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    Hi Guys


    Before I bought the Gen 4 I had a thread where I tried to find out the credentials of the Gen 4 Pajero traction control vs the merits of a diff lock. There were very much mixed emotions in this regard.


    So the past weekend I got a chance top eventually (a new born keeps you busy) take the Pajero up Matroosberg to have a braai in the snow. Now I know Matroosberg very well as I go there atleast 6 to 8 times in a snow season. So this was the first time with the Gen 4 GLX 2011 (traction and diff lock) And what an awesome surprise it was. I purposefully left the DL off to push the TC to the limit. I remember one of the previous comments mentioning you need to keep the throttle steady, which was exactly what I did. And apart from disco flashing lights on the dashboard, the system worked unbelieveably effective. I was very impressed.


    I am sure there will come a time where the DL will be your only way out, but the results to me was way over what I expected.


    In the end I need to emphasize.......a Pajero is a phenomenal vehicle and I love every second spent in her.


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    I think we may have told you so
    Glad you are happy.

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    I have recently sold my Gen3 with rear difflock in favour of the newer gen 4 GLS, which is not equipped with rear difflock, as my main touring vehicle. I know I will miss the control that a difflock gives, but my experience was that the TC does a very good job, once you understand how to "drive" it.

    I assume that you did not have a point where the ABS actually overheated and quit on you?

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    Karel

    Please give more information on how and when your TC kicks in. The sound it makes etc. I am still learning how to use my Gen 4's TC properly.
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    Gryskoos,
    1) Disable the skid control first. The SC will rob you of engine power as soon as the sensors see a wheel losing traction. Not something that is always desired. Note: In Low Range SC is automatically disabled. A little orange display on the dash will light-up to indicate the disabled SC.
    2) With SC disabled, only TC is available. TC only monitors individual wheel speed and will activate the brake on any wheel that starts to spin. The brake action is just for a brief moment before it releases the brake to check for grip. If still no grip it will brake again briefly - this process just carries on. On my car I can actually hear the brake gripping and releasing. The corresponding little green wheel on the dashboard will also flash to tell you which wheel is losing traction.
    Prolonged use can cause the brakes to heat up to a point where an alarm sounds and the system turns itself off automatically.
    This has only happened once in my experience during a day of brutal mountain climbing.

    I'll post a pic of that track soon.
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    As promised
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    Thanks Roelf.

    The climb in your pics looks lekker challenging.
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    It is actually the old trade route between the Barberton gold fields and Delagoa Bay. I scouted it as a possible trip for the annual TITD, but my wife convinced me that it was too tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoelfleRoux View Post
    It is actually the old trade route between the Barberton gold fields and Delagoa Bay. I scouted it as a possible trip for the annual TITD, but my wife convinced me that it was too tough.
    Please tell us more!

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    Have you got the trail on a map some where?

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    I will find it on Google Earth. I can looksee this evening and post something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoelfleRoux View Post
    I will find it on Google Earth. I can looksee this evening and post something.
    Thanks!!!

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    Start:
    -25.690210 , 31.293794

    End:
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    See if this will work for you on GE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoelfleRoux View Post
    Start:
    -25.690210 , 31.293794

    End:
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    See if this will work for you on GE.
    Thanks

    Will look!

    If we do it, you have to come with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew bin Achmet View Post
    Thanks

    Will look!

    If we do it, you have to come with!
    Is it easy to access?

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    Haha... not with my softroader again. I'll keep watch over the cooler in the back of your Patrol. Also give me a chance to "consider" the Patrol.

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    Roelf, on the topic of deactivating SC, do you push the ASC button?
    Isn't this meant to deactivate TC also? If not, how would you completely deactivate SC and TC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoelfleRoux View Post
    Haha... not with my softroader again. I'll keep watch over the cooler in the back of your Patrol. Also give me a chance to "consider" the Patrol.
    Its a deal!

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    Matty,
    Pushing the button kills SC, but TC is always active. Only way to kill TC is by pulling the ABS relay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryskoos View Post
    Karel Please give more information on how and when your TC kicks in. The sound it makes etc. I am still learning how to use my Gen 4's TC properly.
    Gryskoos
    It started from the beginning. I engaged low range and it switches off the ASC but the TC stays active. When over worked, it gives an audible beep beep beep. And when seriously overworked it should go beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep and auto seitch off the TC. I had this once, but I have to admit that I drove through every cross axial and slippery rock part I could find. Need to test the odds.
    Everything works well. You maybe need to go to a daytrip area and play around with your various settings and test it out.

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