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    Found the measurements - 84 x 43 x 25mm (LxWxD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    Agree with the wires on the side. I'm busy installing mine in a small plastic box with perspex cover that is the size of the meter screen. Wires are then concealed going through the back of the box. . No wires visible then.
    I'm also looking to install into a box, the added advantage is that if the box can close you can hide the bright light in the evenings when you want to.sleep. SWAMBO don't like lights when she's trying to sleep.

    Can you tell me where you got the box from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerhardvr26 View Post
    I'm also looking to install into a box, the added advantage is that if the box can close you can hide the bright light in the evenings when you want to.sleep. SWAMBO don't like lights when she's trying to sleep.

    Can you tell me where you got the box from?
    Plastic box from Communica - less than R40.00.

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    I still need to cut out the screen size on the lid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    Plastic box from Communica - less than R40.00.

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    I still need to cut out the screen size on the lid.
    Thanks. Are you also adding an in-line switch? The problem is that I can't find a way to reset the readings on the meter. From what I read it will reset when there is no power and since it is permanently connected to the battery there is always power. That makes it difficult to keep track of how much was added back into the batteries by the solar panels on a given day. I'm planning to add a switch so that I can cut the power to reset it when I want. That will also solve the issue with having a bright display in the caravan at night when I don't need it.

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    An in-line switch will provide you with the (only) means to reset the meter.
    Unfortunately if you leave it off during the night, your fridge will also be "sleeping".
    Perhaps devise a simple flap to cover the display for the night or position the meter where it does not matter?

    Perhaps someone has a better idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggie View Post
    An in-line switch will provide you with the (only) means to reset the meter.
    Unfortunately if you leave it off during the night, your fridge will also be "sleeping".
    Perhaps devise a simple flap to cover the display for the night or position the meter where it does not matter?
    Eggie, spot on as usual as to the in-line switch.

    I think these meters are build for prolonged display, however, I disconnect the meter from the battery when not camping or using any load for long periods.

    I only use the meter to monitor the load (fridge & lights), as it indicates average amps drawn; thus to calculate the amount of hours left for a safe state of discharge of the battery - when there is no input into the battery or when using solar and getting some overcast days. For measuring the input from either the DC-DC charger or solar I have another setup to inform what goes into the battery - ( see post 353).
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    Advocatus, where do you get these meters from? They look more robust than many of the others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeml View Post
    Advocatus, where do you get these meters from? They look more robust than many of the others.
    Mike, from our friends at 4x4 direct.

    http://www.4x4direct.co.za/558-meters

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    Thanks Advocatus - should have looked there first.

    Now to find a simple small panel mounted clock. Plenty hideous stuff out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeml View Post
    Thanks Advocatus - should have looked there first.

    Now to find a simple small panel mounted clock. Plenty hideous stuff out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggie View Post
    An in-line switch will provide you with the (only) means to reset the meter.
    Unfortunately if you leave it off during the night, your fridge will also be "sleeping".
    Perhaps devise a simple flap to cover the display for the night or position the meter where it does not matter?

    Perhaps someone has a better idea?
    Thanks Eggie. In my case an inline switch will work fine since I've got the monitor between the WRND and the battery measuring what goes into the battery. I like to know what the solar panels are giving back to the battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus View Post
    Agree with the wires on the side. I'm busy installing mine in a small plastic box with perspex cover that is the size of the meter screen. Wires are then concealed going through the back of the box. . No wires visible then.
    Opened up the device. Drilled holes into the back and threaded the wires through the holes. Took all of 10 minutes. Mounted it to the side of a cupboard in the caravan. Looks damn neat and no wires showing. Will post a photo tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerhardvr26 View Post
    Opened up the device. Drilled holes into the back and threaded the wires through the holes. Took all of 10 minutes. Mounted it to the side of a cupboard in the caravan. Looks damn neat and no wires showing. Will post a photo tomorrow.
    Here's the promised photos. Still have to install an inline switch so that I can reset it/switch it off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerhardvr26 View Post
    Opened up the device. Drilled holes into the back and threaded the wires through the holes. Took all of 10 minutes. Mounted it to the side of a cupboard in the caravan. Looks damn neat and no wires showing.
    Well done ....looking good.
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    Thank you for the most comprehensive set of instructions i have ever had the pleasure to come accross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Welsh View Post
    Thank you for the most comprehensive set of instructions i have ever had the pleasure to come accross.
    And so say all of us!
    ChrisF really did all a major favour with his thread - thanks again Chris.
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    On the Volt/Amp meter with external shunt I have added a switch that in one direction will show charge and other direction discharge.
    The shunt I install close to the battery in the neg line and only run the two (green & black) sense wires to the meter and switch.

    The red wires on the meter go to a pos supply on the distribution panel where I have mounted the meter

    Works well, now both readings can be taken.
    Save space

    See diagram for the switch wires.

    Foto is for in the installation in the Echo.
    In the BL-Kewer the installation is in progress (need to cut the SS panel to fit meter and switch)
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    This is probably the best place to ask:

    We camp with a Gen4 Pajero and use the car to charge cellphones and perhaps a rechargeable lantern if camping more than two nights. Once at camp we tend to not drive around most of the time ( depending on the venue) so the car is stationary. The concern is that the cellphones of which there are five might draw too much. Question then how quickly does the alternator top up the battery if I start it and let it idle.

    Sorry if this is a dof question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riaan van Wyk View Post
    This is probably the best place to ask:

    We camp with a Gen4 Pajero and use the car to charge cellphones and perhaps a rechargeable lantern if camping more than two nights. Once at camp we tend to not drive around most of the time ( depending on the venue) so the car is stationary. The concern is that the cellphones of which there are five might draw too much. Question then how quickly does the alternator top up the battery if I start it and let it idle.

    Sorry if this is a dof question.
    Wild guess ....

    let's say one charge per day per cell phone, that is roughly 1A/h per cellphone per day. About 5A.h per day.

    You should be able to do this for 4 days without any real impact on a typical SUV/bakkie battery.


    A small 30W PV panel and a basic regulator(charger) would be the answer if you are worried.


    Letting the engine "idle" to charge the battery .... many variables in that concept, from the engine speed at idle to the alternator charge rate etc etc ....

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    Thanks Chris. Guess I could find out what the charge rate is on the alternator, there is a battery centre around the corner that can test.

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