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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabe View Post
    With Nata you mean the Nata Lodge with its campground?

    For the campsite you dont need a booking, it is huge and can deal with 150 pax. But it is spacious as well and has a nice pool :-)

    Even on request they say, you dont need to book if you wanna camp.

    Maybe a bit noisy from the closeby road-until it gets dark...

    If you have the time, a visit at the bird sanctuary maybe nice

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    Thanks Mabe,

    Yes I meant camping at Nata Lodge - quite beautiful I know - I camped there for one night about a year ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JacoBrits View Post
    Visited Elephant Sands in September 2013. Ok for a night stay over.
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    Pantoffel, if you are at Khama over a weekend, rather book. It gets quite busy. But still a better overall experience than Woodlands.

    At Senyati I would not like to pitch up without a booking until the "new management" has learned some people skills Great campsite though with lekker thick sand to get there
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    Pantoffel
    Hi I have stayed at Elephant Sands a few times. Had some great experiences with Elephants and Wild Dog at the water hole. I agree with some of the other comments though, it is getting a bit tired but still good for one night. My concern though would be Ihaha with a
    2 x 4. There is deep sand on the way in.
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    Ihaha if its raining is easily doable in a 4x2 with DL and deflated tyres (no trailer). The sand compacts very nicely.
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    James
    Sure March is the rainy season and the right amount of rain would compact the sand nicely. Two much would bring about another set of problems though and two little would leave you with the deep sand issues especially if driving at mid day.
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    You do not mention if there will be a second vehicle (4x4) in your party but if not i would say that it is risky. I'm not sure that driving in the parks with 2x4 is legal and it certainly is not good for the environment. Any way the point of your thread is such that you could evaluate the situation once you were there and make an informed decision (although you say that you have already booked and paid for Ihaha) Regards
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    I'm not sure that driving in the parks with 2x4 is legal and it certainly is not good for the environment.

    There is no law about driving 4x2's in any part of BW, don't be 4x4 obsessed hundreds of people drive all over BW with 4x2.
    With regards to the 'certainly not good for environment' eish I don't see the context.
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    Hope your recovery plans are well planned if you want to do Hunters in March

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    Hi Pantoffel, my son and I went that route going to Kasane in October. Bloody hot and dry that time of year.

    We overnighted at Elephant Sands but although one gets close to lots of elephant we did not like the place as it is very much a one sided affair; meaning it is not managed nor maintained well, the camping ablutions are very inconvenient when the wind blows and their is no shady trees in the camping area vs the camping cost.

    We went via the Hunter's road to Senyanti. I would imagine that it will be very difficult to negotiate during the wet season, especially with a 4x2 and if your party is less than 3 vehicles and without the necessary recovery kit and skills.

    We enjoyed Senyanti for the reason that the owners want to manage it like a rustic environment without a lot of hassles with do's and dont's. (Maybe the reason for some people to complain about)
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    Thanks all,

    I don't want to be "environmentally unfriendly"... My research so far has shown that the road from kasane up to Ihaha is fairly tame. I believe it's west of Ihaha and towards Savuti where sand becomes an issue.

    I'll stay off hunters road with the 4x2.

    Based on feedback I received here i booked khama rhino and ihaha. The overnight between khama rhino and chobe is now a toss up between Nata Lodge and Elephant Sands. I'm thinking maybe revert back to Nata and see if we can get to a lookout point over the pans if not too wet or see the bird sanctuary.

    Thanks again for all the help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedwo View Post
    James
    Sure March is the rainy season and the right amount of rain would compact the sand nicely. Two much would bring about another set of problems though and two little would leave you with the deep sand issues especially if driving at mid day.
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    You do not mention if there will be a second vehicle (4x4) in your party but if not i would say that it is risky. I'm not sure that driving in the parks with 2x4 is legal and it certainly is not good for the environment. Any way the point of your thread is such that you could evaluate the situation once you were there and make an informed decision (although you say that you have already booked and paid for Ihaha) Regards


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    Well, yes Ihaha is booked and paid via FNB Forex payments. I'm struggling to get a confirmation from the operator that payment is received - I'm a bit worried actually.

    To answer your question: yes there will be a 4x4 with low range in the party - my Pajero.

    I'm cognizant of effect on the environment but I was told from Kasane to Ihaha is OK. The problem is west of Ihaha.

    I'm working it works out.


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    Pantoffel
    Following my posts on this thread I did read some of your other threads which gave some context to your planed trip. There are patches of heavy sand between Kasane and Ihaha, but if as James points out there has been some rain it should be more compact. Nata Lodge is definitely the better accommodation and if you get to see the Flamingo's it will be worth it. I unfortunately have to wait until August before I get to that part of the world again. It will all work out so enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaunB View Post
    Stay at Nata, skip elephant sands, and use hunters road from Nata to Kasane. Overnight somewhere next to the road, just not at Kazuma Pan. Lead wood pan is a good option.

    Just my 2cW
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantoffel View Post
    Thanks all,

    I don't want to be "environmentally unfriendly"... My research so far has shown that the road from kasane up to Ihaha is fairly tame. I believe it's west of Ihaha and towards Savuti where sand becomes an issue.

    I'll stay off hunters road with the 4x2.

    Based on feedback I received here i booked khama rhino and ihaha. The overnight between khama rhino and chobe is now a toss up between Nata Lodge and Elephant Sands. I'm thinking maybe revert back to Nata and see if we can get to a lookout point over the pans if not too wet or see the bird sanctuary.

    Thanks again for all the help.

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    Elephant Sands is werklik iets spesiaal. Daar is nerens 'n plek waar jy soooooo naby wilde olifante kan kom en veilig wees nie! Hul kampplek is dalk so so, maar die bos is puik. Die view is asemrowend. Moenie dit verby ry nie!

    Maak Elephant Sands jou oorslaap. Regtig mooi!
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    Weet nie of dit gaan werk nie




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    Quote Originally Posted by witklipbank View Post
    Weet nie of dit gaan werk nie




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    Dit is verseker deel van my beplanning - baie dankie


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    There will be very few elephant at Elephant Sands in March ,there is too much water now all over the bush ,I would give it a miss as the camp site is a dump .Hunters road in a 4x2 ,no go anytime in Bots ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma 130 ADJ View Post
    There will be very few elephant at Elephant Sands in March ,there is too much water now all over the bush ,I would give it a miss as the camp site is a dump .Hunters road in a 4x2 ,no go anytime in Bots ............

    Mmmmm...

    The alternative then being Nata Lodge?

    Now I'm in two minds again


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma 130 ADJ View Post
    There will be very few elephant at Elephant Sands in March ,there is too much water now all over the bush ,I would give it a miss as the camp site is a dump .Hunters road in a 4x2 ,no go anytime in Bots ............


    Puma, I'm going to have the same problem in Chobe then?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puma 130 ADJ View Post
    There will be very few elephant at Elephant Sands in March ,there is too much water now all over the bush ,I would give it a miss as the camp site is a dump .Hunters road in a 4x2 ,no go anytime in Bots ............
    Jammer, dit sal 'n pragtige watergat en lekker kampplek bly! Ek sal beslis Elephant Sands besoek. En al is daar baie poele water in die veld, diere raak gewoond aan 'n watergat.
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