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    Okay, In terms of the NRTA , I've had a very good look.

    the term 'fixed hood' is not covered under definitions, but I understand it to be a 'fixed roof' vehicle (as opposed to a convertible or cabriolet) and I think that is a fair understanding of the term.

    So - the law requiring doors ONLY APPLIES to Fixed hood vehicles. If it's a soft top or open top vehicle, doors are not required.

    You must have a minimum of 2 mirrors on the car - one on the driver's side plus either an interior or passenger side mirror.

    Other than the limits of public decency, there is no need to wear any clothing or footwear under the NRTA ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarloJK View Post
    ve also heard that you may not drive barefoot, but I've never found the statute...


    Is this a fact ?
    It's a fact that I was told that you are not allowed to drive barefoot (or without a shirt) back in darker times when I got my driver's licence.


    It's also a fact that I cannot find any reference to any law requiring you to wear shoes or a shirt (or pants for that matter) while driving a motor vehicle...

    It's possible that such a law may have existed under the previous traffic act... but it certainly doesn't appear to be the case anymore...
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    hmm, you could be right, i remember those things in the dark ol' days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiboko View Post
    hmm, you could be right, i remember those things in the dark ol' days
    Would be quite a hoot going down into Gordon's Bay in a couple of weeks with no doors or top and no shoes or shirt... and mebbe yoga girl and a couple of mates topless too...

    Wait for them to pull us over and laugh at them while they work out what we've done wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Actually, I'd be interested to see that law...

    I've also heard that you may not drive barefoot, but I've never found the statute...
    I dont think it has anything to do with driving.

    Maybe there is a law that you are not allowed to run around in public with no shirt, something under Public indcecency , or Public Nudity
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBSP View Post
    I dont think it has anything to do with driving.

    Maybe there is a law that you are not allowed to run around in public with no shirt, something under Public indcecency , or Public Nudity
    Well....

    I'd like to see that one too...

    bit archaic. I mean.... what do you do at the beach?

    and that still wouldn't cover the shoes....

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    anyway.

    Proper jeeps have been made to be doorless and especially topless since 1941.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Well....

    I'd like to see that one too...

    bit archaic. I mean.... what do you do at the beach?

    and that still wouldn't cover the shoes....
    according to this (I know AA is not the LAW :-) )http://www.aa.co.za/technical-servic...shirtless.html

    there is no law, but you could be charged with indecent exposure.

    Question is. When is indecent exposure , indecent exposure ? In the menlyn mall or at the beach , probably only when it becomes a problem

    Glad i'm not a laywer LOL,
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBSP View Post
    according to this (I know AA is not the LAW :-) )http://www.aa.co.za/technical-servic...shirtless.html

    there is no law, but you could be charged with indecent exposure.

    Question is. When is indecent exposure , indecent exposure ? In the menlyn mall or at the beach , probably only when it becomes a problem

    Glad i'm not a laywer LOL,


    I think you'd have a very hard time convincing anyone that shirt off is indecent exposure , whether male or female actually.

    Tasteless is another thing altogether.



    Sheesh.

    The Holiday makers have arrived and I can tell you, there is plenty of indecent exposure around here.

    some people should just NOT wear so little..

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    some people should just NOT wear so little.. [/QUOTE]


    Almost as bad as a fellow forum meber in lycra ? PS,when do we get to see the photo ?

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    I NEVER WORE LYCRA!!!

    Sheesh.

    I'd have fined myself for displaying such bad taste!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I NEVER WORE LYCRA!!!

    Sheesh.

    I'd have fined myself for displaying such bad taste!!!!


    Lol.

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    One mirror

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    weather you need it or not, i actually want all mirrors, i drove without and it was acward
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    Sorry, this thread was really not what I expected...


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    Just chatted to ghost_traffic about it and he spoke to one of the senior vehicle examiners who said a barrier of 600mm is required, so a door or some other sort of barrier. Furthermore upon checking the AARTO handbook on loads, nothing is mentioned about sedans and station wagon types. The officer will find it hard to find the regulation and code in order to issue a fine. He says we cannot be charged for driving without doors whilst wearing safety belts as the load (us) is considered secure.

    So I guess we have the answer thanks ghost!

    Edit: PS. Clothing isn't NRTA related, it has to do with by-law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavok View Post
    Just chatted to ghost_traffic about it and he spoke to one of the senior vehicle examiners who said a barrier of 600mm is required, so a door or some other sort of barrier. Furthermore upon checking the AARTO handbook on loads, nothing is mentioned about sedans and station wagon types. The officer will find it hard to find the regulation and code in order to issue a fine. He says we cannot be charged for driving without doors whilst wearing safety belts as the load (us) is considered secure.

    So I guess we have the answer thanks ghost!

    Edit: PS. Clothing isn't NRTA related, it has to do with by-law.
    Where is the by law?

    just interested . If I take my shirt off it's usually bad taste anyway. I'm just wondering how much trouble the girls will get into for taking theirs off…

    and - what is the answer? I can't find reference to a 600mm barrier (or anything else) and there is only specific legislation for doors on fixed hood vehicles. Soft top vehicles don't seem to need them by law…

    As I say - would be funny to see. the guy is SURE that having the top and doors off and 3 topless girls in the vehicle is far too much fun to be legal, but he can't work out what is illegal about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post

    Where is the by law?

    just interested . If I take my shirt off it's usually bad taste anyway. I'm just wondering how much trouble the girls will get into for taking theirs off…

    and - what is the answer? I can't find reference to a 600mm barrier (or anything else) and there is only specific legislation for doors on fixed hood vehicles. Soft top vehicles don't seem to need them by law…

    As I say - would be funny to see. the guy is SURE that having the top and doors off and 3 topless girls in the vehicle is far too much fun to be legal, but he can't work out what is illegal about it
    Gosh I don't know, just passing on the message. The answer seems to be what I said above, the seat belt is an acceptable barrier and it's longer than 60cm. So as long as the rear view mirror requirements are met and we're wearing our seat belts, goodluck to any officer who tries to write a ticket.

    Edit: Oh sorry, shouldn't have implied it IS a by-law, it's by-law territory, not NRTA related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavok View Post
    Gosh I don't know, just passing on the message. The answer seems to be what I said above, the seat belt is an acceptable barrier and it's longer than 60cm. So as long as the rear view mirror requirements are met and we're wearing our seat belts, goodluck to any officer who tries to write a ticket.
    Oh okay. The seatbelt is the barrier.

    You have to wear it anyway!

    Seems in line with what I've read!

    Now. About the clothing bylaws... Where do we find those ?

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    Check my edit above

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