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    Default Mozambique, the country where tourists are punished for their economy…

    So we returned from our self-drive trip to Chidenguele, great country, great beaches, great roads, but...

    After being well prepared I was still surprized by the opportunistic citizens of Mozambique and thought a warning to future travellers would be a good idea;

    The border officials and runners work together, they intentionally did not issue a gate pass at the South African side and then indicated I should proceed to the immigration office. Because of this gate pass a runner with ID... was appointed and I end up paying R600 to get all paperwork done. This after we decided not to use runners and would do everything ourselves

    On return to SA the GM at our lodge warned us about a speed trap in Chizavane, obeying the speed limits anyway, I even decided to set the speed cruise on 55km/h. I was still stopped and the cop claimed a 82km/h speed, the reading was cleared and the negotiations started. Having my wife and 9year old in the car I ended up paying a R50 "contribution" (against my will) to leave

    In Xai-Xai at the Engen garage the fill-up was 1800 MT and the attendant tried to issue a 1000 Mt more on my card... Check your pump readings!

    Just before the Moamba toll gate yet another cop did not seize the opportunity to do a "routine stop". We were too well prepared for this rude cop and he let us go with a warning that the medium sized crate on the back seat (not obstructing my view in any way) was illegal as it is not a passenger ....

    If 1st time travellers to this beautiful country, be prepared to deal with their corrupt cops and become "Africa streetwise"... Or stay AWAY!
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    I will never go to Mozambique again rather spend my money locally.

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    I agree, I will never return!!!

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    Good.
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Those rip-off artists/police seem to ply their trade only or mainly in the tourist regions of the southern part of Moz. Our experience regarding police officials in northern Moz was always pleasant. They were amiable and helpful there, most often cracking jokes which we could hardly follow.
    South of Beira we were shocked by the change in police behavior.
    Our displays of anger put them off when we realized their intentions to collect money for no infractions at all.
    Standing our ground was the way to handle these would-be thieves.
    But lucky for us that we had no children along.
    But aahhhhh, there is no place like Africa!!!!

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    I have mentioned it before on this Forum that I only go to Moz on business and will not go there on holiday due to bribery etc. When there on business, I arrange a local driver with his car for the duration of my stay and this works well.

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    My family and I also had it with Moz.....we will never return there unless they change their attitude and get rid of those criminals they call police! If I have to go I will fly in and fly out!
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    HKing, some of us are of the opinion that an ZA 4x4 with all the visible accessories are "magnets" to moz opportunists. Did you have such a rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald_D View Post
    HKing, some of us are of the opinion that an ZA 4x4 with all the visible accessories are "magnets" to moz opportunists. Did you have such a rig?
    This is not acceptable. I will not go touring in Moz...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    Good.
    Please explain your comment. Don't understand.

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    The more of the beautiful beaches i have to myself the better . I have had too many holidays spoilt because of inconsiderate tourists so the quiter the better. Also the less people feeding the corruption there the less there will be. The old days were much better before the masses started going.
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    The more of the beautiful beaches i have to myself the better . I have had too many holidays spoilt because of inconsiderate tourists so the quiter the better. Also the less people feeding the corruption there the less there will be. The old days were much better before the masses started going.
    I suppose that is one way to look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    The more of the beautiful beaches i have to myself the better . I have had too many holidays spoilt because of inconsiderate tourists so the quiter the better. Also the less people feeding the corruption there the less there will be. The old days were much better before the masses started going.
    Piet jy is n selfsugtige mens of hoe?

    Moz is the most unfriendliest country and CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koos Best View Post
    Piet jy is n selfsugtige mens of hoe?

    Moz is the most unfriendliest country and CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nee dankie, nie weer nie.
    Haha. Ja ok seker maar so. Dit bly steeds lekker om op stil plekke vakansie te hou. Dis hoekom ons nie Sodwana toe gaan in Desember nie
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    Loved going there in my younger (pre-kids) days, but simply cant take risks like this with little ones in the car...will miss Moz but simply not worth it...

