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    Default The Complete Guide to Four Wheel Drive - 5th Edition

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    Introducing Andrew St.Pierre White's 12th 4x4 title:
    The Complete Guide to Four Wheel Drive.

    Now in its 5th Edition

    This is the fifth edition of this title. So what's new in this one? Many more vehicles in the vehicle buyer's guide, a guide renowned for objective, unbiased views and also includes the history on many vehicles as well as older models. There are expanded sections about solar charging in vehicles, camp lighting and torches, new equipment and lots more.
    I asked the author, who should buy this new book?
    "I know everyone interested in 4x4s will get a lot out of it, but by far the most value will be enjoyed by those dreaming about or intending getting into the four-wheel drive lifestyle. There is so much info out there. but here it is not only collected and complied into one hand-held source, the information is not swayed or influenced by advertisers.
    Yes, there are advertisers in the book, and they are there so that the book can be sold for under R100! More than one potential advertiser turned away when they read the editorial, because at times it pulls no punches. l have no intention of being influenced by them and it is well known that I regard some of SA's motoring magazines as no more than glorified brochures. Newspapers seem to be less so inclined.
    Here is a highly comprehensive collection of advice collected over my 25 years behind a 4x4" .
    For the first time, The Complete Guide to Four Wheel Drive, is in soft cover. Soft cover is more practical to be carried in a vehicle. It is A5 size, contains 330 full-colour pages with the following chapters:
    1. CHOOSING A 4X4
    2. VEHICLE BUYER’S GUIDE
    3. 4X4 AUXILIARY EQUIPMENT
    4. WHEELS AND TYRES
    5. DRIVING
    6. RECOVERY
    7. TRAILERS AND TOWING
    8. WILDERNESS TRAVEL
    9. MAINTENANCE AND BUSH REPAIRS
    10. NAVIGATION AND COMMUNICATION
    11. CONSERVATION
    12. INDEX
    Available as soft-cover book or as a pdf download.
    Book R99.99 (Available from June 15) 46Mbyte PDF download R45.00 (available NOW.)

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    I won't buy it but many people don't have an idea of what 4x4 is and for them it will be a valueable source of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierredW View Post
    I won't buy it but many people don't have an idea of what 4x4 is and for them it will be a valueable source of information.
    Agreed. I bought a version about a 2/3 years ago (when I was still dom), and must admin I found it hugely helpful, can definitely recommend it for anybody new to 4x4. The videos however I found a bit of a let down.

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    I got one of the first editions as a gift in '96 when I was still in school and not knowing anything about 4x4ing back then, it really helped me a lot. I've given some of the later editions as gifts to friend's and the first timers really enjoyed it.

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    same old same old

    same info
    - changed the wording
    - changed some pictures (newer cars for example)
    - change the paragraphs around

    net result ids i will not buy it

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    I have edition 4 and this new one in PDF form. If you don't own one of the editions yet, get it. I think there are some really valuable bits in here and he covers most of the questions posted regularly on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Lord **** View Post
    same old same old

    same info
    - changed the wording
    - changed some pictures (newer cars for example)
    - change the paragraphs around

    net result ids i will not buy it

    Michael Greeen
    There are many books on the markets which are merely updates. Nothing has changed really in the 4x4 market, other than new vehicles. Techniques remain the same, but a reader would be really annoyed buying a new book and reading about a 10 year old vehicle.

    I believe for anybody new to 4x4 the book is an excellent purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaDisco View Post
    Techniques remain the same, but a reader would be really annoyed buying a new book and reading about a 10 year old vehicle.

    I believe for anybody new to 4x4 the book is an excellent purchase.
    I will love it to read more about the older 4x4 and how they work. I found the previous book extremely helpful but it only gives you guidelines and you still need to do the practical.
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    I bought The Complete Guide to Four Wheel Drive - 13 part TV series on DVD. Great to sit back with a beer on a rainy weekend and watch all the tips on vehicles, accessories and camping. If you are not keen to read, go for the DVD's.
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    The basic info as discussed is good for new 4x4 owners but not more than what is discussed on this forum. The vehicle section to me is a history of Andrew's vehicles that he has owned and all his beefs and moans.

    I wonder if he owns a Mahindra now or are they just one of the sponsors?
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    I wouldn't buy this book. His facts are not always straight, just look at www.4xforum.co.za and read some of the reviews on the vehicles there... not even to mention his bias towards certain manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    I wouldn't buy this book. His facts are not always straight, just look at www.4xforum.co.za and read some of the reviews on the vehicles there... not even to mention his bias towards certain manufacturers.
    Jeepster

    If his bias was more towards GPs and less towards Toys would you have felt the same.

    Ek het die afrikaanse weergawe so paar jaar terug gekoop en voel dit was die geld werd. Ek het al slegter boeke as die gesien.

    So vir nuwelinge dink ek hiedie is 'n moet.

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    For a newbie there is nothing wrong with the book and the DVD that came with it. I got loads out of it and it's part of my holiday library.

    If you have one edition there is however no reason to buy another because the "updates" are pretty trivial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhur View Post
    Jeepster

    If his bias was more towards GPs and less towards Toys would you have felt the same.
    If I am biased towards Jeep it's fine, I'm not publishing books on the 4x4 subject. If however you publish books on 4x4 vehicles as he does, I think you should stick to the facts and do proper research on the vehicles you report on.

    I have paged through his books at some of the bookstores, and agree with you that in general his books will be quite helpful to an inexperienced buyer looking for advice. Can't comment on his video's.

    To quote from the cover of his book:
    Advise that is independant, honest and impartial
    You be the judge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    If I am biased towards Jeep it's fine, I'm not publishing books on the 4x4 subject. If however you publish books on 4x4 vehicles as he does, I think you should stick to the facts and do proper research on the vehicles you report on.

    I have paged through his books at some of the bookstores, and agree with you that in general his books will be quite helpful to an inexperienced buyer looking for advice. Can't comment on his video's.

    To quote from the cover of his book: You be the judge...
    Which vehicles do you think he was partial on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhur View Post
    Ek het al slegter boeke as die gesien.
    Stuur asb na Posbus 138, Buffeljagsrivier voor jou vrou dit kry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratsalad View Post
    Stuur asb na Posbus 138, Buffeljagsrivier voor jou vrou dit kry.
    You Rat - very sharp, I also want a couple of the "sleg boeke" so please send the balance to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizzerman View Post
    Which vehicles do you think he was partial on?
    Doen jouself die guns en stap by jou naaste Bargain Books in, hulle behoort nog van die ou boeke te he wat hulle amper verniet weggee. Blaai bietjie daardeur en laat weet my wat jy dink...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepster View Post
    Doen jouself die guns en stap by jou naaste Bargain Books in, hulle behoort nog van die ou boeke te he wat hulle amper verniet weggee. Blaai bietjie daardeur en laat weet my wat jy dink...
    Jeepster, I hope it is not going to start a Toyota versus Jeep war again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainer View Post
    Jeepster, I hope it is not going to start a Toyota versus Jeep war again
    Nope, wasn't looking for that, merely expressing my views on the book. And the vehicles in question were not only Toyota's and Jeeps... So I'll put a friendly smiley here... Seems everybody thinks I'm always on the warpath...

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