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    Why cant we flood the market with our stock-pile of old Rhino horn kept in the KNP or even better, create a substitute Rhino horn out of waste from our cattle?
    The people in China and Taiwan wont know the difference if it is real or false provided its a good replica and similar structure.
    If the price of horn plummets the intensive to kill will be lost.
    And to those 11 in Musina I hope they rot in prison.

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    It is not only the poachers that need to be shot at first sight. The worst are the mentally sick sexually crazy CHINESE that are giving the demand. The country is flooded by Chinese with the mass granting of work and residence permits by the government of the day, they buy the horns and smuggle them out of the country either with false declarations or with the help of bribed South African!!! customs officials.

    Check Chinese dealers, check Chinese Restaurant owners, and check those criminal people of our kin who are buying from the poachers and re-selling to the Chinese.

    There is a long string of criminals to be after. It is not only the little poacher, who probably earns the smallest amount of money out of the proceeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajo View Post
    The worst are the mentally sick sexually crazy CHINESE that are giving the demand.
    Actually, the main market now is Vietnam.


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    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...ruger-20100926

    2 more poachers nabbed.

    related or unrelated to the other lot is not known...

    Well done to the police for getting them too, pity they only injured the one in the shoot out though..

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    Good to have arrested people in Musina - it remains to be seen how effective our justice system is and how it will pan out! Look at the many fraud cases that have not been finalised!

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    I agree with Apoc - it makes it much worse if they are a vets. If these allegations are true; then I hope that these low-life rubbish rot in hell.

    I still don't see evidence showing that they are poaching, appart from the allegations that they have had some cross border "illegal hunting" in Zimbabwe. But nothing about rhinos. It looks like what CAfrica says - they have been buying rhinos and selling the horns. If you are a vet, then what is the point of killing a rhino that you have shares in to get the horn off, when you can just as easily get the horn off and leave it alive - so when the horn grows back you can get more, and still breed with it.

    Can someone show me some proof or evidence that they have showing that these guys are flying the helicopter onto other farms and shooting their rhino. Do you think flying a helicopter onto a game farm and darting a rhino is more stealthy than simply shooting it at night and escaping by road with horn under arm the next morning?

    I am just trying to make sense of these reports.
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    FYI, this was my weekly Man Friday column for the Cape Times on Friday.

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    INTERNET forums devoted to outdoor activities like overland travel, conservation, hunting and fishing have been buzzing with outrage over the news that 11 people, including two veterinarians, a pilot, a professional hunter and a game farmer had been charged with killing scores of rhinos. Among the charges they are facing is one of contravening the Medicines and Related Substances Act.
    This evidently relates to the illegal possession of the drug M99, a sythetic compound that is anywhere between 200 and 25 000 times as strong as morphine, depending on which wildlife vet you’re talking to - at those kinds of strengths, the numbers become a bit irrelevant.
    On one of the forums, the question was asked “why use M99 if you’re going to kill the rhinos anyway?” The answer to that is complex, and simple. If that sounds oxymoronic, bear with me.
    By way of background, I first got involved in active rhino conservation in 1984, when Garth Owen Smith and the late Blythe Loutit invited me to travel with them on an anti-poaching patrol through Namibia’s remote Damaraland and Kaokoveld regions.
    The late 70s and early 80s was a terrible time in Africa. It was the height of rhino and elephant “wars”, when it was open season on what zoologists rather quaintly call the “charismatic mega-herbivores”. In most of Africa, black and white rhino were hunted to the verge of extinction, the demand for their horn driven mostly by the vanity of men in Yemen, who prized the tips of the horn as dagger handles.
    There was also a smaller market in the east where it was claimed the ground horn had aphrodisiacal properties.
    The only countries that managed to keep their rhino populations intact were South African and Namibia, and to a lesser extent, Zimbabwe. Zambia’s rhinos were wiped out. Kenya and Tanzania saved a few remnant populations.
    At the forefront of conserving Africa’s rhinos were the South African Parks Board, in reserves like the Kruger National Park, the Natal Parks Board (now KZN Ezemvelo WIldlife), and NGOs like the Save the Rhino Trust Fund.
    Particularly influential as a breeding ground was the Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve in KwaZulu Natal, from whence, when I did some work with their game capture team back in 1996, more than 4 000 white rhino had already been relocated, so that the African population of white rhino then stood at around 6 700, spread over seven countries, with 6 300 of them in South Africa. The black rhino population was estimated at between 300 and 500.
    In the 14 years since then, the white rhino population in South Africa has increased to 19 000 and the black rhino population to 1 470.
    With the advent of Viagra and other drugs to treat erectile dysfunction and a drop in demand from Yemen, the future started looking rosy. Then, about two years ago, a prominent Vietnamese businessman claimed he been cured of cancer by ingesting rhino horn.
    That, coupled with an evident resurgent demand for horn as an aphrodisiac, has seen the price of horn rise to as much as R429 000 per kilogram, with 210 poached since January this year.
    Given that a live white rhino sells for between R182 000 and R192 000 on the annual Ezemvelo wildlife auction, and that a trophy horn weighs up to 8kg, it’s a no-brainer that if you have a game farm, you can make a tidy profit out of killing your own rhino and hacking off their horns (one of the accused in the Musina trial, game farmer Dawie Groenewald, is reported to have 32 rhinos on his farm).
    But back to the use of M99 to bring down the rhinos: As mentioned, I was privileged to work with the Ezemvelo capture team, and I have also worked in Zambia, Malawi and Namibia with teams collaring elephant for research purposes, again, as in KZN, darting them with M99 from helicopters.
    And that’s evidently what the poaching syndicates have been doing - flying in by chopper, darting the rhinos with M99, and hacking off their horns with chain saws.
    The reason they use M99 and not bullets is simple - to kill a rhino with bullets you need heavy calibre rifles, pinpoint accuracy, and it is dangerous. Plus, the rifles make a lot of noise. The M99 dart is fired from a .22 rifle, makes a small popping sound, and as long as the dart is firmly embedded in the rhino, it will drop within minutes.
    The dosage of M99 is very delicate, and has to be exactly the right volume and strength to make sure the rhino gets enought to knock it out, but not so much that goes into severe stress and dies. My guess is that our modern day poachers are deliberately overdosing to make sure they get in for a clean kill.
    I’m a vehement opponent of the death penalty, but I do have this sneaking hope that sooner or later one of the poachers will get an M99 needle stick injury, and there won’t be enough time to administer the antidote, M50-50.
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    well said Tony!!!