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    I often travel for business there, and get a local driver. We have very few problems.

    The reality is that many of our fellow South Africans behave very badly in the Moz tourist areas, driving poorly, fast through villages, looking comparatively wealthy, and acting as if we are owed something, because we bring cash. You can't drag a trailer with R500k of "toys", kicking up dust through a village, without it being observed and commented on! More money on a non-productive toy or vehicle, than many villagers will earn in a lifetime.

    The collective response to this is a form of - "I don't like you doing this in my country , but I'll find ways of taking your money so that it feels better"

    Its probably too late, but more respect and humility from us visitors, would probably, in time, result in more respect from the authorities.

    I have driven though most of South and east Africa in my vehicle, but because of this, I won't do this again in Moz, especially during holiday season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew D View Post
    I often travel for business there, and get a local driver. We have very few problems.

    The reality is that many of our fellow South Africans behave very badly in the Moz tourist areas, driving poorly, fast through villages, looking comparatively wealthy, and acting as if we are owed something, because we bring cash. You can't drag a trailer with R500k of "toys", kicking up dust through a village, without it being observed and commented on! More money on a non-productive toy or vehicle, than many villagers will earn in a lifetime.

    The collective response to this is a form of - "I don't like you doing this in my country , but I'll find ways of taking your money so that it feels better"

    Its probably too late, but more respect and humility from us visitors, would probably, in time, result in more respect from the authorities.

    I have driven though most of South and east Africa in my vehicle, but because of this, I won't do this again in Moz, especially during holiday season.



    Agreed 100%. There is an age old divide between the Have's and the Have Not's in Africa, regardless of race and gender.

    We, as SA tourists, do not illicit any sympathy from the local population when we get ripped off by the police in their villages, because we are deemed to be wealthy enough to afford handing out and sharing this perceived wealth. That attitude is WRONG. A misdirected Robin Hood mentality, sanctioned by local law enforcement.


    I enjoy Moz immensely and I will again pass through some parts of the country during my upcoming trip, but this is always done with a sense of trepidation. However, as soon as one lays his eyes on those palm trees and white sands, the rigors of the journey is oft forgotten.

    We either deal with the Cops(refuse to bribe, but I do understand its sometimes difficult to argue with a Kalashnikov), or we visit Moz out of season. Still, the best beaches on the sub continent.

    I respect that some people choose to avoid Moz, because they have their families with them on holiday.

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    I have been to Moz quite a few times and never had any of this issues. From The south border to Pangane north of Pemba, from Pemba to Niassa Park, Lake Malawi on Moz side into Malawi, back from Malawi over Tete to Vilanculos and many more trips to Pomene, Paindane, Bilene, Maputo Elephant reserve and Ponta Malongane.

    I always take off my sunglasses and greet friendly when stopped. At Komatipoort border you get people taking chances but just say no and make sure you get everything. Insurance I buy before the time at Outdoor Warehouse or the AA and I make sure that I have some Meticals and my vehicle's papers. In towns I drive slow and try to fall in behind a truck.

    I will certainly go everytime when I can but am also a bit selfish and prefer the quiet Elephant Reserve and the northern part with Pangane at Hashim's place a great favourite.

    Am just back from a trip to Liuwa Plains and Kafue. Went 10 times through a border post, SA to Bots, Bots to Nam, Nam to Zam, Zam to Zim and Zim to SA. Was only asked to open the canopy at the first stop in SA to Bots. They say, oh camping stuff and off we go. In 5300km was stopped at one police blockade in Zim for a quick friendly chat. Not a hint at bribes except at Beitbridge on the Zim side after finishing with my border formalities and on my way to police inspection I was escorted to the car and the amount of USD 40 was asked to move to the short queue, not that I saw any queue at 15h00 on a Thursday afternoon. I said for what, will I get an invoice? No but USD 20 will be ok. I said I don't do bribes but lets go to the police and ask if this is valid. Sir, get in your car and drive to the front which I did and was out with no further issues.

    So if they catch you it normally is due to your own stupidity.
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