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    Default Gladiator - Building the "Thing"

    I tried to Google modified Gladiators and came up short. Not a lot of Gladiators found either restored or modified.

    Is this because they are not:

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    two seater
    truck style
    not capable
    scares
    sacred
    fugly
    or all of the above

    I can get this one and would like to know if I an wasting my time, energy and money?
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    Can anybody reply with an explanation on the cut-away spare wheel and jerry can holders? I know it was not standard on the Gladiator. Was it a specific mod done for the military, police or other?

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    oh, that is very very nice…

    there are MANY Gladiators out there with serious mods…

    that one is very nice. Is it yours?

    have you been introduced to Bad Santa?

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    Is it yours?

    I said in my post that I can get this one. I wanted to know if it is worth the effort and money?

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    I would say yes, depending on restoration budget. Bad Santa is busy with one & has done lots of research & will be able to advise.

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    That is just so cool.

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    I would take it if I had money, even if it is just to save it from getting lost.
    Any Jeep pick up is super cool :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naas le Roux View Post
    Is it yours?

    I said in my post that I can get this one. I wanted to know if it is worth the effort and money?
    A nice Gladiator… I mustn't look. I had to get rid of my last project. I just sold the 46" tyres I was saving for such a thing…

    Advice: building a rod of any kind, any where in the world is a labour of love. you won't make money on it. you might end up divorced over it.

    Cadzilla - the ULTIMATE hot rod cost Billy Gibbons US$ 990 000 in the eighties, when a million US was a lot of money.

    It's only worth it if you want it and can see it through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    I would say yes, depending on restoration budget. Bad Santa is busy with one & has done lots of research & will be able to advise.
    are they worth spending R100k? What should I pay for this one?

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    Well, I paid 10k for my Wagoneer, It was totally original, and hadn't been started for 8 years, but it fired up with a jump and I drove it round the block. the brakes were… scary… but worked.

    that became a disaster thanks to a dodgy panel beater but anyway. I sold it for a lot less than it cost me, because it was worth a lot less.

    the vehicle in the pics is not worth a lot. at all.

    if you are hoping to end up with something like this…

    100k isn't going to touch sides I'm afraid..
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    I do have a perfect cab ,about 99% complete with no rust ,still with gauges ,doors ,windscreen the hole thing complete for replacement of cab or spares. Make me a reasonable offer.

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    Worth - is it running??

    I agree with Apoc looking at it don't think the owner can expect to much. If I had a few grand laying around would buy it in a heart beat.

    To make it look like the above picture....... how deep is the wallet.

    On the plus side the gladiator comes with a D44 / D53 combo so one can run 33's - 35's without axle mods. Not sure what motor is in the one in picture.

    Good luck
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    Hi Naas

    It`s a civilian model, the cargo box seems to be modified, not standard (first time I see such cutouts) for the spare wheel and looks like a space for a Jerry can to the front.
    The body still looks good from what I can see, look for rust on the cabin floor.
    Pre `68 model and J200 due to the small rear window.
    The engine should be a Tornado overhead cam or, but not very possible the Vigilante V8 for this model - Discard the engine !
    Can fit any other brand drive train.

    J2000 models `68+ was fitted with the Rambler 232 / 3.8 6cyl and has the large rear window.
    J2000 steering box is mounted in the righthand front corner of the chassis, J200 just in front of the cab.

    Check the model plate in the lefthand door frame.
    J200 4WD will have one of the following: 2406F- / 2406A- / 2406B- / 2406D-.
    J2000 4WD, 2406W- / 2406X- / 2406Y- / 2406Z-.
    If the code is 23xx / 33xx it`s 2 wheel drive.
    Differant gearboxes were fitted depending on the GVW.

    Has mine J2000 for 32 years now, original drivetrain, Rambler engine, Warner T-89, 3 speed box, Spicer-20, 4 position transfer, Dana 44 & 53 with 4.88 ratio and Power-Loc in the rear. 28,000 original miles on the clock - busy with a full restoration.
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    This J4000 I sold about 8 months ago , its it for sale again for R45000 . This one has a Ford V8 in and it came standard with a D60 / 44 diffs. It is a import model , so left hand drive , but the beauty about this one is !! not more than 10 000 miles on the clock.
    I also saw one on a farm last week , bad rust for R12 000 but still running.
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    [QUOTE=gunhog;2003451]Worth - is it running??

    No engine, g/box or t/case. I prefer it this way as I am a Chevy man. Intend a Ally small block on a 350C Box and possibly a Dana 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajeromania View Post
    Hi Naas

    It`s a civilian model, the cargo box seems to be modified, not standard (first time I see such cutouts) for the spare wheel and looks like a space for a Jerry can to the front.
    The body still looks good from what I can see, look for rust on the cabin floor.
    Pre `68 model and J200 due to the small rear window.
    The engine should be a Tornado overhead cam or, but not very possible the Vigilante V8 for this model - Discard the engine !
    Can fit any other brand drive train.

    J2000 models `68+ was fitted with the Rambler 232 / 3.8 6cyl and has the large rear window.
    J2000 steering box is mounted in the righthand front corner of the chassis, J200 just in front of the cab.

    Check the model plate in the lefthand door frame.
    J200 4WD will have one of the following: 2406F- / 2406A- / 2406B- / 2406D-.
    J2000 4WD, 2406W- / 2406X- / 2406Y- / 2406Z-.
    If the code is 23xx / 33xx it`s 2 wheel drive.
    Differant gearboxes were fitted depending on the GVW.

    Has mine J2000 for 32 years now, original drivetrain, Rambler engine, Warner T-89, 3 speed box, Spicer-20, 4 position transfer, Dana 44 & 53 with 4.88 ratio and Power-Loc in the rear. 28,000 original miles on the clock - busy with a full restoration.
    Thanks a tone for the info. You surely know your stuff around Gladiators!

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    Here is the J 2000 cab , there is also a chassis , and lots of diffs and V8 chevs to choose from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVR View Post
    Here is the J 2000 cab , there is also a chassis , and lots of diffs and V8 chevs to choose from.
    Immaculate side mirror, looks like the stuff used to search under a vehicle, had the same on my Jeep when I got it.
    This body looks very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naas le Roux View Post
    .....

    I can get this one and would like to know if I an wasting my time, energy and money?
    I'll take it if you don't.

    I'm looking for a Gladdie project, maybe make a J-12 clone. Engine and gearbox isn't important as I'm not worried about originality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well, I paid 10k for my Wagoneer, It was totally original, and hadn't been started for 8 years, but it fired up with a jump and I drove it round the block. the brakes were… scary… but worked.

    that became a disaster thanks to a dodgy panel beater but anyway. I sold it for a lot less than it cost me, because it was worth a lot less.

    the vehicle in the pics is not worth a lot. at all.

    if you are hoping to end up with something like this…

    100k isn't going to touch sides I'm afraid..
    Apoc, what you have pictured is a Kaiser/Jeep M715 on (most likely) 44 inch boggers. Similar to a Gladiator / J2000+ Jeep but made for the army.

    Soft top, dana 70 rear, dana 60 front, four speed granny geared T98 manual transmission and strong but 'fast' NP200 transfer case. Useless 6 cylinder tornado engine but easily replaced with your V8 of choice. Standard it will fit roughly 38 inch tires, mild lift only needed for the 44's.

    A successor to Dodge Power wagons of world war 2.

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