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    Quote Originally Posted by GroenHoender View Post
    I heard that Giant, which is one of the biggest bicycle manufacturers, also products Scott, hence their similairity to the Giant bikes. Scott is a very good brand, just a bit more budget-friendly than Giant itself.

    Giant also manufactures other brands such as Trek and Colnago, althought these have their own unique frame designs.
    I beg to differ, Scott is from USA, Giant from Taiwan. Histories here
    https://www.scott-sports.com/za/en/page/history
    https://www.giant-bicycles.com/za/ab...turing-founded

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroenHoender View Post
    I heard that Giant, which is one of the biggest bicycle manufacturers, also products Scott, hence their similairity to the Giant bikes. s.
    Scott may contract some or most, of their frame manufacturing to Giant. Giant is one of the biggest frame manufacturers.
    But when you dig into it, there are major differences. Totally different designs between Giant and Scott. The kinked top tube and vertical shock driven by a rocker link is the only main similarity.

    The Scott bikes are a FSR pivot rocker link design, and they use fancy chambers in the rear shock to change dynamics, while the Giants run their own Maestro design, which is essentially a virtual pivot design driven by parallel linkages.

    They also ride very differently. I used to ride a Giant Trance, now I'm on a Scott Genius.
    Both mid travel trail bikes, but they are worlds apart when pushed hard.
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    Default Re: Show us your Mountain and Road Bicycles

    Quote Originally Posted by PhlippieV View Post
    Scott may contract some or most, of their frame manufacturing to Giant. Giant is one of the biggest frame manufacturers.
    But when you dig into it, there are major differences. Totally different designs between Giant and Scott. The kinked top tube and vertical shock driven by a rocker link is the only main similarity.

    The Scott bikes are a FSR pivot rocker link design, and they use fancy chambers in the rear shock to change dynamics, while the Giants run their own Maestro design, which is essentially a virtual pivot design driven by parallel linkages.

    They also ride very differently. I used to ride a Giant Trance, now I'm on a Scott Genius.
    Both mid travel trail bikes, but they are worlds apart when pushed hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amilo2003 View Post
    I beg to differ, Scott is from USA, Giant from Taiwan. Histories here
    https://www.scott-sports.com/za/en/page/history
    https://www.giant-bicycles.com/za/ab...turing-founded

    Scott does has its origin in USA but near all bikes are manufactured in Taiwan.
    There are only 3 or 4 factories in Taiwan, with Giant being the largest one.
    The majority of brand bikes (Trek, Scott, Colnago, Santa Cruz, Schwinn, Bianchi, etc) are outsourced to Giant, where it is made as per these brand's specs.
    Learnt all of this via the local bike dealer (ex-SA champion/Springbok cyclist) in my town, as well as little bit of research.
    Oh, and on most bikes you will see stickers saying "Made in ..." which has the same location.
    Another fact that few knows is that Merida is the 2nd largest factory, after Giant, and they own something like 49% of Specialised, and manufacture their bikes as well.


    https://www.brujulabike.com/where-ma...s-manufacture/

    https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/8...r-in-the-world
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    Interesting debate on Scott cycles. When we moved from Australia to Africa in 2015 we packed up home and I forgot to give removal guys my Scott Speedster S3, only remembered the day before we left. I chained it to a pole in the basement area of our flat complex and hoped for the best. 6 years later we returned to Australia and there it was still chained to the pole. I went to a cycle shop bought a pair of "colour-coded" tyres, new tubes, plenty of WD40 (Q20 look alike) and viola, as good as new. I bought this bike in 2004 and it still rides perfectly, fits into the budget range but love my Scott.
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    After gaining some unnecessary bulk and my son #2 finally taking an interest in mountain biking, I have decided to retire my raleigh 26inch and get a 29er.

    Stopped by PMB on my way through to Dbn and thought I would pick up a Pyga, but sadly they do not carry stock, and build on demand. So Hyrax ordered but they say it will take about 2 weeks to build and then I shall wait until my next trip to Dbn to fetch it.