    seems to me they don't bother carrying the antidote, so hopefully, as you say... a small error with handling the stuff will occur sooner rather than later..

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    Just for those who want to know about the limitations on a private owner of Rhino Horn.


    1. No rhino may be dehorned without a permit, even if you are the legal owner of said rhino. The person who is responsible for the dehorning of the animal (normally the vet who will administer the tranquiliser) must have a permit that lawfully allows him/her to dehorn the specific animal.


    2. When the animal has been dehorned it must be given to the owner for safekeeping, and it is then the responsibility of the owner to apply for the necessary ‘ownership permit’.


    3. Under no circumstances will you, as owner, be allowed to trade in rhino horn – “trade” includes the import into the Republic, export from the Republic, selling or otherwise trading in, buying, receiving, giving, donating or accepting as a gift, or in any way acquiring or disposing of any specimen. Shortly, it means that you, the owner, must retain ownership of the rhino horn, and that there is no legal way to retain ownership of the rhino if you are not the owner of the rhino in question.


    4. The above also implies that under no circumstances you will be allowed to get rid of rhino horn without a permit (burn, bury, etc.).


    5. The death of any animal must immediately be reported at your nearest nature conservation office, and must apply for a ‘ownership permit’ as soon as possible.


    6. Any report of deaths must be accompanied by your application to own rhino horn.


    7. All relocated rhino must be marked with a micro-chip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Weaver View Post
    what zoologists rather quaintly call the “charismatic mega-herbivores”
    At the risk of being a pedant, and as an ex-zoologist can I correct that? We called them "charismatic mega-vertebrates" which included the big cats etc... Essentially any big animal people like to see to the exclusion of the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougN
    Oops, I stuffed this this one up totaly,

    My most humble apologies Tony.

    I "edited" instead of quoting the text ad ended up deleting your post.
    and there is no way to recover the original text
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    Thumbs down Rhino poaching at Borakalalo

    I heard today that another rhino carcass was found in Borakalalo NR this weekend.

    That makes it 12 for the year sofar. Considering that Borra only had about 60 rhino, that makes it about 20% their population.

    Doug, is there any way we can help Fops in this regard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morne Snyman View Post

    Doug, is there any way we can help Fops in this regard?
    busy talking to their counter poaching guys, need to do a follow-up tomorrow.


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    borakalalo is a hidden gem. but its a sad story. its like they forgot about the place. poaching has been going on for so long there the game is so skittish they run on site! and lately its not so safe either! last time i was there peoples cars got broken into, one guy woke up with a skelm inside his tent! nearly shot a hole through him with his .38 thas was hidden under his pillow!

    I like it there, would like to help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjbosbfk View Post
    borakalalo is a hidden gem. but its a sad story. its like they forgot about the place. poaching has been going on for so long there the game is so skittish they run on site! and lately its not so safe either! last time i was there peoples cars got broken into, one guy woke up with a skelm inside his tent! nearly shot a hole through him with his .38 thas was hidden under his pillow!

    I like it there, would like to help!
    When were you there last?

    There was a large game capture operation there within the past 2 months.

    As to the incidents you mention, I have been there 3 times in the past 2 months and have spoken to the HO's and anti-poaching guys and nobody has mentioned this type of incident.


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    I was there just before this past winter. camping at the dam, the bush camp was full.
    I spoke to a lone ranger driving an oldish suzuki vitara.
    i stopped next to him watching some sable ( the ones that was moved from pilansberg to stop the lions from killing all of them) and pointed the skittishnes of the game out to him.
    he told me that poaching is really bad and that they are struggling to keep up!
    Apparently the incident at the dam wasn't the first. they already had security on standby on weekends when the park is full, especially fishermen comming on long weekends.
    I had my suspitions on the cullprits but who am I to point!!!
    Judging by what they told you they are either ignorant to disclose bad info or they made some effort in stopping this. hope its the latter!!!

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    will followup on this


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    Hi Doug

    A good friend of mine was one of the game capturers at Botsalano(near Mafikeng)

    He reported rhino carcasses lying in the veld to the rangers(can't remember what he said their response was.)

    PM me if you need more details

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    sorry to reignite this one...

    I see it's not over despite the arrests and so on...

    A Rhino 'dump' at Letaba - part of the Kruger park - This is shocking, either the animals were herded there to kill or the carcasses were dragged there to hide - draw your own conclusions....

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...-park-20101118

    poaching on private game reserve near Hartes - clearly the poachers are not too worried about being discovered - they have guns after all...

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...cared-20101115

    and there is loads more....

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