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    Windhoek - Namibia wildlife authorities on Friday defended the auction of permits to hunt black rhino, saying the kill was aimed at conserving the endangered species.
    The auction conducted in the US by The Dallas Safari Club is part of a government approved annual quota, in place since 2012. It gives permission for the killing of five black rhino per year.
    "We have been confronted by individuals and organisations who express their dissatisfaction about the programme...they sometimes think that we do things randomly," said the Deputy Minister of Environment Pohamba Shifeta.
    "People should not be worried, we have a programme and policies that we are following."
    Shifeta said the auction which ends on Saturday will be followed by a hunt at a national park in the semi-desert southern African country that has a black rhino population of nearly 1 800.
    Media reported that The Dallas Safari Club expected the auction to generate $250 000-$1 million.
    Namibia says proceeds from that the hunt which has drawn widespread criticism from wildlife groups go to a conservation fund.
    "We have never experienced a reduction of rhinos, in fact, the number has increased," Shifeta said.
    Namibia is less hit by rhino poaching compared to South Africa, with only 10 killed since 2006, according to the international wildlife trade monitoring network Traffic.
    Across the border, rhino poaching has reached crisis levels, with nearly a thousand killed in 2012.
    Black rhinoceros are internationally considered an endangered species and the World Wildlife Fund says there are less than 5 000 rhino remaining in Africa.
    The Namibian government also grants licences for the hunting of big game like elephant and lion.
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    Wendy Drury - January 10, 2014 at 21:15
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    I wouldn't go to this country if I got a free trip. Are there any African countries that actually CARE about their wildlife anymore?
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    Act Muronzi - January 10, 2014 at 21:59
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    Seeing as there's an increased population of the rhinos, their conservation methods are working...
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 01:18
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    Research The Myth of Trophy hunting as a form of conservation. You would be unpleasantly surprised by the findings of these people. Its not conservation. Its money in someone's pocket. The Namibian lions are almost gone, but hey why not kill all pride and large game for trophies, then tourists have no reason to endanger their lives to come do game drives in Africa, they can visit Western Plains Zoo that houses only African species.
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    Whiteafrican - January 11, 2014 at 04:19
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    Wendy & Stephanie, the fact is that trophy hunting, as much as I personally don't like it, is a very effective conservation tool. It is old news that in Kenya where trophy hunting was stopped in 1977 they have lost more than 70% of their wildlife. In Tanzania the lion populations and the majority of other wildlife are healthy and Dr Paula White, probably the most experienced and respected lion specialist in the world attributes this to trophy hunting.

    We cannot get away from it. Fact is that in Africa and many other places in the world, the rule is if it pays it stays. I would much rather see five rhinos hunted a year than one thousand poached a year.

    Closer at home in South Africa our wildlife has increased from just over half million head in 1963 to more than 21 million currently and wildlife specialists attribute this to hunting.

    I don't want to kill any animal, but then I also don't want to see our wildlife disappear because I became emotional about "blood sports".
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    Whiteafrican - January 11, 2014 at 04:25
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    Stephanie, regarding your assumption that the lions of Namibia are disappearing, fact is that they are doing extremely well. In Etosha I believe they want to use or are using contraceptives to keep numbers down so that they, the lions, do not destroy their prey base. Population numbers vary in Kaudom and Caprivi from year to year, but that is according to lion specialists caused by rainfall and the migration of prey species which are followed by the lions.

    The desert lions have increased by several hundred percent from 1996 until now, so it is a myth that Namibia's lions are almost gone.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 04:39
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    @Whiteafrican- Look mate you can blow smoke up other peoples backsides, but I spend a lot of time with conservation professionals and they definitely say its a load of crap. Its greed and ego and nothing else. Tell someone who will believe that crap. Rhino's cannot increase their numbers in captivity without human aid and in the wild they take long to breed and only have one calf per cycle. Killing 5 a year on top of poaching the number tell a different story and people are tired of having smoke blown up their A$$#$....
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 04:44
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    Mate you sound one of the people who own a Safari Park. If that is the case, then why tie bate to trees to lure lions of reserves to kill I am Tsumeb born and love Namibia, but I am not blind to what's going on there either. Maybe its time we ask a Lion expert to tell us more about the myth of this hunting for conservation. Many lions don't Live in Etosha and are pride males along the Namibian coastal areas. Hunting is for deer and herd management not Rhino and Lions. Real hunter hunt for the pot, not their egos'...
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    Whiteafrican - January 11, 2014 at 06:49
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    Stephanie apart from attacking me as a person you do not justify your arguments with facts. Lion specialists you may want to talk to are Dr Sam Ferreira, Dr Paul Funston and Dr Flip Stander. They will confirm that lions are not endangered in Southern Africa.

