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    Default GV Cracked engine vs the mechanical experts...

    So...
    Not a mechanical expert and looking for some logical explanations.
    I recently cracked my engine. (two weeks ago) Was driving and noticed the spike on the heat gauge.

    Normally I check oil and water once a month so barring this how would this happen as per the experts?
    Coincidentally, when I got the car to the dealer the exact same model with almost exact km on the engine had just had the same problem.

    Estimated cost just short of 80k (new engine, man hours etc)

    Shall I write this off as a "just bad luck" or has anyone else had a similar experience?

    P.S.
    Mechanic did mention that he's only seen it three times in the couple of years he's been at the dealer. Two of these being me and the other above mentioned GV which happened at the same time. Both our models being 2009 with just over 115 on the clock.

    Any thoughts on what could cause this? Or did I just have a manufacturing glitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappie View Post
    So...
    Not a mechanical expert and looking for some logical explanations.
    I recently cracked my engine. (two weeks ago) Was driving and noticed the spike on the heat gauge.

    Normally I check oil and water once a month so barring this how would this happen as per the experts?
    Coincidentally, when I got the car to the dealer the exact same model with almost exact km on the engine had just had the same problem.

    Estimated cost just short of 80k (new engine, man hours etc)

    Shall I write this off as a "just bad luck" or has anyone else had a similar experience?

    P.S.
    Mechanic did mention that he's only seen it three times in the couple of years he's been at the dealer. Two of these being me and the other above mentioned GV which happened at the same time. Both our models being 2009 with just over 115 on the clock.

    Any thoughts on what could cause this? Or did I just have a manufacturing glitch?
    JOH!!! First that I have heard of this. Every manufacturer has their problems. I think this is very uncommon though
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    Not to worry, I will be getting another one once this one is fixed

    The 2009 model I originally bought second hand, so one doesnt know what it's been through. Had some dings and dents and under certain lighting conditions I could swear it looked like the right front bumper's colour was not matched to the rest. Maybe it had a interesting life before me, who knows.

    I'm writing it off as a dud.
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    put a used engine in
    about 8k from the jap yards
    2k for fiddle and faff on licencing papers
    job done

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    Thanks, at least there's work arounds. Still would like to now how it just happens through.
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    I assume you mean the engine block? Where about?

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    crack where about? can take it from there what might of been the cause...

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    Block ja.
    Mechanic said at the back theres 2 cracks.
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    Busy discussing options with the dealership... looking positive sofar.
    Trust Suzuki to help a guy :-)
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    Thats really sad news Kappie. I hope you get this sorted soon!
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    Hmm that's interesting and unfortunate
    I know that the rear cylinders usually run hotter, perhaps that combined with a slight flaw could cause issues :-/
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    Sorry to hear. I hope it comes in at way below 80k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kappie View Post
    So...
    Not a mechanical expert and looking for some logical explanations.
    I recently cracked my engine. (two weeks ago) Was driving and noticed the spike on the heat gauge.

    Normally I check oil and water once a month so barring this how would this happen as per the experts?
    Coincidentally, when I got the car to the dealer the exact same model with almost exact km on the engine had just had the same problem.

    Estimated cost just short of 80k (new engine, man hours etc)

    Shall I write this off as a "just bad luck" or has anyone else had a similar experience?

    P.S.
    Mechanic did mention that he's only seen it three times in the couple of years he's been at the dealer. Two of these being me and the other above mentioned GV which happened at the same time. Both our models being 2009 with just over 115 on the clock.

    Any thoughts on what could cause this? Or did I just have a manufacturing glitch?
    It's a known issue on the older 2.4's it's a flaw in the engine design. My opinion is that Suzuki should pay for the entire repair.

    Later engines have thicker bracing in the area that cracks.
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    Jip like Saxj said , guy that works with me had the same issue , after a long struggle with Suzuki SA they said they would pay for the parts and he had to pay for the labour
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    engine block crack is usually metal fatigue due to a tiny flaw that is impossible to predict unless you go through the effort (like Ferrari and bentley with their super expensive models) of using uv dip and xray techniques to look for flaws in the casting.

    Probably just a dud.

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    Been there, also had a cracked block in my 2008 2,4 A/T was replaced by SASA as a goodwill claim, can't recall the mileage without pulling out the invoice (of which they gave me a copy- 40k repair).
    Took 6 weeks to find a replacement block, I think it eventually came from A stock yard in Germany).
    I was about the 10th GV to have had this issue in SA, there was a batch from the production line that had an inferior short block, of which about 20 odd came to SA.

    Since then no issues whatsoever.
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    saxj when you say later models had extra bracing, what years are you referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColeGP View Post
    saxj when you say later models had extra bracing, what years are you referring to?
    As far as I know, the problem only affects 2008 and early 2009 models.
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    Dear Kappie.. It would appear that only a limited number of 2.4's out of a specific batch from of 08/09 had this issue. Why don't you trade in your 2.4 on a 3.2. That way you will be secure in the knowledge that it won't happen again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kierie View Post
    Dear Kappie.. It would appear that only a limited number of 2.4's out of a specific batch from of 08/09 had this issue. Why don't you trade in your 2.4 on a 3.2. That way you will be secure in the knowledge that it won't happen again!
    I love the 3.2 V6 Man that sound is sexy.

    But I've got my eye on a 2012 model thats sitting at the same dealer.36k on the clock. Busy discussing the options with them and they're very open to a bit of give and take. Will know shortly what the total will come to between my GV versus the 2012.

    Will know by end of the week.

    So, from what I can gather. There were 20 duds that came into the country and I was one of the lucky guys. Ok, that puts my mind at ease. Thanks for all the feedback!!
    I'm sticking to the Suzuki brand. 8)
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