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    Hi Guys,

    I am looking for some opinions on buying a vehicle. I currently own a 2005 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 A/t, and having done just over 210 000km it is time to trade in and get something a little younger.

    I have had a look at the Terios LWB 4x4, around a 2010 model, and really like the look of the car. I also really like the idea of a fuel consumption below 10l/100km as the Outie is a thirsty beast averaging 13l/100km.

    What is the driveability like on the Terios with its little 1.5 engine, obviously a lot lighter then the Outie so will i really notice the drop in power from 115kw to 77kw?

    Is the Terios worth getting in A/T?

    I sit in much the same dilemma as most, torn between a real 4x4 monster that punishes me all week on the daily commute with its consumption, and a lighter softie that can handle a little bit of the rough stuff come weekend.

    The terios should be a bit better offroad than the Outie due to the better clearance and the diff lock, btu how much so?

    Any other vehicle in the class i should consider?

    Looking for something no more than 5 years old and with under 100 000 km, for around the R150k mark or less.

    Thanks in advance.

    Edited to add: SPace is a concern for me, so no Jimnys or the like... Needs to fit me, the mrs and 5 year old daughter, as well as space for another little one or two as I'd like to keep the car for a couple years.
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    Can I suggest you test drive a Subaru Forester too (might a little high on your price range though)

    For a softroader they are very good off road and brilliant on the road (for anything close to their ground clearance)

    just advisable to stay away from Turbo models if you want reasonable economy
    something like this
    http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-car...000-to-174-999

    That said I have heard very good things about the terios
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    Hi YoungGun,
    I drive a 4x4 terios 2010 manual which I bought new. I have now done 80000 km and have not experienced one little bit of trouble.
    I have lifted the suspension and also had a banana branch and freelow installed because I tow both a Sherpa Rough Roader and a Bantam Off Road trailer.
    My average fuel consumption is around 8lt / 100km.
    I can highly recommend a Terios if that is what you are after.
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    The Terios is a bit underpowered with that 1.5 engine so it usually not that economic as you have to drive the clappers out of it to get it anywhere.

    Why don't you have a look at a Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.4 Manual. Fuel consumption should be just under 10l/100km and you can find a reasonably low mileage one for around R150k and it is a very capable off-roader to boot with low range. I like my Grand Vitara more than I did the Suburu Forester I had prior to the GV. It is a bit more uncomfortable to drive, but it is a very capable and well designed vehicle with a 6yr/90000km service plan included. Suzuki looks like they have a very nice dealer down in Pinetown (who participates on the Suzuki subforum here) and you get to join the Suzuki 4x4 club and meets lot of great people! Avoid the 2.4 auto as it is heavy on juice.

    With Subaru you have take it to a independent dealer, otherwise you get taken to the cleaners when it comes to servicing and spares, once it is out of its maintenance plan.
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    We loved our terios, and actually never sold it - it was written off in an accident. For low running cost and longevity I reckon it is a winner. It is a bit underpowered, but living down by the coast it will be less noticeable than up here. The grand vitara is more capable, spacious and powerful, but will be more expensive to buy and run. Take a terios on an extended test drive and see if the power will be an issue for you.
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    Thanks guys.

    I do love the look of the Subaru but I'm a bit sceptical on the fuel economy?

    Also did just start looking at the GV and am interested, will have to go take a look at one in person.What is the interior space and seating config like? Quite like the Terios LWB for the flexibility of the 3rd row. Was a bit worried as I did come across a thread regarding the consumption of the GV auto.

    Once bitten, twice shy... That's how i'm feeling about my current 2.4 petrol.

    Reliability and cost of parts etc, what is the difference between the 3?

    My Outlander has cost me dearly in that regard, with a new radiator having to be imported at great expense while the car sat in Newcastle for close on 6 weeks. Also spent waaaay too much on brake pads etc.
    That being said I still love the car dearly, but really need something more efficient at the pumps.

    That Mitsubishi 2.4 is a bit of a donkey and the Outlander a bit of an elephant, so power to weight I wonder how far off the Terios will be?

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    Oh just as a side
    From what I hear the economy on the 2.5 NA engine is about 10 to 12 L/100KM city driving depending on your driving style (I stand under correction here but you are welcome to ask the other forester owners on forester forum)
    on my 2.5XT Turbo I get between 13.2 and 14.8 /100Km but I have heavy foot and the turbo likes to drink

    Subaru can be expensive on certain parts however not really more so than other Japanese or German cars (price a clutch on CRV or gearbox on Amarok)
    So far availability has been fine

    Stuff like radiators is readily available (I had to replace mine and it broke at 11:00 Friday afternoon and I had new one fitted by Silverton radiators by 15:30 For R3100)
    and you can get most spares reasonably quickly for better pricing online too

    Bought a set of rear brake pads at local spares shop for just under R500 2 months ago

    I used Rockauto.com for my 100000K service components (the 100K cambelt kit is expensive) and had it delivered to my door a week and half after ordering for less than half the dealer price