    Rhino specialists, Sam is one of them, will tell you that the annual population increase of white rhino in the wild, depending on grazing and climate can be as high as 11% per year and even higher in captive bred rhinos. A major black rhino tendency with captive breeding or breeding them in fairly confined spaces is that the offspring tends to be more than 90% male. The reason for this is still researched, but fact is that those males serve no purpose for the greater black rhino population and take up scarce space that could have been occupied by breeding animals to achieve a more balanced offspring to the benefit of the species.

    As far as the many pride males of lion living in the desert along the coastline; contact Flip Stander and he will tell you that the biggest threat to the desert lions is not hunting, but revenge killings by people. If controlled hunting was allowed, those lions would have had value and people would think twice about killing them.

    Your assumption that I own a safari park is wrong, but I have spent more than R 7 million for conservation purposes of specifically predators in Southern Africa in 2012 and this year we will spend even more.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 08:19
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    @Whiteafrican - Dr Philip (Flip) Stander has worked with carnivores for over 27 years and has dedicated the last 12 of these to the conservation of Namibia's desert lions.
    During the Namibia Desert Lion Safari, travellers accompany Dr Stander on his daily mission to learn more about the fascinating desert lions and to ensure their future. There are only thought to be 100-130 of these unique cats in a 55,000km2 area of Namibia's remote Kunene Region. So whilst there is a real chance to see these great predators on this safari, a sighting would be an added bonus rather than a guarantee.
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    Whiteafrican - January 11, 2014 at 08:41
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    Stephanie I do not actually understand your remarks and the relativity about Flip's lion activities, but yes he did and is still doing wonderful work to save those cats. The number you mentioned is not far off, but numbers should be seen in conjunction with the productivity of the region, thus fairly low carrying capacity for prey species and predator numbers are relative to prey species numbers. According to Flip, population increase has planed out as the available habitat cannot sustain many more cats and to increase their numbers, more habitat is required. That is one of our major conservation challenges, securing more habitat to maintain and increase our wildlife and not to fight trophy hunting that helps to raise funds to acquire more conservation land.

    In Damaraland 26 000 hectares were made available for wildlife by the community who owns it. They removed their livestock from those marginal areas, but would not have done it unless they were assured of the fact that they can earn an income from that land in another way. To them it does not matter whether it is from tourism or hunting. Hunting only leaves a smaller environmental footprint than tourism and this is especially important in fragile eco-systems such as deserts.

    As I have said, I don't like trophy hunting, but it makes sense.
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    Alicialouise - January 11, 2014 at 12:45
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    It boggles my mind. How can any one walk up to a magnificent beast like a Rhino, shoot it, while looking into its eyes, and see it drop dead before you? What chance does the animal have?
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    Elisa Galgut - January 10, 2014 at 21:52
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    Namibia is totally corrupt; the only 'policy' they have is to slaughter their national heritage and sell the carcasses to the highest bidder. Namibia currently conducts the largest - and the cruelest - slaughter of marine mammals on the planet - paying Namibians peanuts to bash in the heads of not-yet-weaned baby seals with pickaxes and broomhandles. And then this idiot of a minister tells the world 'don't worry - we have a plan". Indeed; the only 'plan' is to keep killing endangered animals until the price per head increases as the species heads towards extinction. If anyone thinks that the money is going towards 'conservation', he needs his head read. If Namibia needs money for conservation, how about making the country attractive as a place for tourists and wildlife photographers - the money brought in from ecotourism far exceeds the blood money that the psychopathic rich Americans will bring in for a rhino carcass. Boycott Namibia and hurt them where it counts - in their pockets.
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    Whiteafrican - January 11, 2014 at 04:36
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    Elisa the fact is that Namibia's fish stocks are in a much better shape than South Africa's. It is an unfounded assumption that the country is corrupt and compared to South Africa...

    The fact is that the culling of seals, does not have an adverse effect on their populations. According to Dr Beytel, the population are stable and not declining.

