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  1. #641
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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    good day all
    i would appreciate some help.
    what amp solar regulator will i need for a 140w solar panel and charging 2x105ah batteries.

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by RANGERFAN View Post
    good day all
    i would appreciate some help.
    what amp solar regulator will i need for a 140w solar panel and charging 2x105ah batteries.
    A 15A solar controller (regulator) will do the trick.
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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by Eggie View Post
    A 15A solar controller (regulator) will do the trick.
    Thanks Eggie

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    Default My DIY 12V Powerbox

    So after a weekend camping and having to 'sukkel' with getting (and keeping) all things connected and charged up, I put a few of my too-imaginative brain cells in tandem, and came up with this power box for 12V use:
    Voltage/Ammeter, Hella socket, USB charging pod, 50A fuse and Brad-Harrison connectors to feed power in and out...

    I've used the following 'flow':
    50A B-H plug as input, with 50A fuse on positive line feeding the Volt/Amp display meter on a 50A shunt resistor. Output 'post-fuse' to Hella socket and USB charging pod, and output through a 50A B-H plug.

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Has anyone installed a dual battery system in the engine bay of an Amarok 132kw Double Cab?

    If so, what advice can you give me as my goal is to achieve the following:

    Stage 1:

    Add 2nd battery
    Add DC-DC charger

    Outlets at the back to drive 1 x Engel 40l, 1 x Waeco 40l & maybe a few LEDs.

    Stage 2:
    Add 2 x solar panels

    Although we typically camp where there is electricity, we did play "Camping Roulette" this past weekend in Baviaans, and since we are interested in more such trips IT IS TIME

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by wims_za View Post
    Has anyone installed a dual battery system in the engine bay of an Amarok 132kw Double Cab?

    If so, what advice can you give me as my goal is to achieve the following:

    Stage 1:

    Add 2nd battery
    Add DC-DC charger

    Outlets at the back to drive 1 x Engel 40l, 1 x Waeco 40l & maybe a few LEDs.

    Stage 2:
    Add 2 x solar panels

    Although we typically camp where there is electricity, we did play "Camping Roulette" this past weekend in Baviaans, and since we are interested in more such trips IT IS TIME
    Hi Wims, the Amarok loadbay is huge and I would rather place the battery in a box in the loadbin, add a DC-DC charger to the box, which can cater for solar input and fused outputs of your choice. The nature of the DC-DC charger is that you don't need thick cables from the main battery to the loadbin.

    Have fun..

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by Subok View Post
    Hi Wims, the Amarok loadbay is huge and I would rather place the battery in a box in the loadbin, add a DC-DC charger to the box, which can cater for solar input and fused outputs of your choice. The nature of the DC-DC charger is that you don't need thick cables from the main battery to the loadbin.

    Have fun..
    I agree with Subok.

    There are a couple of advantages when putting the battery and DC-DC charger in the back.

    • Less heat and vibration that is bad for any battery
    • Only one 4-6mm cable from the front to the back, less obtrusive and money saver.
    • The battery is still close to your DC-DC charger.
    • but your fridges are very close to your battery, less voltage drop, less money on thick cables.
    • your solar connection can be accessed easily.
    • DC-DC charge can easily be monitored.
    • a removable battery box will allow you to quickly take out the battery when not in use.


    Two solar panels is a great idea, I would go for 80 - 120 watt. (Check what size will fit in)

    a Second battery would also be a good idea or maybe one 200ah.
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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by DC Polokwane View Post
    I agree with Subok.

    There are a couple of advantages when putting the battery and DC-DC charger in the back.

    • Less heat and vibration that is bad for any battery
    • Only one 4-6mm cable from the front to the back, less obtrusive and money saver.
    • The battery is still close to your DC-DC charger.
    • but your fridges are very close to your battery, less voltage drop, less money on thick cables.
    • your solar connection can be accessed easily.
    • DC-DC charge can easily be monitored.
    • a removable battery box will allow you to quickly take out the battery when not in use.


    Two solar panels is a great idea, I would go for 80 - 120 watt. (Check what size will fit in)

    a Second battery would also be a good idea or maybe one 200ah.
    Tks for the input.

    Now to get all the parts together to build this. Anyone in PE who wants to advise or lend a hand is always welcome

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by wims_za View Post
    Has anyone installed a dual battery system in the engine bay of an Amarok 132kw Double Cab?

    If so, what advice can you give me as my goal is to achieve the following:

    Stage 1:

    Add 2nd battery
    Add DC-DC charger

    Outlets at the back to drive 1 x Engel 40l, 1 x Waeco 40l & maybe a few LEDs.

    Stage 2:
    Add 2 x solar panels

    Although we typically camp where there is electricity, we did play "Camping Roulette" this past weekend in Baviaans, and since we are interested in more such trips IT IS TIME
    Very nicely done!

