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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques_Nel View Post
    I have to admit that we stumbled upon it just by chance and were not looking for it specifically.
    Quote Originally Posted by deanversfeld View Post
    I also just stumble upon it when I have looked for it.

    There are so many lekker sand obstacles that exist there, and every time I keep hoping we find the same as the previous but its not always that easy. The wind also moves the dunes a fair bit I can imagine too, but thats what makes it fun!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papsak View Post
    Nee man ouens... fokus.

    Check Post #2 & #3 from SimonB on this STICKY....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques_Nel View Post
    sorry... en Dankie Papsak
    Ag ek help waar ek kan.
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    Default Re: New Atlantis Dunes thread

    Anyone going to the dunes on Saturday?

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    We spent some time playing in the dunes on Sunday (06 Sep)...our first time there...

    Awesome place - can't believe we've never been before! Great for learning new skills and testing your (vehicles) ability in the sand. Highly recommended for anyone planning on extended sand driving (like West Coast, Moz, etc.) - play in the sandbox to make sure you know how to handle these conditions comfortably...

    Also able to assist a Ford Ranger that got stuck ...good to meet you Ali, hope you enjoyed the rest of your day...
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    Fun in the dunes & Ford Ranger Raptor recovery
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    Looks like you had yourself a good jol, tyres look like they were a bit hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZuluCowboy View Post
    Looks like you had yourself a good jol, tyres look like they were a bit hard.
    It was seriously good fun! We went down to 1.1 Bar which worked nicely...the Landy in our group did have a tyre pop off the rim, sufficiently to instantly deflate (quick sharp turns in the sand...aka donuts ) but we quickly pumped it back up and were good to go for the rest of the day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravens View Post
    I We went down to 1.1 Bar which worked nicely.....
    With BF's on my ranger, anything over 0.5 bar means I get stuck about 100 to 200 meters from the start gate.

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    Also, maybe to add what we learnt...lots of discussion about HR vs LR, VSC/ASC on/off, Traction control on/off

    For the V6 petrols - FJ & Pajero - we found that VSC/ASC should definitely be off (happens automatically when in LR)

    LR worked much better but we're also not in the habit of excessive speed when offroad

    Traction control (A-Trac in the FJ) helped in my opinion so that was left on

    4LR(auto) worked well for most situations but some steeper, longer dunes required 2LR to be locked...and all obstacles needed to be attacked with a fairly heavy right foot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wibob View Post
    With BF's on my ranger, anything over 0.5 bar means I get stuck about 100 to 200 meters from the start gate.
    Good to know...would explain the Ranger we needed to recover - he went down to 0.9 but his BF's seemed hard to me

    It seems different tyres deform differently at similar pressures - makes sense if you consider sidewall construction may be different...good idea to learn what works well for your specific tyre based on actual deformation rather than number of Bar...

    I'm running AT Scorpions which seem ok at around 0.9 - 1.1 Bar depending on how soft the sand is...I used 0.8 when touring the West Coast but that was summer and the sand was very soft...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravens View Post
    Good to know...would explain the Ranger we needed to recover - he went down to 0.9 but his BF's seemed hard to me

    It seems different tyres deform differently at similar pressures

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    Neat trick I learned at team offroad 4x4 school - 'rather than 0.5 bar for sand', go for 'the distance from rim to ground should decrease by half on sand'
    Or you know, that 'half' may be 3/4 or something different for you. The bfg's with their hard sidewalls have to go down much more to reach the same level of deformity as a softer tyre.
    But that is why we go test at atlantis, right? To find out what works for you.

    Was only my second time there this weekend, and I also learned the heavy right foot trick. Alas, my nudge bar didn't agree with that approach. I even think I saw you guys at one point.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravens View Post
    Good to know...would explain the Ranger we needed to recover - he went down to 0.9 but his BF's seemed hard to me

    It seems different tyres deform differently at similar pressures - makes sense if you consider sidewall construction may be different...good idea to learn what works well for your specific tyre based on actual deformation rather than number of Bar...

    I'm running AT Scorpions which seem ok at around 0.9 - 1.1 Bar depending on how soft the sand is...I used 0.8 when touring the West Coast but that was summer and the sand was very soft...
    Hi Raven, care if I join you next time with my Prado. Assuming that our MTS systems are the same, I am yet to find the best settings for sand driving.
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    Hi would like to join as well

    Have done Brakkenduine in EC, but are now in Darling.

    Our Amarok (M) has done Namaqua Coastal park and we hope to visit it again in the near future, so extra experience and some time behind the wheel for Mrs would be greatly appreciated.

    Please send us a note when next you plan a trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by wims_za View Post
    Hi would like to join as well

    Have done Brakkenduine in EC, but are now in Darling.

    Our Amarok (M) has done Namaqua Coastal park and we hope to visit it again in the near future, so extra experience and some time behind the wheel for Mrs would be greatly appreciated.

    Please send us a note when next you plan a trip
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceVentura View Post
    Hi Raven, care if I join you next time with my Prado. Assuming that our MTS systems are the same, I am yet to find the best settings for sand driving.
    Hi Jacques & wims,

    You are very welcome to join - the more the merrier, especially when we are all learning together...

    We were planning to return over the coming long-weekend (24-27 Sep) and maybe also fit in another family-friendly trail like Honingklip

    I'll let you know as soon as arrangements are finalised (i.e. once our wives decide )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravens View Post
    Hi Jacques & wims,

    You are very welcome to join - the more the merrier, especially when we are all learning together...

    We were planning to return over the coming long-weekend (24-27 Sep) and maybe also fit in another family-friendly trail like Honingklip

    I'll let you know as soon as arrangements are finalised (i.e. once our wives decide )
    I may also be interested in taking my "donkie kar" to the dunes this weekend and play around.
    That's if it's ok with me tagging along? (depending on how things goes here timewise), I am sure a lot of Ford v Toyota banter may take place and the Ford being pulled along everywhere
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    Default Re: New Atlantis Dunes thread

    Hi Gents
    Re tyre pressure for sand driving you need the biggest footprint the tyre can give, will try to explain how to work it out.

    1) park your vehicle on a hard surface let the right hand front tyre down by .2 of a bar and measure your footprint.
    This can be done by putting 2 x A4 pieces of paper at the front and the back of the tyre and then measure the tyre footprint. Between the paper
    Continue doing this reducing at .2 of a bar until your footring does not increase any more.
    Then take 2 x straight edges and measure from the bottom of the rim to the ground. That measurement will be your fixed measurement for quick reference
    The weight on the front wheel will remain constant You now have the measurement in mm from the ground to the top of the rim make a note of it.
    Check now what your tyre pressure is and that is the pressure for maximum footprint make a note of it This you will only need to do once.

    2) Do exactly the same at the right back wheel, same exercise,depending on how heavy the vehicle is loaded , fuel luggage etc you will again get the maximum tyre footprint. (this exercise you will need to do on your trips because it varies on the rear axel due to weight. So now you will have the maximum footprint and your wheels will be 100% in harmony no wind up on the drive train
    Your vehicle should run like a sand crab on the dunes.

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