    In fact culling has taken the place of shark predation on seals. We all know that millions of sharks are killed every year for their fins, so we should maybe rather channel our fury to shark fin hunters rather than seal culling operations. It just might be a better start to get the natural balance back in place and let nature takes its course, don't you think?
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    Colleen Williams - January 11, 2014 at 06:12
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    Well said Elisa!!!!
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    Jurgens Engelbrecht - January 11, 2014 at 07:31
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    Namibia corrupt? no i don't think so. They have 36% of black rhino world wide, and the number is growing, the best cheetah conservation program in the world,and there marine life is healthy and very much controlled, yes seal culling have been an issue but as stated before, sharks are being hunted therefor seal population are out of control and that will destroy the fish population, so you tell me, millions of seals and no fish? I think the rest of africa and the world can take a leaf from the namibian book on conservation, and conservation is not about saving or sparing every life but to keep a balance, Namibia is the only country in the world where black rhino is grazing in the wild with no fences. I am a proud Namibian and the work that has been done there since independence stand head and shoulders above any other african country.
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    Andre Botha - January 11, 2014 at 08:41
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    Elisa, you do not know what you're talking about. Have you ever been to namibia?
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    Penny Kemert - January 10, 2014 at 21:53
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    That is absolutely outrageous!!
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    Dik Derrim - January 10, 2014 at 22:10
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    Pigs will always be and think like pigs!!
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    Bruno Rech - January 10, 2014 at 22:21
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    Guys before u guys post messages realize that hunting actually protects wild life and people who think otherwise are ignorant. I am open for a debate on why this is so.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 01:20
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    Don't talk crap Bruno. Hunting deer is to thin herds and maintain the grazing veldt so they don't over graze. But hunting lions and rhino are ego and money driven. Research has been provided to debunk the myth that it is a conservation method. But lie to yourself if it makes you feel better.
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    Bruno Rech - January 11, 2014 at 05:28
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    Steph... Do yo know that you can buy rhino for your farm. If you go to any auction in tabazimbi you can buy rhino. The only thing is that no one buys rhino... Why Because the rhino costs more to maintain" fences and guards" and look after than the value it brings to the farm. So people don't buy rhino and breed the rhino. If all hunting was illegal in south africa then their would be no game only herds and herds of cattle simply because people are not going to breed a animal that is worthless and brings no money to the farm therefore hunting" which sticks to an quota" provides income which intern gives people an incentive to breed the animal. And just so you know me and my family run one of the biggest nature conservation organizations in the vaal district. " SAVE". So just try think an little.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 08:55
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    @Bruno - I don't care if you hunt deer mate, I do have an issue with hunting viable lions in their prime and pride males as you disrupt the entire breeding cycle till a new pride male is accepted and he kills all cubs not born of him. That's not conservation. Canned lions are a lot worse. I have friends who hunt deer, and farm, but I don't know any who hunt Lions and Rhino. They don't need that kind of ego boost.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 09:41
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    Yes Bruno I do, but I can buy them in Australia if I ever consider breeding Rhino.
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    Bruno Rech - January 11, 2014 at 11:03
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    Ag please man...you have completely missed the point. And hunting an lion or an rhino is perfectly fine if it does not impact on their numbers in fact hunting protects the animal. So ill tell you what go learn some economics and how to run an game farm at school then talk before u make ignorant comments all the way from Australia on topics you have no clue about..
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    ingwe - January 11, 2014 at 12:14
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    Stephanie shows her knowledge by calling buck deer!
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    Sean Van der Merwe - January 10, 2014 at 22:58
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    Thanks to comments in this article, the whole world knows where to poach rhino where no one was looking. If you had R1800 to last for your and all your decendents lifetimes, would you slowly give it away to people who dont give a damn if you run out? When they are gone, they are gone.
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    Kaz Sumatran Tiger Cobb - January 10, 2014 at 23:45
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    Well Nambia would defend it, they want the animals gone. This is a Country that gives permits away for a nearly extinct Rhino to be shot, and the money never gets the the cause. This is also the country that in the last few years have trapped Rhinos, Elephants etc and sent them to a zoo in Cuba. A total of 23 species of animals – including endangered black and white rhinos, cheetahs, leopards and lions – have already been transported to the Caribbean island nation, leaving Namibia in November 2013. What they should realise as well as Dallas Safari Club, the world is watching !!! and if his hunt happens they won't look good.
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    ingwe - January 11, 2014 at 12:16
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    You can provide proof of all of your assertions?
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    Graat Pelser - January 11, 2014 at 06:53
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    These armchair conservationists might be right in Northern Africa but in South Africa there are thousands of game farms and some do game farming and others do annual hunting making South Africa the best game conserving/farming in Africa . What is shocking is that old ideas about wild Africa is a joke. There are cities in northern Africa where not a bird is heard or seen! I recently travelled from Kissi to Nairobi and although "hunting" is not practised there was for 6 hours not a bird or animal seen although it was past the Masai Mara reserve! Namibia has a good game management system and wild game is well managed. There is an abundance of game and money from hunting is put back into conservation! Botswana, Namibia, South Africa has well managed game hunting regulations.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 08:57
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    Yup Graat but you are a deer hunter and hunt and spear fish for the pot and make biltong, not for your ego.
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    Stephanie Sutherland - January 11, 2014 at 14:53
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    I have posted numerous links to sites that have research on this very topic. Not just a few guys research, but in-depth research that really gets into the nitty gritty of trophy hunting mainly on the African continent. But News24 keeps removing the related links and research that make very valid points on this subject, as they try to discourage fair debate in favour of one sided arguments that suite them. And @ Ingwe - I have never heard a hunter say he is going buck hunting. I work on a deer sanctuary and work with Red, Fallow and Indonesian breeds of deer . I also give educational talk on the different species of deer and antelope and their differences.
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    Fred Deeb - January 11, 2014 at 21:17
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    Dear Texas,