    You can check out foresterforum.co.za if you have any questions about Subaru foresters in SA
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    I got reasonable fuel economy out of my Forester (around 10.5l/100km), but I was mostly doing highway driving. The issue with the Forester is due to the excellent drivetrain, they have to cut costs elsewhere and that you can see in the interior and the quality of items such as the poor quality radiator (lots of plastic everywhere) etc. The radiator on my Forester also gave up the ghost. I had it recond. rather fitting another one. Any items involving work on or near the engine invokes an immediate labour penalty as the engine has to be dropped out of the bottom due to the boxer layout. It also is prone to head gasket failures. When the head gaskets failed on my Forester the dealership quoted me R42,000 to fix it. I had it done at an engine specialist for far less.

    Have a look at a GV, it is reasonably spacious and I like the deep boot. Four people fits in very comfortably. The 2.4 has enough power if you need to pull a trailer if you need additional space and a roof rack is also an option. If you need more clearance Suzuki has a lift kit available and there are some nice accessories as well.

    I can only imagine that the Terios will have difficulty with a trailer, and if you use the 2nd row seats on the LWB, that you will have almost zero boot space left.
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    I think this week I shall have to go take a look at the GV.

    With regards the extra row in the Terios, I would likely only be using those seats on short hauls, so the loss of luggage space wouldnt be a problem. But the SWB Terios, as good as it looks, is just too small for me.

    I dont tow anything, havent needed to, and my Outlander has never even had a towbar fitted.

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    Head gasket issues was mostly resolved on the 2005+ models from everything I have picked up

    Can still be issue if your forester over heats though

    Plastic radiator top seems to be a weakness but then most new cars use plastic tops and you can get aftermarket fully aluminum radiator for about R4600

    as for all labor requiring the engine to be dropped?
    some work yes like taking the heads off I can see how you would need to
    but for standard engine work it isn't generally necessary
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    I must say I have always liked the newer shaped Forrester, but the price is a little higher than the other two...

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    I had an auto terios for 3 years in saudi, the first swb models, despite the engine power in the dunes, it was an awesome little car, even towed my quad with it, well before i got the quad i went quadding with the guys, in the terios....
    durable, fairly comfortable, highly overpriced in RSA (like most other vehicles), but if you are in the market for such, I cannot think of a reason why not.
    not sure if it's tandard in RSA, but make sure to get one with a diff lock.
    the auto box is fine for it's class. it really handles and drives well.
    have to admit my fuel consumption was never better than 7km/ltr, but ksa traffic is hectic, towin the quad and dune driving all adds up, also lots of idling for the ac in that part of the world, and non-moving traffic.
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    I drive a 2010 LWB Terios 4x4 - but the 5 seater model. It has taken us everywhere we have wanted to go in the past 3 years.....I really like my car- but our circumstances are changing and I will be selling mine in the next month or so.....

    If you go look at the car again check if the underside have been sprayed or rubberised. The LWB models comes from Indonesia- when we got our first one is was rusted underneath- I had a 6 month long very unpleasent fight with Diahatsu to replace the car for us. The new one was in a better condition, but still has rusted areas on the chassis.

    It is a bit underpowered and we replaced the shocks ......

    Good luck with your decision.

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    I find the interior very spacious, seating for 4 adults like a luxury 4x4. A bid under powered, especially steep inclines. The "high" seating position is also a big plus in traffic, and helpful to get in and out of the car.
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    Also looking at Terios - for my dad..However I was not impressed. The lack of power was quite appalling and I doubt one would be able to safely pass a truck going at about 95km/h on a straight flat piece of road. This was on a test drive with three passengers in the car....Really no "oomph" when you hooved it...Can it actually exceed 100km/h?
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    Quote Originally Posted by john_ysbeer View Post
    Also looking at Terios - for my dad..However I was not impressed. The lack of power was quite appalling and I doubt one would be able to safely pass a truck going at about 95km/h on a straight flat piece of road. This was on a test drive with three passengers in the car....Really no "oomph" when you hooved it...Can it actually exceed 100km/h?
    & at nearly R300k for the offroad version, it isn't worth it. For a small 4x4, go diesel I think. I drove the Duster up Durbanville hill in 6th happily at 120 kph, with plenty more power available. Plus it uses less fuel.

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    it's not that bad but surely no firepower, I use to tow my quad in the middle east with it (yes there are some mountains), but it's still a 1500cc, totally agree on the price in SA, not worth that although an awesome little car.

    Not sure why toyota don't use the older 1.8i corolla engine or something with just a bit more "let's go" in it, it really just needs that extra something.

    I had it chipped, filters etc etc, everything possible, even ran it on additives when dune driving, can't tell you if it made much difference, but switching the AC off on the dunes surely helped...
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    we have a 1.5 auto yes its not a Ferrari but it goes well enough fit a free flow and do the chip and the terios will impress you , we used ours to move with and it towed the trailer without any hassles.
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