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    Default Stripping of Mozambique forests

    This article just makes my blood boil, I am no tree hugger but this is ridiculous. I see these trucks daily here in Nacala, Worked in Beira a while back and the amount of log trucks there is crazy. I have noticed the size of the logs are also getting smaller over the last 2 decades.

    The frustrating thing is that there is no attempt to stop this because everyone get's a cut.


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    It is an absolute disgrace - I first wrote about it back in 1996, when the trees going out were huge. As you say, they are getting smaller and smaller as the deforestation accelerates. The environmental consquences in terms of loss of habitat, and the effect this will have on flood control, is devastating.

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    Destroy till it is all gone, then stick your hand out for donations!!! That is how their minds work!!!
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    This has been happening for many years in many African countries. We normally only hear about the roads, bridges etc that are being constructed by foreigners and very little is said or done about what these same foreigners are taking out of these countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rodneykdc View Post
    Normal African modus operandi , as long as their stomachs are full now & stuff tomorrow
    Dammit, I was going to say this.
    It's evidend everywhere in africa, and very much here. Build up, strip, burn, compact the ground, blame government for fire and flood, then have them buy you a house on land you never owned, rinse repeat.

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    I have been up north (Tanzanian border) for a year now and it's no better up here. It is really bad, I see 4x4 trucks on a daily basis just cutting down trees by the hundreds.There seems to be no control or lack of concern and most certainly no replanting, just a constant felling 365 days a year. It's a sad situation and one I have discussed may times before.

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    What is even worse is the blatant arrogant attitude of the oxygen thief (in more than one way) who obviously know he is untouchable.

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    Nature conservation wise Moz is a lost cause. The country is actually beyond saving. The major problem is no private ownership of land and no associated basic human rights protected by law. In such an environment true democracy is quite simply not possible. The people do not have a voice back-up up by land ownership, the ability to secure capital based thereon, associated private wealth and associated private power and influence. In essence this renders the population indivually and collectively powerless. That also = no voice and influence re conservation.

    It is still, at a basic fundamental level, a remnant throw-back communist experiment, sitting in pathetic isolation when the rest of the world is very quickly moving on from the whole failed communist phenomenon. Its a bit like an isolated communist Jurassic Park. A bit of a weird curiosity if you will.

    The State owns all land = the ruling party owns all land. They can do exactly what they want with any and all land in their own selfish personal economic interests. Sure there is the possibility of 99 yr lease hold etc but only effectively at the pleasure of the ruling party and to the extent that it suits their interests.

    In these circumstances it is an effective dictatorship and the present one will only be overthrown through internal military revolution as may become possible. If that happens at any time and whoever wins maintains the same system, then the same situation will just continue.

    At present It appears that it is only when Moz becomes a wasteland with nothing of any real value left to plunder and it is abandoned and left to the impoverished who remain behind, that the chance of a fledgling democracy based on private ownership of land may be possible and the natural world may be given a chance to re-establish itself. In the mean time it's neighbours better guard their their borders and build "the wall".

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    Nature conservation wise Moz is a lost cause. The country is actually beyond saving. The major problem is no private ownership of land and no associated basic human rights protected by law. In such an environment true democracy is quite simply not possible. The people do not have a voice back-up up by land ownership, the ability to secure capital based thereon, associated private wealth and associated private power and influence. In essence this renders the population indivually and collectively powerless. That also = no voice and influence re conservation.

    It is still, at a basic fundamental level, a remnant throw-back communist experiment, sitting in pathetic isolation when the rest of the world is very quickly moving on from the whole failed communist phenomenon. Its a bit like an isolated communist Jurassic Park. A bit of a weird curiosity if you will.

    The State owns all land = the ruling party owns all land. They can do exactly what they want with any and all land in their own selfish personal economic interests. Sure there is the possibility of 99 yr lease hold etc but only effectively at the pleasure of the ruling party and to the extent that it suits their interests.

    In these circumstances it is an effective dictatorship and the present one will only be overthrown through internal military revolution as may become possible. If that happens at any time and whoever wins maintains the same system, then the same situation will just continue.

