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    good morning all
    please can some one give me some advice, to my jurgens xcape i have connected 2 x 100W solar panels connected in parallel thru a WRND controller directly to the battery, my problem is that every morning the 5A fuse for the fridge on the panel is blown, after the fuse is replaced everything runs smoothly until the next morning. what could be causing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mplester View Post
    If you use a NL power pack with a solinoid you will only ever charge a deep cycle battery to 80% from the alt. A dc/dc improves this charge. Using a solinoid you also need the mppt controller for the solar panel. The wrnd alivuates the need for a solinoid as you have both the dc/dc and the mppt all in one. It is also an auto switch over unit so it will switch from solar to alt power as and when needed

    Thank you, makes sense.

    I presume then that you plug the WRND directly into the Grey BH on the NL, totally ignoring the electronics connected to the Red BH.
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    Hi Thug, quite a lot apparently depends on your vehicles alternator and the output it consistently delivers. Test your alternator using a multimeter. It should be 13.8v or above. Read the NL PPP manual available on their website. 13.8v should definitely give you a lot more than 80% charge.
    Then use good quality solar panels and controller to top off your battery.
    If you plan to go with the NL PPP, be sure to use 16mm2 cables, nothing less.

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    A picture paints a thousand words.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...tery-Box/page3

    I think it will be far less complicated in getting the Auxillary box, I don't have to worry about the Solenoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANGERFAN View Post
    good morning all
    please can some one give me some advice, to my jurgens xcape i have connected 2 x 100W solar panels connected in parallel thru a WRND controller directly to the battery, my problem is that every morning the 5A fuse for the fridge on the panel is blown, after the fuse is replaced everything runs smoothly until the next morning. what could be causing this?
    What fridge is it? Is 5A the correct fuse? I understand that most camp fridges will pull around 5A, so it seems it might be a bit light.

    Was this the setup before you added the solar? I dont see how the two are linked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANGERFAN View Post
    good morning all
    please can some one give me some advice, to my jurgens xcape i have connected 2 x 100W solar panels connected in parallel thru a WRND controller directly to the battery, my problem is that every morning the 5A fuse for the fridge on the panel is blown, after the fuse is replaced everything runs smoothly until the next morning. what could be causing this?
    Just provide the actual position of the fuse. Is it between the WRND and the battery positive or between the positive and the lead that goes to the fridge?

    As indicated rather use a 10A fuse as the starting current might be just over 5A.

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    its one of the fuses on the Herculese 20 panel
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    The marked fuse is perhaps meant for the LED lights (AUX) and if used for the fridge it would be safe to replace with a 10A. The power supply used in the DB/charger will be able to supply enough power as this load gets the power from the battery if the battery is charged. Even without the battery and 220V present it can power the fridge from 12V.

    I am sure it only blows when the fridge tries to start and the start current is higher than 5A for a brief period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANGERFAN View Post
    its one of the fuses on the Herculese 20 panel
    I'll try to check for you tomorrow evening on my Hercules.

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    need some advice on the dcdc and mppt controller please ,

    bought the wrn dc -dc at 4x4 direct, now i would like to know, if i couple it up on the solar can the mppt controller act as a readout to see how the input are ,,my concern is that how to connect ,before the dc-dc or after ,will the dc-dc still do it's thing to power up ,or will the mppt bring it down after the dc-dc.

    not going to buy a meter and get rid of the mppt ,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
    need some advice on the dcdc and mppt controller please ,

    bought the wrn dc -dc at 4x4 direct, now i would like to know, if i couple it up on the solar can the mppt controller act as a readout to see how the input are ,,my concern is that how to connect ,before the dc-dc or after ,will the dc-dc still do it's thing to power up ,or will the mppt bring it down after the dc-dc.

    not going to buy a meter and get rid of the mppt ,
    But the WRND has it's own built in MPPT. don't think this will work technically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
    need some advice on the dcdc and mppt controller please ,

    bought the wrn dc -dc at 4x4 direct, now i would like to know, if i couple it up on the solar can the mppt controller act as a readout to see how the input are ,,my concern is that how to connect ,before the dc-dc or after ,will the dc-dc still do it's thing to power up ,or will the mppt bring it down after the dc-dc.

    not going to buy a meter and get rid of the mppt ,
    I would not advice that. Solar panel output is about 21v and the MPPT only 12-14v

    Connect from the solar panel to the MPPT to the battery if you want the readout. Make sure the vehicle is off and the WRND is resting.

    Or from the solar panel to the WRND to the battery.

    You can connect the MPPT to the battery only, to get the battery voltage, but that about it.

    Keep the MPPT as a spare for a rainy day.
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    All parts finally ordered, with most received.

    I eventually went with the following:

    NL Auxillary Battery Box
    2 x 120W Enersol solar panels
    WRND DC-DC MPPT
    Royal Delkor DC31 100ah

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    Hi Thug, where did you buy the Enersol panels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subok View Post
    Hi Thug, where did you buy the Enersol panels?
    From Sustainable.

    https://www.sustainable.co.za/enerso...lar-panel.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thug View Post
    This is a good price also compare with Sinetech (google)

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    Looking for suggestions on the best place to shop for 12v camping electrickery in Gauteng. Sure 4x4direct and other online retailers are nice but is there a physical supplier outlet with more variety around

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamG View Post
    Looking for suggestions on the best place to shop for 12v camping electrickery in Gauteng. Sure 4x4direct and other online retailers are nice but is there a physical supplier outlet with more variety around

    thanks
    4X4 Has physical shops. Walk in/pay/walk out. Same stock as per online shop. In Gauteng - Centurion, Boksburg and Montana Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    4X4 Has physical shops. Walk in/pay/walk out. Same stock as per online shop. In Gauteng - Centurion, Boksburg and Montana Park.
    Yes I have visited the Centurion store several times-great shop, But I'm hoping there's something with more variety? Like a wholesaler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamG View Post
    Yes I have visited the Centurion store several times-great shop, But I'm hoping there's something with more variety? Like a wholesaler?
    If there is, I would also like to know. But I doubt it!

    Anything specific, or are you just window shopping out of curiosity (I often do that )?



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