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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlak_Vark View Post
    Seeing that the Jimny is so light has anybody considered a hand winch for that once a year requirement?
    I have thought of this. Do you have any examples or are you talking about the ones used on boat trailers?

    A 4500lb pound winch is not that heavy, 10.3kg according to this website http://www.tjm.com.au/en/product/tjm...tion=node/2743. It is classified as an ATV winch and has a nylon rope and fairlead. You'll hardly notice 10kg on the front of your jimny.

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    If I had a few bucks it would be on my 2 do list for sure, what do they go for, about 5k I assume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay4 View Post
    If I had a few bucks it would be on my 2 do list for sure, what do they go for, about 5k I assume?
    http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bakk...40910002623509

    have a look at the link. I bought the 6000LBS one for my SJ.

    very reasonable prices and they do deliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay4 View Post
    If I had a few bucks it would be on my 2 do list for sure, what do they go for, about 5k I assume?
    A Tmax 4500lb goes for R4600 without fitment (Just spoke to the salesman). He says though that 4500lb is too light for a Jimny and recommends a 6500lb (3t), because the motor and cable is very light on the 4500lb. What says the experts?

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    The thing is that a Tmax 6500lb winch weighs 30kg.
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    Okay, so after looking at the difference between the two winches (Tmax 6000 Pro ATV vs Tmax 6500 Offroad series) the following differences are noted:

    Rated line pull (single line)

    6000 ATV Pro vs. 6500 Series
    6000lb (2720kg) : 6500lb (2954kg) - Rated line pull (single Line)
    12.5kg : 30kg - Weight
    1.4kw perm. magnet : 5.5kw Series wound - Motor output and type
    7.5mmx15m Dyneema Synth rope : 7.2mmx24m steel cable
    189:1 gear ratio : 172:1gear ratio

    So in theory they should be able to do the same work (more or less) but I don't think that the ATV pro would manage heavy duty stuff. It would be more for self recovery (and maybe a snatch block would be mandatory). What helps though is the 20 odd kg savings in weight and the saving on associated size. The ATV is also much slower (half the line speed) than the 6500. So slow and steady with the ATV vs fast and with brute strength on the 6500.

    P.S. I compared the 6000lb ATV to the 6500lb Offroad series to compare apples with apples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlak_Vark View Post
    Seeing that the Jimny is so light has anybody considered a hand winch for that once a year requirement?
    I bought a 4 ton lever puller... Nice a compact. Took it on a trip to Botswana where I got properly stuck. If it weren't for my own stupidity where I jammed it, it would have done the job just fine. Also gives you the option of hooking up to the back side etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusT View Post
    Okay, so after looking at the difference between the two winches (Tmax 6000 Pro ATV vs Tmax 6500 Offroad series)
    Any indication on price difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Christianvdm View Post
    I bought a 4 ton lever puller... Nice a compact. Took it on a trip to Botswana where I got properly stuck. If it weren't for my own stupidity where I jammed it, it would have done the job just fine. Also gives you the option of hooking up to the back side etc...
    Never thought of what an added benefit it would be to also be able to hook it to the back.
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    The 6000lb ATV is about R6000 and the 6500lb Offroad Series (steel cable) is about R5600. So not a big difference. You could always have a removable winch mount made that fits on you towbar as well in case backwards is the only way out.

    My friend's dad was a PH and he used to drive a 4x2 hilux with a winch on the back bumper. When I asked him why he said if you get stuck you know you can always go back since you just came from there. Makes sense to me.

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    Go back a couple of posts and read what Eric has to say. He knows what he is talking about.
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    Thanks Saxj,

    Hi Gents, be very careful here!!

    The winches you refer to here (5.5KW with series wound DC motors) are an issue on a Jimny due to the current draw required. The electric motors on these winches draw some 400 Amps + (more than twice that of the starter motor) to reach the rated pull specifications. The Jimny's electrical system with a 35A alternator and a 40AH battery cannot deliver this level of current for very long without serious overloading and possible damage.

    It is far more efficient, and less taxing on the vehicles electrical system to buy a smaller winch with a permanent magnet motor (2500lb - 5000lb) and use a snatch block to increase the pull as required.

    My KEW 5000 (a clone of the Ramsey REP5000) has a permanent magnet motor and only draws 230A at full load of 5000lb.

    With my snatch block I can winch anything out there that we may encountered on a trail. Yes if you do assist in the recovery of a larger vehicle you will need an anchor behind you to prevent dragging the Jimny into the problem. But if you are careful you can use the Jimny simply as a winching platform in this configuration.

    A winch is only as capable as the electrical current that it can draw....
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    Good post, thanks Eric
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    Thanks Eric, that's really informative.

    It seems I've encountered another problem. The facelift Jimny can't accommodate a winch without an integrated bumper. Not even wizerds winch plate would suffice as there's apparently no infrastructure to mount it to in the facelift model.

    So that means, as a short term solution, the hand winch model will have to do.
    I'll start searching for options and advise on what I could find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    Go back a couple of posts and read what Eric has to say. He knows what he is talking about.
    Thanks Sax, read it and I concur. If I were ever to buy a winch it would be a permanent magnet type 4500lb. Was simply comparing the winches with the one 4x4MW said to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusT View Post
    Thanks Sax, read it and I concur. If I were ever to buy a winch it would be a permanent magnet type 4500lb. Was simply comparing the winches with the one 4x4MW said to use.
    I would trust Eric's judgement over all of the aftermarket equipment installers in the country put together.
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    This is a two part question-
    1- Can you use a hand crank boat-type winch for recovery or at least assisting in a recovery?
    2- If yes to 1: How would you mount it if you have a crank to swing around? (with the bumper and all being there)
    3- (I lied about the 2-part question) If there's a solution to 2:Would this winch work: LINK
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    I bought a mean green 2.5t hand winch for R1500.00 a while ago. Click image for larger version. 

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    I never used it before but I don't have to have the extra weight of a winch 24/7.

    I only tested it and was very happy. Jimny was in 1st gear and the handbrake on. I pulled the Jimny as if it was nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxj View Post
    I would trust Eric's judgement over all of the aftermarket equipment installers in the country put together.
    Definitely, (Oom) Eric has long forgotten what I still need to learn.

    I like that hand winch idea. Could have used that a few times already. I like that you can use anywhere not just to go forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzer244 View Post
    I bought a mean green 2.5t hand winch for R1500.00 a while ago.

    I never used it before but I don't have to have the extra weight of a winch 24/7.

    I only tested it and was very happy. Jimny was in 1st gear and the handbrake on. I pulled the Jimny as if it was nothing.
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    That's exactly what I was thinking about!! and at R1500 allot cheaper than any permanent winch solution. Where did you purchase it from?
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    What does that thing weigh bud?

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