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    Actually maybe not a bad idea, always wanted to know if I had a LSD.
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    Long time since I researched this:

    C200 - removable rear diff cover, 8 bolts.

    C200 was maximum 4.875:1
    Mostly 4.625:1 as I said earlier, sometimes 4.11 on the 4x2s.

    ARB lockers are available for the older 30 spline C200's .

    C200B rear axle usually implies R180A or at the most R200A front axle.

    If it's the R200A, it will have a similar 8-bolt removable cover. If not, it is the R180A (The A designates an offset carrier: early 720s had a centered front carrier! )

    No lockers available for the R180.

    If you're going to check the ratio before we SFA:
    Just under 4 1/2 turns will indicate the 4.375:1 gears. Just a bit over 4 1/2 turns would indicate 4.625:1 or 4.636:1 gearing. If you have a late model, just a tick under 5 turns of the DS would indicate 4.90 gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfreesani View Post
    Ander probleem wat ek met gearmax, is dat hulle diff iets soos 75mm nouer as die standaard Nissan een is.
    yes, my 4x2 Sani Mk3 with TD27 was a Gearmax M75 and it was definitely narrower at the back. Looked like a Land Cruiser, pretty stupid really.
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    How did you even fit tyres on there? Or do they come with deeper offset rims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfreesani View Post
    How did you even fit tyres on there? Or do they come with deeper offset rims?
    245/75-16 would rub at the back if laden or articulating. Luckily 4x2 and mostly unladen, so JUST cleared.

    Standard tyres were 215c-16 for exactly that reason. I never tried 235/85-16 to see if I could get height with less width, I didn't know about those or the 7.50x16 crossplies at that stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfreesani View Post
    Peter, these are things that I have wondered about, but as I mentioned, I can't fit things on paper and see how they go together. I would typically build and "adapt" to try and make things fit, and then obviously wonder about the stress points and how the design is probably flawed.

    Original steering components would only be the steering box and the pitman arms on the hubs. The steering arm and draglink/tierod between the hubs will be as a normal solid axle setup.

    Only other "floppy" bits to be kept, would be the ball joints (where the hubs normally attached to the upper and lower control arms), to the new frame.

    Clearance, I have no idea how much space I will have under the sump and everything else once the IFS bits have been removed from the chassis.

    My only problem that I have so far measured, is that the draglink between the hub pitman arms, would have to pass through the existing front loop mounting point of the diff. Normal diffs do not have this loop, but it does provide for a nice sturdy fixing point to the frame/brace.

    As far as the difference between front and rear height goes, I would only be interested in lifting the rear so as to keep the vehicle level. As for getting the same clearance, I would be happy to live with the same scenario I presently have where the IFS is giving us more clearance than the rear anyway.

    Sorry, it's just something that has been tickling me for ages, I suppose, until I prove it, or it gets proven to me, I will always wonder if it would have been possible in the fairly conservative setup we are wanting.
    David, seems like a huge amount of effort to gain actaully nothing.
    I am also prepared to bet that you will need to lift it at least six inches just to fit that axle. Remember, unlike the IFS setup, the diff will now move during articulation, and you really need at least 4-6" of upwards articulation from the static position. But because the bracing makes the axle so much larger, you are probably looking at another 4" or so. All this for a 30mm increase in front ground clearance over the nearest available normal live axle, and no increase in ground clearance because the rear axle is remaining the same.

    The weak bits I am talking about include things like the CV joints too.

    Honestly, I like fiddling in the garage as much as the next guy, but I think your best option here is just to patch and sell the Sani and get an older Patrol instead, or possibly even a Safari.
    1996 Patrol 4.2SGL with lots of stuff to make it heavier and thus increase traction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Connan View Post

    Honestly, I like fiddling in the garage as much as the next guy, but I think your best option here is just to patch and sell the Sani and get an older Patrol instead, or possibly even a Safari.
    David, Het jy al oorweeg om die safari roete te gaan?

    Ek het 5 min terug een gekoop met nuut gedoende top, en nuut gespray, vir nie berl meer as die budgetvir die rebuild.

    Netjammer dit is 2.8 petrol, vir daily, maar ek gaan speel so dit is ok vir my😄
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    Darvoor koop jy n kompleet safari, nie net die diffs en transfer case nie😉
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    Behalwe nou vir die sentiment agter die Sani, al waarvoor ek nog sal gaan is a diesel.

    Het al my pad geloop met Nissan petrols (en baie geniet), maar kan nie meer petrol karre bekostig nie.

    As jy enigsins die grote voertuie wil geniet wat die Sani of Patrol is, moet dit diesel wees. My ou Skyline sou my nou dood maak met sy 6-8km/l. Patrol weet ek ook is nie lig nie.

    Elke geval, Safari gaan groot demotion wees in die kajuit gemak departement, en die Sani se stasiewa spasie sal gemis word. So Patrol is die in ding, en ek kan dit nie bekostig nie.


    Elke geval, ek het toe na die diff gekyk van middag.

    Amper 5 propshaft na een wiel se draai. Hier is die merke tussen waar ek kom en vyf draaie.



    39 tande op die crownwheel.

    Moet sÍ die diff lyk vir my nog baie goed. Net so effe grys skynsel op die magneet, nie een stuk metaal nie en die olie perfek skoon.

    Daai diff se olie is laas vervang toe ons die motor vervang het. Daarna het ek paar keer vir water gekyk. Oor dat ek gewoonlik met gat redelik in die lig vol maak, was daar altyd genoeg (effe oor vol miskien) olie.

