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    Default Difficulty selecting gears in Defender 2.4

    Murray is a 2008 Defender Puma 2.4 with 96,000 kms on the clock.

    Everything has been great, but over the last year of owning him I've always noticed the gear selection to be a bit sticky. In the last few days this has become much worse.

    A few nights ago while driving I could not select the next gear at all! There was just a grinding as if the clutch wasn't disengaging.

    I stopped on the side of the road, put the high/low gears into neutral, and managed to get the main gears selected. Reselected high range and then drove for a bit. All seemed to be ok after that...

    But ever since, the gears have been much harder to select. Especially reverse, 1st and 2nd.

    Every now and then when I have the clutch disengaged (foot depressed) and the car is coasting, it will feel like it's suddenly lurching forward, as if I've dropped the clutch a bit.

    I have skinny legs but they can handle the hard defender clutch peddle, so it's not me dropping the clutch.

    Any ideas on what this could be? Clutch / gearbox?

    Murray's also not under warranty anymore so loathed to visit the Landy dealership....

    Thanks!!!!!

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    could well be the clutch not disengaging fully, is it a hydraulic clutch, have you checked the fluid level or maybe get around to bleeding the system?

    If it is hydraulic your clutch slave or master cylinder could do with new seals.??
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    Thanks for the advice Marcochezzi!

    Another thing that might help diagnose the problem: When stopped at a traffic light and needing to select 1st gear, I have to lift my fully depressed clutch foot up very slightly before it'll pop into gear.... any ideas

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    Had something similar happen on my 130, I did not have any issues prior to the event as in your case. I was on a trip from Joburg to Durban arriving at Marian hill toll plaza I struggled to engage 1st, had to lift off the clutch slightly made a hell of a noise, by the time I reached Durban it had become very difficult to engage any gears

    Long story short - needed a new clutch, mine was FUBAR = $$

    Only suggestion I have is keep it away from a dealer and rather take it to a good independent for a check

    Good luck, hopefully it's something minor

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    On this note, when I've been in neutral at a red light or whatever and then engage first, even with my clutch right in there's a slight "kick" as it slots into gear - is this normal?
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    As said before, start by checking the fluid level of the clutch reservoir. you can locate it at the back of the "clutch pedalbox"
    The Puma's have to have enough fluid in the system to depress the clutch to engage and select the gears properly.
    If you find that the level is very low, you might even have to bleed it to get the air out which is definitely a 2-man job and you need to know where the bleed nipple is.....under the Puma on the gearbox.

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    I checked the fluids this morning and all is perfect.

    I also notice the gear selection seems to get worse when the Landy warms up. Hmmm.

    I will definitely avoid the dealership. Does anyone know a good lutch/gearbox specialist in the Durban area (I'm based in Hillcrest)?

    BTW Metalmachine... who the funk is Mr Peter Street

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    Ha! Just Googled "Mr Peter Street Land Rover" and see he's from Landy Worx. Good call! Thanks again

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    Hi i have the same problem i have looked for the slave cilinder's bleeding nipple and i found it impossible to get my hands in there to bleed it. I spoke to bloem land rover they said you can only bleed it under pressure.

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    I had this problem with my 2.4 the fault was a bearing in the gearbox, this was repaired as a recall fault, I know that there were quite a few 2.4's in Gabs that had this problem.
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    Hi Wimpy - it can also be your slave inside the gearbox. Take your Landy to Chris Williams in DBN North - Cell 079 1842219

    Look back for a post on a almost similar case. You welcome to PM me, I am in Gillitts

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    Thanks impala!
    I'll give Chris a call now cus it's starting to get worse.

    Every now and then when I depress the clutch pedal I can hear a whining/grinding sound

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    Check this?

    Technical Bulletin
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    22 Aug 2013

    -Abrie-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimpy Hightop View Post
    Thanks impala!
    I'll give Chris a call now cus it's starting to get worse.

    Every now and then when I depress the clutch pedal I can hear a whining/grinding sound
    That could be the bush in the flywheel for the spigot shaft, mine does it as well. Have you checked the adjustment on the maater cylinder? Take off the little plate on the box on the clutch master cylinder and check if all is tight there as well.

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