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Hi All,

    I need some advice regarding the joining/splicing of 16mm wire…..

    I am planning on running a 16mm feed from the vehicle main battery to the back of the Isuzu to connect the caravan for charging purposes. At the same time I would like to add a feed to the loadbin as I often use a battery box when I do not tow the caravan. This in effect means that I will need to split the feed as I would not want two sets of wires from the main battery. The options I have been looking at:

    1. Split at the BH-plug. The problem I have here is that the wires are too thick to crimp two 16mm wires into a grey 50A BH-plug (one fits nicely but not two)
    2. Somewhere close to the back join/splice the feed to the bin by exposing the main feed and then crimping bin wires to main feed using lugs and solder suplimented by multiple layers of crimp to make the join watertight.

    Are there better alternatives as I would not want to do it wrong running a risk of either a short (breaker is installed at both ends of the batteries) or a break in connection??

    Please advise

    Thanks
    Deon

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Check out National Luna. They have a kit with all you need. You only have to add battery box and battery. I payed 2200.00 for ky kit.

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Hi Erwin,

    I already have the complete battery box. I just want to find a safe method to 'slit' the main feed from the main batery to he loadbin (battery box) and the towbar (caravan), ie. two feeds. The problem I have is the 16mm is very thick and cannot be joined like thinner wires hence my question on what works from the experiened members.

    Thanks
    Deon

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Hi Deon

    I don’t know the answer unfortunately, but try giving Jacques from Bushpower a call. He will definitely have some good advice.

    www.bushpower.co.za

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    I saw a video on YouTube a while ago, where they spliced into the main cable and then soldered the living **** out of the join... could work
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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by IceAge View Post
    1. Split at the BH-plug. The problem I have here is that the wires are too thick to crimp two 16mm wires into a grey 50A BH-plug (one fits nicely but not two)
    Would the 175A BH plugs not work?

    http://www.4x4direct.co.za/brad-harr...110661522.html

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by IceAge View Post
    Hi Erwin,

    I already have the complete battery box. I just want to find a safe method to 'slit' the main feed from the main batery to he loadbin (battery box) and the towbar (caravan), ie. two feeds. The problem I have is the 16mm is very thick and cannot be joined like thinner wires hence my question on what works from the experiened members.

    Thanks
    Deon
    How about a small PVC DB with 2 circuit breakers miunteed to the side of the load bin. Then you van switch lines on and off as you like. Black can be connected via a terminal block.

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by MrTolbos View Post
    no
    The lugs for the BH connectors needs to be tight fitting, that is not splicing solution - adding more than 1 wire of the wrong thickness to get 2 wires will result in a possible bad crimp

    I'd rather do this below, found the write-up on another forum when I needed to do this.

    You can,
    a. use a sharp knife to strip away about 1 cm of insulation from your existing wires WITHOUT cutting or damaging the metal conductor inside.
    b. Expose about 1 cm of metal conductor at the end of the wire you want to attach.
    c. Then twist the exposed wire you want to attach (b) around the exposed section of wire (a).
    d. Melt solder into the join for a permanent connection.
    e. Bind the whole lot tightly with insulating tape.you should really use shrink-wrap

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by IceAge View Post
    Hi All,

    I need some advice regarding the joining/splicing of 16mm wire…..

    I am planning on running a 16mm feed from the vehicle main battery to the back of the Isuzu to connect the caravan for charging purposes. At the same time I would like to add a feed to the loadbin as I often use a battery box when I do not tow the caravan. This in effect means that I will need to split the feed as I would not want two sets of wires from the main battery. The options I have been looking at:

    1. Split at the BH-plug. The problem I have here is that the wires are too thick to crimp two 16mm wires into a grey 50A BH-plug (one fits nicely but not two)
    2. Somewhere close to the back join/splice the feed to the bin by exposing the main feed and then crimping bin wires to main feed using lugs and solder suplimented by multiple layers of crimp to make the join watertight.

    Are there better alternatives as I would not want to do it wrong running a risk of either a short (breaker is installed at both ends of the batteries) or a break in connection??

    Please advise

    Thanks
    Deon
    Get hold of Quick Splices

    http://www.4x4direct.co.za/563-quick-splice

    Just bigger to fit 16mm Cable

  19. #659
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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Schimper View Post
    How about a small PVC DB with 2 circuit breakers miunteed to the side of the load bin. Then you van switch lines on and off as you like. Black can be connected via a terminal block.
    I did it this way, this also enabled me to connect canopy lights and 12V Hella Outlet for pumping beds etc from the load bin

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    Default Re: Electrickery for camping

    Quote Originally Posted by mannemerak View Post
    I did it this way, this also enabled me to connect canopy lights and 12V Hella Outlet for pumping beds etc from the load bin
    he is asking how to splice.... 8)

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