    Please help the world out and figure out how so many Texans have mixed up the definition of killing and conserving. This should prevent this kind if thing from happening many years down the road. However, this will do nothing for the many endangered species on the planet until this educational fix takes hold. Therefore, if you could also gather up this apparently wealthy hunting club, strip them down to their birthday suits, and drop them all off in the center if the nature reserve referenced in this article, it would greatly be appreciated. If we could film the subsequent events like they did in the movie "The Hunger Games", this would be a fantastic deterrent for other wealthy morons in Texas and across the world.

    Thank you,

    The world.
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    Fred Deeb - January 11, 2014 at 21:30
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    Dear Hacker Community,

    Do to recent events involving let's say, the Target card hacking, among others, you've had a bad run and do not have many fans a cross the globe. In an effort to improve your global approval ratings, If you would kindly post a detailed listing of every members name and photo, if available, of the Dallas Safari Club. In addition, if you could publish how much the "winners" of this auction paid, an to who, that would be fantastic. I'm hoping the person selling these licenses is be breaking some kind of law. Also, if possible, please provide the date these morons are planning to go on their safari slaughter, I think this information would be helpful to intelligent caring wealthy people across the Globe that might have the means to prevent this kind of crap from happening.

    Thanks so much!!!

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    Got a feeling this thread is bye bye...

    Not about the Rhino story but all the junk afterwards.

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    LOL, I had a good laugh at the "arguments" by some on this article!!

    Problem is, yes, it shows their lack of knowledge or understanding. But people prefer their flawed arguments.....


    Look at a simple fact. Namibia is the most successful country in the world with regards to rhino conservation. Nobody comes close to our success.

    Less than 1 tenth of 1 percent of the Rhino population gets poached per year.... If you were a rhino, odds of getting poached this year is 1 in 1200......

    Some countries do worse to conserve their human population......

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    We don't tell them how to do accounting, or manage their hair salon (or whatever bunnyhuggers tend to do), they mustn't tell us how to do conservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenD View Post
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    bunnyhuggers constantly get in the way of wildlife management.

    We don't tell them how to do accounting, or manage their hair salon (or whatever bunnyhuggers tend to do), they mustn't tell us how to do conservation.
    Owen you guys should explain to them exactly the role trophy hunting plays in sustainability of populations. I think if people are educated about it they might understand that it's very important. In the case of Rhino there's a bit more going on so it's tougher.
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    If wildlife have no commercial value its doomed in the long run in Africa, whether its from hunting, tourist or selling, and when wildlife is fenced in, in about 90% of cases, one need to managed it, as nature is already disturbed, for sustainability, healthy environment and animals. So you need take off surplus animals, whether it is selling, culling, hunting depending on the market.
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    Whenever this thread get boring, just substitute the rhino with seal and it will have a new lease of life.

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