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    Default Rear brake adjusters

    Does the Scorpio 2.6 glx 4x4 have auto adjusters on the rear brake drums or is it manually adjusted

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    MOST drum systems have auto-adjusters... BUT these adjusters never work, and you do need to manually adjust them (I'm talking in general now). Even my Triton drums (with auto-adjusters) needs to be manually adjusted.

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    The rear brakeshoes only adjust when you hit the brake in reverse. Try reversing and press the brake a few times, you'll feel the pedal will be higher and harder. Now when you drive forward and press the brake the mechanism locks at that setting.

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    Thanks S T. I think my rear brakes hasn't been adjusted as I have virtually no braking in the back. Wil try that, otherwise will go the manual route till it works again

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    These brakes cannot be adjust manually. They should adjust automatically, unless the lining is warn down and the adjuster is fully set.

    New lining should be about 5mm thick, it is very cheap to have new lining bonded onto the shoes. Any brake and clutch place can do it for you. When I remove and refit my brakeshoes, I set the adjuster to the minimum to make it easier to refit the springs. When I press the brake pedal after the drum has been refitted, it immediately adjusts back to the proper setting.

    I would firstly remove the drum and check the condition of the lining and clean everything up, it might be that the adjuster is stuck and not grabbing the ratchet to lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpio Turbo View Post
    These brakes cannot be adjust manually. They should adjust automatically, unless the lining is warn down and the adjuster is fully set.

    New lining should be about 5mm thick, it is very cheap to have new lining bonded onto the shoes. Any brake and clutch place can do it for you. When I remove and refit my brakeshoes, I set the adjuster to the minimum to make it easier to refit the springs. When I press the brake pedal after the drum has been refitted, it immediately adjusts back to the proper setting.

    I would firstly remove the drum and check the condition of the lining and clean everything up, it might be that the adjuster is stuck and not grabbing the ratchet to lock.
    I find it odd that the Scorpio would not have the traditional type of drum brake setup. I'd love to see a photo or diagram of it if it is the case.
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    Thanks S T, will take a look and come back with photographs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolf View Post
    I find it odd that the Scorpio would not have the traditional type of drum brake setup. I'd love to see a photo or diagram of it if it is the case.
    I would say it is the traditional setup, it has a ratchet that adjusts outward as the lining gets thinner. They are definataly not manually adjustable, there is no hole to poke a screw driver in and rotate anything. There is nothing to rotate in there. My caravan has manually adjustable drums with a hole and a wheel inside to rotate. So I do know the difference.

    I took some pics last night while putting the shafts back with new bearings, but for the love of all thing IT, the pics keeps giving some thumbnail error when uploading. I'll keep trying.

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    Here is some pics of when I replaced my rear brake shoes and had the drums skimmed.
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    Thats the one, this is the back of the shoe containing the adjuster. The ratchet automatically adjusts as the lining gets thinner.

    Last edited by SorentoMB; 2012/09/28 at 02:23 PM.

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    S T does R890 sound right for skimming drums and bond new lining and install?

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    Aah ST I see, makes perfect sense when I see it.

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    S T does R890 sound right for skimming drums and bond new lining and install?
    Louis that sounds a little rough. Starbrake in Edenvale quoted me R200 for relining of the shoes and skimming of the drums on my Wrangler.
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    CBS charged me R 224 incl VAT for both sides.

    Skimming and bonding.

    R 890 is not expensive is plain theft!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louisjvdw View Post
    S T does R890 sound right for skimming drums and bond new lining and install?
    Who charges such ridiculous rates?
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    Thats ridiculously expensive.
    I paid R200 for a rebond and that was expensive. You should not have to pay more than R300 for a skim and rebond.

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    Thanks for all that, luckily I did not take it to Rivonia Steering and Brake

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    I have opened my rear brakes and I have a different kind of adjuster. Will post pix later. Low and behold, the left brake is complete with the adjuster and all it springs. Right side no adjuster, springs and the adjuster screw is in totally the wrong place. No wonder there is no brakes

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    Louis.
    Those pics are for the 2005 4x4 GL Cruiser.
    Woild like to see how they differ on other year models.

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    Finally the pictures, first 2 is of the mechanism, spring and the screw adjuster all being in place on the left rear



    The next one shows the correct position for the tensioner and were the people put it

    Just look at how far it is down the brake shoe

    The big question is, where can I get the tensioning mechanism and spring and new tensioner?

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    I agree that the adjuster is not in place, but this is not the Shoe where the actual adjustment happens, this is the handbrake side. Please send us a pick of the other shoe aswell as the adjustment mechanism should be on that one.



    This is the shoe that does the adjustment, you should have something similar in the right hand side of the right side drum, a mirror image of this one?

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