellphones and only in later years did we have GPS. We worked off 1:50,000 topographical maps and spent months at a time without any contact with the outside world, for example tracking desert elephants and rhino in the Kaokoveld (long before T4A or even the Shell Map series).

    Occasionally we'd get somewhere like Kamanjab or Sesfontein and find a tickeybox and try to make a long distance call to SWAMBO's mom, and invariably would get the maid with "Eh...Gogo has gone to town..." so we'd leave a message we'd called, and will try again in a month or two!

    We knew we had to be self-contained and totally self-reliant but that was our lifestyle. (How my FIL or MIL put up with it I have no idea!)

    I carried comprehensive spares but probably the most unreliable of all the cars was the newest, the LR TDi. That old SIII was a gem though.

    Worst day for repairs? 17 punctures (sicklebush/Chinese lantern) in a remote area of Savuti, with a water pump replacement somewhere in the middle of them too! Yes, I carried a spare. Also spare alternator, clutch plate and release bearing, hoses, bearings, shocks, belts etc. All in a spare steel ammo Box permanently on the roof.

    We had both rear shocks break in Damaraland on the TDi, and the coils jump off their seats, front UJ go, also on the TDi (2wd for the rest of the trip), 2nd gear go on the Isuzu somewhere in Malawi on our way to Kenya in 1994, and sundry other issues! (Ran my gearbox on a bunch of green bananas after losing all the oil in Botswana once!)

    Were we irresponsible? Probably...but we were young and had no alternative. That was our chosen lifestyle, we did it, and we survived. Would we do it again? Certainly, though most of those areas are much tamer today and it's hard not to see another vehicle every day, if not every few hours!

    Nowadays it appears every "adventurer" needs backups, failsafes, recovery plans, and "what if" insurance.

    That's just not an adventure anymore!
    I hear you but....

    Like standing on the back of a bakkie and driving 100km/h. We did it. Grinding without safety gear. We did it. Diving of tables 60m no BC, we did it. But we have become a bit wiser, definitely assessing the risk better.

    So yes I was about 20 000 x more stupid then than now
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TysonJopson View Post
    Always prefer to go with someone - even if they're annoying

    Did a section of Khwai alone once and got stuck on one of the bridges. Apparently it's known for 'having a gravity vortex to the right if you're travelling south' wrote one guy

    I wrote a story about it for Getaway magazine > http://www.getaway.co.za/activities/...-land-cruiser/

    Anyone been over the bridge in that picture?
    yes but managed to stay on that one!
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    Question Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    I bumped into this thread at the most apt time of a thought that crossed my mind recently.

    Flare Guns...

    Are they not a thing anymore? Do they only exist in movies?

    I have read posts of people attaching small cellphones on a drone, sending it to the sky to send a rescue me message. The other post was a water crossing gone wrong in Botswana, guy was rescued by rangers who saw his drone blinking in the night sky, their smoke was ineffective in the dark. This was when I thought, well wait a minute, I see nobody talking about flare guns as a part or any rescue gear.

    Do these not exist anymore?
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    This sticky thread touches on my experience since my wife and I only really started serious overlanding in August 2017 and have already had to unpack our vehicle twice to get at the recovery gear ammo crate in order to pull a (Russian) tourist in a Hyundai i10 out of sand in Namibia (Aug'17) and one of our own party driving a Freelander 2, also out of sand, in Zambia, Liuwa Plain (Dec'17)... the pics tell the stories...

    In both cases, neither of the stuck vehicles had a tow rope/strap...
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    Quote Originally Posted by digibane View Post
    I bumped into this thread at the most apt time of a thought that crossed my mind recently.

    Flare Guns...

    Are they not a thing anymore? Do they only exist in movies?

    I have read posts of people attaching small cellphones on a drone, sending it to the sky to send a rescue me message. The other post was a water crossing gone wrong in Botswana, guy was rescued by rangers who saw his drone blinking in the night sky, their smoke was ineffective in the dark. This was when I thought, well wait a minute, I see nobody talking about flare guns as a part or any rescue gear.

    Do these not exist anymore?
    I havent seen a Flare Gun in ages, most are self contained individual flares with a trigger mechanism of it's own. Mainly used in nautical environments but can be used on land. There are other nautical electronic devices like EPIRB (Ships) and SART (Life Boats) that will emit an emergency signal with location. Ideal as long as it is attached to or near survivors.

    In military circles and for land use, there are TACBEs used to send a distress signal to aircraft overhead, but I am not sure if these are available for civilian use.

    An EPIRB/SART type function would be ideal to include in a Sat phone though but I dont know if they have this already.
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    And for heavens sake, dont forget to pack sufficient of the ''White Gold''

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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Just take my no with. SADC Assist.
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Nice informative tread! Thanks to the OP.

    Thumbs up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    I havent seen a Flare Gun in ages, most are self contained individual flares with a trigger mechanism of it's own. Mainly used in nautical environments but can be used on land. There are other nautical electronic devices like EPIRB (Ships) and SART (Life Boats) that will emit an emergency signal with location. Ideal as long as it is attached to or near survivors.

    In military circles and for land use, there are TACBEs used to send a distress signal to aircraft overhead, but I am not sure if these are available for civilian use.

    An EPIRB/SART type function would be ideal to include in a Sat phone though but I dont know if they have this already.
    And there is this, from one of our commercial members:

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...97#post4227497

    2 way Sat messenger with emergency location
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    I havent seen a Flare Gun in ages, most are self contained individual flares with a trigger mechanism of it's own. Mainly used in nautical environments but can be used on land. There are other nautical electronic devices like EPIRB (Ships) and SART (Life Boats) that will emit an emergency signal with location. Ideal as long as it is attached to or near survivors.

    In military circles and for land use, there are TACBEs used to send a distress signal to aircraft overhead, but I am not sure if these are available for civilian use.

    An EPIRB/SART type function would be ideal to include in a Sat phone though but I dont know if they have this already.
    As far as I'm aware, deep sea fishing craft are still equipped with flares. You can probably get hold of those - just be careful when using them, you don't want to set the bush alight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavpike View Post
    As far as I'm aware, deep sea fishing craft are still equipped with flares. You can probably get hold of those - just be careful when using them, you don't want to set the bush alight.
    Indeed, required for seaworthy certification.

    And dont fire them off just because it is new years eve or other celebratory reason
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    I still have a flare kit I bought from a boating supply shop in Durban some years ago when I was still scuba diving. It's an orange capsule that contains 10 small flares and a launch handle. They are similar to the old military pencil flares but made of plastic. When I bought them they wanted a skipper licence before I was aloud to buy the kit but were happy with my scuba credentials and training records. As Estee mentioned, people do stupid things with flares and then complain when they get into trouble for misusing flares.
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Engel View Post
    yes but managed to stay on that one!
    Over THAT Bridge? Yes! Been there done that...Only, when my Cruiser became too fat and nearly fell off, I employed SWAMBO as my guide, and the Cruiser became skinny once more! All of this witnessed by a hoard of tourists on game viewing vehicles... I was certain it would make Youtube?8) There were enough cameras capturing the action!
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    Default Re: Stuck in no man's land-what to have and what to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stoffel View Post
    I do not understand why people would go alone into some god forsaken places, is this not the first rule, to not do it alone?

    There is no 100% certainty that you can get through. One might be 100% certain but only a fool is 100% certain?
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