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    Default Bilsteins for Gen3 from Shocks & Springs

    This thread wandered off the original topic and onto the issue of Bilstein shocks for the Gen3 Pajero, so I thought I should start a new one.

    I followed Gerhard's suggestion of contacting Jared Mathis at Shocks and Springs in the USA, asking whether they could supply the following Bilstein shocks (for the Pajero Gen3) to SA:

    Front Struts:Part Number BE5-6271
    Rear Shocks:Part Number BE5-6272

    Here is his reply:
    We can get you the Bilstein shocks you are looking for.


    We sell them for $99.75 each.


    Shipping to South Africa is approximately $80-$100 depending on the weight.


    If you do a group buy we can set up a discount. Let me know how many sets you need to get.


    I don’t have any coil springs or spacers available for you. If I come across some I will let you know.



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    Jared Mathis
    If my calcs are correct, that means that a set of shocks would cost less than R3500 landed before any duties are added. Gerhard, how much would the duties be? Still, it sounds a lot better than the R5000 to R7000 for the same items that I have heard quoted locally.

    For interest's sake, the price for a set of Ironman shocks (bought separately and not as part of a suspension upgrade kit) is about R3380.

    Putting together a suspension kit consisting of Ironman coils and Bilstein shocks is likely to cost around R6370 (allowing 10% for duties) compared to R5495 for the Ironman coil+shock kit.

    So Gen3 owners, what are your thoughts?
    Last edited by Gerrit Loubser; 2007/10/17 at 09:57 AM.
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    Sorry Gerrit I missed this one.

    Places like van Zyls Springworks etc also sells local made coils to similar dimensions for less then R1k if you install yourself or about R1K6 fitted (then they can sommer fit the shocks the same time

    My question is as follows. Will the damping rate of the Billsteins match thicker wire coils or are they made to work with stock coils? Are they adjustable? Can they send us a brochure or something?

    BTW the lowest price I got for the Monroe shocks was R3200 from Autozone in Centurion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benhur View Post
    Sorry Gerrit I missed this one.
    BTW the lowest price I got for the Monroe shocks was R3200 from Autozone in Centurion.





    Bennie ek het gister n quote gekry vir monroe shocks R2500 gefit en R1761.68 as ek dit self doen op die colt
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    Bennie, I suspect the Bilsteins will be matched to the original springs, but in Aussie they are very fond of using Bilsteins in conjunction with Lovells springs (probably very similar to Ironman if not the same) and are very happy with the handling balance that results. The Bilsteins are the B6 Sport model and are not adjustable.

    kenny, the Colt uses a completely different suspension setup than the Gen3 Pajero and the shocks would be quite a bit cheaper.
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    If you guys decide to place a group order, I will be in. Still waiting on a reply from Jared wrt availability of shocks for the landy though.

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    I am not sure I will be driving my Pajero that long so I do not think it will be worth my while spending the extra to get the Billsteins.

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    My Camry with 4 struts is also fitted with wheel alignment for R2500. But the R3200 from Autozone was the best price I got as other places quoted R 3550+ and the recommended retail price from Tenneco (suppliers) is over R5600.

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    I am rather limited to what I can fit. On Bilsteins I got quoted R2100 each (front) and R1950 each (back). Monroe would cost me R3650 fitted and lets face it, it's no Bilstein. At aprox $400 a set, I think the Bilsteins is a bargain.

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    You might not be able to service the Monroes but with a 5year guarantee I do not think I will have to worry about shocks again for as long as I keep the vehicle.

    The Monroes that I saw so far in action impressed the hell out of me.

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    Gerhard, how much would the duties be?
    Mine amounted to R25-00 !

    The amount could vary according to the gov. official picking up the piece of paper, I think!

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    Thanks Gerhard. No for twenty questions:
    1. How did you go about carrying out the transaction with Shocks & Springs?
    2. What did you do about insuring the shipment?
    3. How big a risk is one taking in terms of items getting lost in shipping?
    4. Should one consider couriering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrit Loubser View Post
    Thanks Gerhard. No for twenty questions:
    1. How did you go about carrying out the transaction with Shocks & Springs?
    2. What did you do about insuring the shipment?
    3. How big a risk is one taking in terms of items getting lost in shipping?
    4. Should one consider couriering?
    Many thanks.
    No problem.

    • Registered with PayPal (Jared assisted), paid by credit card
    • No insurance.
    • Used US Postal Services (Jared arranges this), who passed it onto our PostNet or watever they call themselves.
    • Give postal address for delivery
    • mine arrived, so I don't know about the risk
    • courier is very $$$$$
    Remember Bilstein is supposed to be the best and they can be re-built.

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    Gehard


    I understand the rebuilding and good warranty thing but who are you going to do a warranty claim against a US supplier. Will you have to ship it back and at who's cost. When the time comes who will rebuild them for you locally?
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    Bennie,

    Fair comments.

    At the price ($280) I am willing to risk it.

    The re-build can be done by any competent shop.

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    Cough Cough - Or you could get the Old Man Emus !!!

    Sorry can't help myself , I know they are expensive and the Bilsteins with Koni spring are sought after in Ausie land. But I have had only excelent service from my OME with added piece of mind in the local backup network. And NO I am not getting any sponsorship from them.

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    Ja maar somige van ons is maar armgatte wat elke sent 5 keer moet omdraai En dan is daar die ouens wat OME kan bekostig en bekostig om op die koop toe nog 'n Landy op die pad te kan hou teen R5 per km
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