    Toe kry die diff nuwe olie vir eerste keer in van Maart/April 2008 na so 160K km. Hopelik lyk die voor diff ook so goed

    Hier nog paar prentjies...







    En dis toe nie LSD nie. So die LSX olie was seker ook maar bietjie over kill gewees, maar ek is bly ek het dit wel in gesit al daai jare terug.
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    David/Hillbilly - 1997 SFA Nissan Sani 2,7 TD - 5" lift on 33" tires - Dual Transfer with 4.1 gears

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    39 op crown, 8 op pinion, 4.875:1 ratio, selfde as hilux.

    Hilux ook 6 gat, so geen ander rims, jy kan daai perfekte agteras net so hou. David, ek weet nie, maar hilux as klink net maklik en goedkoop. Het netnou prys gevra op hilux box, R6500. Of ons kan addisioneel 2de divorsed t/c gaan en jou box hou, en dan sit jy met 20 vorentoe en 4 reverse opsies😃.
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    Wat gaan goedkoper uitwerk?

    Hou weer van die idee om nissan box te hou. Anders vervang box met 2x4 box en las transfer case aan vir regs drop.

    Krawler gears kan ook lekker wees.

    Opsies opsies opsies.

    Eintlik goedkoopste gaan wees net regs drop transfer agter aan las. Propshafts oor doen en voor diff vervang.

    Anders sit ons met adapter plate vir ratkas. Hoop daars nie issues met clutch nie. Dan hoop gearlevers werk in bestaande gat.
    Wat gaan drie nuwe propshafts kos. Agterste een gaan seker double carden moet kry. Hy gaan vreeslik kort wees

    Nee man. Nou weet ek nie.
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    Ek het hilux box op td27 met gilo adaper (R1500) in myne. Is asif dit van syma kom, clutch perfek, gearleavers perfek.

    Maar, dan kan ons n regs drop t/c van hilux optel vir R1000, en net agter jou gearbox bylas, dan nie nodig vir gearbox en adaptor koop.

    Wat prop betref, die 2de t/c vervang net die kort stukkie propshaft en centre bearing (jy haat elkgeval die ding), so behoort nie veel op agter angle te doen, gaan egter die voor prop angle baie verbeter want nou is hy langer.

    Effens duur ding is die slipjoint wat ons nou sal moet opmaak op prop, want toy box se prop bout vas met inline slipjoint.

    So, R4000 ( miskien R2000), vir vooras, R1000 vir t/c ( miskien verniet), bladvere en propshafts ( sal elkgeval opgemaak moet word, maak nie saak watter roete).
    So, onder R10000 alles en alles. Vir n super crawler met 100:1 ratio😳
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    TX10 standaard transfer case het slipjoint op output shaft.

    Ek dink een universal tussen transfer cases en hulle kan slip in nissan box.

    Ek het al die centre bearing uit gesny. Voor prop het slipjoint. Maar ek dink hy mag bietjie kort wees.
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    Oops wag. Voor prop is toyota alby kante. Maar is miskien breikbaar om die nuwe voor prop te maak anyway.
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    Of wat van tube swop te doen op die toy as en hom net weer links te maak op die pampoen.

    Engineering koste op daai een ding werk miskien beter uit as ekstra tranfer case en een minder propshaft en dan die werk van die rat kirries uitsort.

    Dink maar net.
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    As mens die tube swop doen is dit n baie eenvoudige build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    As mens die tube swop doen is dit n baie eenvoudige build.
    Tube swop kan gedoen word as mens versigtig werk. Die center carrier word net omgedraai, ek dink een of 2 nuwe gaatjies op die housing?

    Dan kan jy terselfdetyd die castor regmaak vir die bladveer lift?

    Maar die sny & sweis is nie vir sissies nie. Of vir sussies nie.

    Maar miskien is ons te slim.

    "Maar, dan kan ons n regs drop t/c van hilux optel vir R1000, en net agter jou gearbox bylas, dan nie nodig vir gearbox en adaptor koop."

    TX10 to second divorced t-case. Use bracket with cable operated lever system for second t-case, then you can put the selector lever anywhere.
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    as mens iemand kry wat die tube swop kan reg doen is dit maklik, ek gaan nie pobeer, nie lus vir n leeftyd se probleme.

    bietjie duurder, maar heel maklikste en vinnigste is nog steeds die gearbox swop. Om daai 2de t/c in te pas is ook maar nog n jobbie.
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    OK het jy 'n goeie 5-spoed Lux ratkas?

    Dawie se ratkas was anyway ook op pad uit. Seker 5 keer al reggemaak.

    Die Delports het laas daar "gespeel".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    OK het jy 'n goeie 5-spoed Lux ratkas?

    Dawie se ratkas was anyway ook op pad uit. Seker 5 keer al reggemaak.

    Die Delports het laas daar "gespeel".
    Eintlik nie, die ratkas wat probleme gegee het lÍ daar in jou stoor in stukke, saam met volledige en werkende TX10 case wat ek hou as spare. Wou al lankal terug daai TX10 se "gate plaat" kom haal. My transfer case kom so nou en dan uit rat uit.

    Die kombinasie wat ek nou het is heel goed. Ek kyk goed na hom. Ry nooit onder so 90km/h in 5de nie. Sleep nie in 5de nie.

    Self my vrou weet jy kry hom so gou moontlik in 4de en ry die dorp plat.

    Daar is niks fout met diť ene nie...
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