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    Default Buying my first 4x4 advice PLEASE!!!

    Hi everyone,

    I am buying my 1st ever 4x4 and have my eye on a few models and really don't know which is "best"

    Models to consider:
    1997 Landrover defender 90 2.8i (BMW motor) 270000kms full service history
    2004 Jeep cherokee 2.4l sport 135000kms 2 year waranty
    1999Toyota Hilux 3.0lTD double cab 306000kms
    2002 Toyota hilux 2.7i double cab 235000kms
    1999 Toyota hilux2.7 double cab 316000kms (including rooftop tent)

    It seems like the Landy is the coolest and I have always loved them. The jeep is luxry and seems like you get a lot for your money and the Hiluxes are supposed to be bullet proof.

    I will be using it to tow a trailer with motorbikes on, camping trips and some light 4x4 and my every day car. I will be using it daily.

    All advice is really really welcome!

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    '02 Hilux 2.7 IF you can handle 16l / 100km.

    Bulletproof.
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    I agree with Andrew 2.7 the way forward... stay away from TD hilux scratch it off list completely. LR motor BMW have you priced BMW parts lately? Sensible option out of that list Hilux 2.7...You might want to consider adding to your list the Pajero range as well {similar year models}... Very good 4x4 , luxury and reliable... Good luck

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    Imo the Jeep is allot of 4x4 for less money. The ones you mentioned are "hard" 4x4's, but you mention light 4x4 and a daily commuter. Why not consider a newer model "soft" 4x4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew5336 View Post
    '02 Hilux 2.7 IF you can handle 16l / 100km.

    Bulletproof.
    +1
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    The motor in the Jeep Cherokee 2.4 is a bit of a dog. What price range are you looking at? For the fuel consumption on the 2.7 Hilux you may as well get a reliable V8.

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    I agree, the Pajero is good value and also bulletproof. Excellent tow vehicle with reasonable consumption (3.2 diesel).

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    Go for a LR Defender 300TDi.

    Reliable as a brick. Also as aerodynamic as a brick but hey, a 4x4 isn't a race car.
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    I have just tested a LR 2.8i and loved it!!!

    Its a 1997 with 198k on the clock. Lifted suspension with a ton of extras; sterio, roof rack, awning, bull bar etc.

    It seemed quite wobbly though like when the wheel alignment is out in other cars and the clutch seemed stiff. Is this how a Landy feels normally? Im new to this!

    Cheers!

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    We will all give you a personal opinion of what we think is the best. Buy your vehicle with your heart and your brains. Buy something that suits your pocket and which you like. Otherwise you will be doing it again shortly. Then learn what your 4x4 is capable of and enjoy it. Some will tell you that diesel is the juice of the devil and that it stinks. Others use it for aftershave. If you compare spares prices these days, there is not much difference between different makes of vehicles. Some will tell you that a certain model/make is rubbish and someone else will have the same type of vehicle and will absolutely adore it.
    So! go out there choose your 4x4 get the dope and then make the decision.
    Enjoy your new 4x4
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    on that list 2.7 hilux or landy. both thirsty
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    I suppose if you want our advice you should consider that we are all biast to our own vehicles. What is your budget?

    The only reason I will go for petrol models is you are safer against Turbo failure. I mention this because all the vehicles on your list have very high mileage except the Jeep. So based on that and the 2 year warrentee will probably be my choice.
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    Previous:
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    Land Rover 90 Series IIA (I miss this one the most, but not the oily hands)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackbuilt76 View Post
    I have just tested a LR 2.8i and loved it!!!

    Its a 1997 with 198k on the clock. Lifted suspension with a ton of extras; sterio, roof rack, awning, bull bar etc.

    It seemed quite wobbly though like when the wheel alignment is out in other cars and the clutch seemed stiff. Is this how a Landy feels normally? Im new to this!

    Cheers!
    Errr yes it's called the "Defender Left Leg Excerciser"..........

    Wobbly could be suspension bushes, it's worth mentioning that and getting some money off the price.
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    As a daily drive, I would go for the Jeep, also because it is newer.

    I know a number of people that used to have Defenders as daily drives but eventually after hours of city driving the novelty wears off, I have owned many Defenders and try and avoid them as a daily drive if I can.

    I found the same to be true of all the previous generation Double Cabs. Never driven the new ones. (Ranger, Amarok, Isuzu)
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    The Cherokee is a POS when it starts getting older.

    The IFS gives hassles and chews control arm rubbers repeatedly.

    My choice?

    http://www.gumtree.co.za/cp-cars-in-...eaturedAd=true
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    Thanks sooooo much for all the help here!

    I have made my decision based on lots of what you guys had to say and mostly (Sorry) on the school boy heart in me!

    I have just confirmed and sign papers tomorrow for a ..........

    Wait for it....

    ....

    .....

    ....

    Landrover Defender 1999 2.8i woooooooohoooooooooo!!!

    197k on the clock and in great shape! I'm totally stoked!

    Now one final question:

    Can anyone lend me ZAR 20K for fuel this month ;-)

    Seriously thank you everyone for your help and all the PMs... I will see you guys soon driving my amazing new Defender!

    Cheers
    Jim

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    Congrats.now how about a pic?

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    Great news. Welcome to 4x4 Communitity.
    Pieter in Randburg
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    Land Rover 90 Series IIA (I miss this one the most, but not the oily hands)

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    Cool!
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    Thanks you lot!

    I would post an image but don't know how on here... any help?

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