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    Default Cape Town Mechanic who knows his Jeep CJ6's

    Hi,

    It has been ages since posting here. In brief about 2 years ago I searched hi and low for a Suzuki SJ but then binned the idea...

    I have got wind of a great looking little rebuilt CJ5/6.

    Not looking at doing big time 4x4-ing. It will be a run around car I will use to go surf and my family can use it when they are down in Cape Town visiting.

    Seems to be very well rebuilt and nice and original (2.5 Chevy Motor)

    I would like to get someone who knows a bit about these little monsters to come check the car out with/for me to make sure I am not buying a lemon.

    Anyone know someone in the Cape with the required experience?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Do you have a picture perhaps of this Jeep? My love for 4x4ing started in a Jeep, many moons ago. Would still like to own one, and it is always nice to see old CJ's.
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    A guy called Dave Ratcliff is about as knowledgeable as you will find. I will try to get his number

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    As requested.

    Fully original, sandblasted and resprayed, rewired, engine rebuilt.
    Either a CJ5/6.

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    Thanks XJ

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    Which area is it in?

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    Near Edgemead/Northern Suburbs in Cape Town

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    Thats a short nose CJ-6, clean looking paint job!
    Every dog has its day, and those with broken tails have their weak-ends...

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    With a 2.5 Chevy motor, it can hardly be called "fully original" ! The CJ's were built by VW in the 70's, utilising the 3.8 Chevy straight six motors.

    To check it out, I would suggest you speak to Anton at APS in Stikland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    A guy called Dave Ratcliff is about as knowledgeable as you will find. I will try to get his number
    082 068 86726 (looks like too many 8's), try 082 068 6726

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThysleRoux View Post
    With a 2.5 Chevy motor, it can hardly be called "fully original" ! The CJ's were built by VW in the 70's, utilising the 3.8 Chevy straight six motors.

    To check it out, I would suggest you speak to Anton at APS in Stikland.
    They did indeed have a stock 2.5 Chev (GM iron block). The 3.8 came later.

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    If you send me the VIN number I can tell you a bit more.

    Also get fotos of the rear,tailgate, the steering column (right upto where it goes into the floor), the fuel filler, front window from the inside. Firewall from engine compartment. Axles, transfer case and chassis.

    I know its a lot to ask but the photos already raises some questions:
    where is the windscreen wipers
    the rear part of the tub does not look standard AMC Jeep or willys, so it might be one that was built for the SA Army who added their own flavour of a rear tub
    the chairs arent original either
    Now not being 100% original isn't a problem, unless that is what you are paying for.
    My CJ6 is a retro mod, a lot being oringinal or options added later and some changes right out modifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJ Junkie View Post
    They did indeed have a stock 2.5 Chev (GM iron block). The 3.8 came later.
    Jip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Iron_Duke_engine

    from: http://www.cj-jeep.com/CJ5Early/History-Year.htm

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    151 cu in (2.5 L) Iron Duke I4
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    According to the above sources the 2.5 GM motor was used from 1980-'83. VW built them locally in the '70s. The CJ6 was produced from 1955 to 1975. The CJ5 and 7's were continued into the '80s and would have been available with the GM 2.5 motor, but not locally, as production was stopped before then.
    Last edited by ThysleRoux; 2013/03/18 at 11:34 PM.

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    Visually the 6 pot motor was used in the long nose CJ-6, basically the same front end of the CJ-7.

    It was extended because the 6 pot motor was too long for the stubby short nose Cj-6
    Every dog has its day, and those with broken tails have their weak-ends...

    1976 CJ-7, 400CI + Holley EFI, Tera-Low 3,15:1 twin stick, ARB's front & rear, oil leaks & plenty more....

    All my other petrol burners are boring....

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    Thank you for all the detailed replies...

    I think I should have clarified "Fully Original" I should have thought a bit before posting that.
    I haven't yet seen the jeep. In addition to the pics I have been told the following :

    > Bodywork sandblasted and redone 10 months ago, vehicle re-wired at this time too.
    > 2.5 Chev 4 cylinder (told its the original) completely rebuilt with less than 1500 km done since the rebuild.
    > Year is a 1960/1961 Willy's Jeep
    > Running gear all original (gearbox, diffs, transfer case etc) and in good working order.
    > Removable A frame.
    > Fully licensed and he will give across all service manuals etc he has on the vehicle to the buyer.

    I since found out he worked on the car himself with his son about 10 months ago.

    When querying the exact model he said

    "this ventures into muddy waters, the debate is that it is either a CJ5/6 or that the Jeep was built by Praetor Engineering for the SADF in the 60/61 era. WE have a plate indicating Praetor however the serial number searches point to a CJ6."

    He has not been able to conclusively prove either.

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    Lucky Luke, I also couldn't find the wipers...

    I am happy that the vehicle might be as original as what the owner is claiming, not a necessity. The price is very low imo for what is on offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydkayak View Post
    Lucky Luke, I also couldn't find the wipers...

    I am happy that the vehicle might be as original as what the owner is claiming, not a necessity. The price is very low imo for what is on offer.
    What would you pay for this little jeep ?? 8)

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    For the price in the PM you sent me, it sounds good, if the chassis has no cracks and the drivetrain and engine is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThysleRoux View Post
    According to the above sources the 2.5 GM motor was used from 1980-'83. VW built them locally in the '70s. The CJ6 was produced from 1955 to 1975.

    The CJ5 and 7's were continued into the '80s and would have been available with the GM 2.5 motor, but not locally, as production was stopped before then.
    Actually the CJ6 was built in 1975 to 1980 in South Africa by VW, production was only stopped in the US. I have a genuine 1976 CJ6 built by VW for AMC Jeep here in Uitenhage, actually the 47th one they built to be precise.

    for more info:
    http://boyink.com/cj6/cj6s-in-south-...ry-and-photos/

    This one is probably an EX SADF one if we look at the rear of the tub, but difficult to say without more phots.

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