    At present It appears that it is only when Moz becomes a wasteland with nothing of any real value left to plunder and it is abandoned and left to the impoverished who remain behind, that the chance of a fledgling democracy based on private ownership of land may be possible and the natural world may be given a chance to re-establish itself. In the mean time it's neighbours better guard their their borders and build "the wall".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadman View Post
    Nature conservation wise Moz is a lost cause. The country is actually beyond saving.
    Have you looked at what is happening in the Quirimbas? And in Gorongosa? And in Niassa, which despite being under siege by poachers, has an amazing biodiversity and richness of wildlife?
    Yes, the deforestation is appalling, and I have written extensively on the subject. But to write the whole country off is counter-productive. Let us support the very valiant efforts that are being made by the conservation officials who are on the ground and doing great work.

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    Anyone who wants to try in the current situation to support conservation efforts there are obviously welcome to to try but the essential foundation stones for the prervation, protection and building upon such efforts are not there. A couple of rangers with a few old bakkies paid meagre salaries and carrying some rusty AK 47s effectively abandonded to face a world of social turmoil, impoverishment and corruption surrounding them is not going to cut it.

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    Anyone who wants to try in the current situation to support conservation efforts there are obviously welcome to to try but the essential foundation stones for the prervation, protection and building upon such efforts are not there. A couple of rangers with a few old bakkies paid meagre salaries and carrying some rusty AK 47s effectively abandonded to face a world of social turmoil, impoverishment and corruption surrounding them is not going to cut it.

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    reminds me of the wanton destruction of hardwoods in the Caprivi... beautiful trees cut down to cook on, or carve trinkets for the passing tourists..

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    IN addition to observations above, from posts on the forum -I understand that the opposition in Moz whose support base is in the north, proposed a bill designed to create or create more, autonomy re the northern provinces managing their own affairs. It is quite apparent that this is practically necessary and reasonable. The Govt of the day has now rejected this Bill. Sabre rattling has commenced.

    In the Caprivi there are long standing and still current secessionist aspirations, a history of quelled rebellions, refugees fleeing and treason trials. A least one website advocating secession has recently suggested that resort once again to armed rebellion may be the only solution. The Namibian govt meanwhile keeps the Caprivi in an impoverished state as confirmed in a UN report clearly in fear of doing anything else. Meanwhile campers at Ihaha get robbed and constant security patrols are necessary. Lodge owners in the Caprivi (who still try) are forced to take regular action against constant indiscriminate gill netting in the rivers.

    All I am saying is that most tragically these are hardly environments conducive to sustainable conservation efforts in these areas.

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    What makes me de moer in is that the majority of the poachers of rhino horn comes from Mozambique. They have exterminated their own rhino populations and when their forests are gone, they will probably look to SA for further supplies. Why can't these people protect their own natural assets instead of consuming everything. When all is gone, they will sit on the tarmac of an airfield, waiting (with a couple of babies in the arms) for UNICEF to provide food.

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    when it comes to Moz, believe me, the root cause of all the problems is no private ownership of land.

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    Some positive action in this regard-one hopes strict enforcement will follow:

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    (2015-11-26) The government has banned all exports of raw timber logs for the next two years, and suspended the logging of certain species such as the ironwood tree, a favourite of charcoal producers, for five years.

    The measure is part of the forestry reform programme presented yesterday at a press conference in Maputo by the Minister of Land, Environment and Rural Development, Celso Correia.

    Correia believes that the approved package of measures will help arrest the high deforestation levels in the country. The measure comes into effect immediately and forestry operators will be monitored rigorously to ensure they comply with the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick L View Post
    The government has banned all exports of raw timber logs for the next two years, and suspended the logging of certain species such as the ironwood tree, a favourite of charcoal producers, for five years.

    The measure is part of the forestry reform programme presented yesterday at a press conference in Maputo by the Minister of Land, Environment and Rural Development, Celso Correia.

    Correia believes that the approved package of measures will help arrest the high deforestation levels in the country. The measure comes into effect immediately and forestry operators will be monitored rigorously to ensure they comply with the rules.
    That's excellent news - let's hope the will is there to enforce it. The Chinese won't be happy.

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    And the U.N. cleaned out Ihla De Mozambique in 1994. The fort on the Island had an amazing collection of muskets, pin guns and all sorts a lot of antiques from the Governors old residence also vanished.
    All that was left a year later was the old canons lining the parapets even the old shot and canon balls were carried away.

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