    Very nice guys by the way and were super helpful and even offered to lone me one of their personal bikes and show my son and I around cascades. There is also some value in supporting a local manufacturer, and even their wheel sets are locally sourced.

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    Default Re: Show us your Mountain and Road Bicycles

    Quote Originally Posted by stephenplumb View Post
    After gaining some unnecessary bulk and my son #2 finally taking an interest in mountain biking, I have decided to retire my raleigh 26inch and get a 29er.

    Stopped by PMB on my way through to Dbn and thought I would pick up a Pyga, but sadly they do not carry stock, and build on demand. So Hyrax ordered but they say it will take about 2 weeks to build and then I shall wait until my next trip to Dbn to fetch it.

    Very nice guys by the way and were super helpful and even offered to lone me one of their personal bikes and show my son and I around cascades. There is also some value in supporting a local manufacturer, and even their wheel sets are locally sourced.
    Hyrax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedx2 View Post
    I chained it to a pole in the basement area of our flat complex and hoped for the best. 6 years later we returned to Australia and there it was still chained to the pole.
    Totally unbelievable! But happy for you to hear the bike was still there.
    Enjoy the ride.

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    Saw this thread for the first time today. Thought I'd share my steed

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    This is Black Betty, she has 140mm of travel I have a low enough count of brain cells to try and use every mm. Our current relationship is rather strained as we haven't spent any time together thanks my COVID infection. Betty wants to know how I got infected she's rather jealous of such things.

    Nonetheless we have marked out the downhill run for our reunion. Even the music https://youtu.be/EjmnbW5nWqw time and date to be decided.
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    Default Re: Show us your Mountain and Road Bicycles

    Quote Originally Posted by stephenplumb View Post
    After gaining some unnecessary bulk and my son #2 finally taking an interest in mountain biking, I have decided to retire my raleigh 26inch and get a 29er.

    Stopped by PMB on my way through to Dbn and thought I would pick up a Pyga, but sadly they do not carry stock, and build on demand. So Hyrax ordered but they say it will take about 2 weeks to build and then I shall wait until my next trip to Dbn to fetch it.

    Very nice guys by the way and were super helpful and even offered to lone me one of their personal bikes and show my son and I around cascades. There is also some value in supporting a local manufacturer, and even their wheel sets are locally sourced.
    I'm not going to lie, I am jealous. The Hyrax is an awesome bike. If I had to replace my Pascoe, it will be a difficult decision between the Hyrax or longer travel Slakline, but Pyga it will be.
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    My Epic Sworks, really enjoy this bike.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
    I'm not going to lie, I am jealous. The Hyrax is an awesome bike. If I had to replace my Pascoe, it will be a difficult decision between the Hyrax or longer travel Slakline, but Pyga it will be.
    I actually wanted to buy the slakline but they convinced me the hyrax was a better choice for my style of riding and lack of fortitude for big jumps and such. To be honest I know my son will take it over soon one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by River Rat View Post
    This is Black Betty, she has 140mm of travel I have a low enough count of brain cells to try and use every mm. Our current relationship is rather strained as we haven't spent any time together thanks my COVID infection. Betty wants to know how I got infected she's rather jealous of such things.

    Nonetheless we have marked out the downhill run for our reunion. Even the music https://youtu.be/EjmnbW5nWqw time and date to be decided.
    Looks very nice. I hope you bounce back from the Covid soon and strong.

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    My current two steeds. On the right in grey is my 2019 Norco fuild FS1, My very first dual sus bike, it has taken my riding to a whole new level, both in terms of distance riding and trails.

    On the left was my project bike/xmas gift to myself. 2019 Dartmoor Primal frame I bought from Namibia's only female downhill racer. Then came the painstaking and best experience ever. Handpicking every part to build the bike myself. Covid obviously had a significant impact on what was available, non the less still managed to build a ripper of a bike with a 150mm fork, 150mm dropper post, 780mm wide bars and super powerful magura brakes. It's something special riding a bike you build yourself with the parts you picked. Brings such a childlike joy every time I ride it.

    Next bike will be a 150/140mm travel dual sus, and a frame build again.
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