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    Good luck and hope you come right soon.

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    Here is what I would do:

    If you decide to have it fixed without trying the consumer act route, have the car taken to somebody like Landyworx. There are a few Landrover specialised workshops out there and your Motorite insurance should recognise them as a qualified workshop. I had a Motorite or Motorsure policy on my previous car and the policy didn't state "dealership workshops" as such, just recognised workshops or something to that extend. The insurance people know very well, that somebody like Landyworx would have at least the same experience level as the dealers, but won't overcharge you. I had my Jeep fixed at a smaller workshop and my policy paid. Just phone them and get their approval beforehand.

    In case you want to go the consumer act route, leave it at the stealers and try and fight them directly rather than going the Motorite route.

    In anyway, good luck! From all I hear the D3 is an awesome car and most owners are very happy. There are however these Monday or Friday vehicles, that seem to create endless problems, my Jeep was one of them. I feel for you (or your son).
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    Ok the car has been stripped body off etc, the engine stripped and found one of no3 Piston exhaust valves dropped its head off, this whacked the piston to pieces and also a hole in the head into the water jacket and therefore the reason the water running out the exhaust.
    I got my hands on the service records and history of this D3, I was wrong about the milage my son bought the car at, its actually on 85 000ks, so he has only done 20thou with it. On 83 000 the engine overheated and Land Rover Midrand repaired the engine, replaced headgaskets etc. This is only part of the story, believe me this D3 history reads like a horror strory, gearbox replaced once, repaired once, two torque converters, two brake boosters, water in the EGR valve, excessive smoking, water in the gearbox and it goes on.
    Now we wait to see who owns up and who pays for what, then we will fight the fight. But we have a D3 going for a good price.........full service history and all....

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    Wow Debronski that does read like a horror story. But trust me that is not the norm with the diesels, they are actually very reliable.

    How on earth does the valve break off like that? Wow a lot of stuff was replaced from when it was purchased new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debronski View Post
    Ok the car has been stripped body off etc, the engine stripped and found one of no3 Piston exhaust valves dropped its head off, this whacked the piston to pieces and also a hole in the head into the water jacket and therefore the reason the water running out the exhaust.
    I got my hands on the service records and history of this D3, I was wrong about the milage my son bought the car at, its actually on 85 000ks, so he has only done 20thou with it. On 83 000 the engine overheated and Land Rover Midrand repaired the engine, replaced headgaskets etc. This is only part of the story, believe me this D3 history reads like a horror strory, gearbox replaced once, repaired once, two torque converters, two brake boosters, water in the EGR valve, excessive smoking, water in the gearbox and it goes on.
    Now we wait to see who owns up and who pays for what, then we will fight the fight. But we have a D3 going for a good price.........full service history and all....
    Eeish! Eina! and Dammit. Question: Had your son research the vehicle first and had knowledge of that history, would he still have bought it. That is why with any vehicle you purchase always go into its history. If it is not available walk away from it.

    Now your dilema. A brand new TDV6 motor costs retail R66k plus vat. A good low mileage second hand unit would cost you between 40 and 50k complete with turbo and alles fitted. Motorite will have to foot a large portion of the bill here and as you mileage is not that high you should fall into pretty close to the replacement cost new. Getting them to come to the party you must keep Land Rover on the hooks. They were the ones who peddled the policy to you. Let the dealership do the job because at the end of the day they will have to carry a full years warranty and they can fight for payment. If you go the second hand motor route then Land Rover won't get involved and you will have to go the Indy route. You will need to think very carefully on which route to take.
    I would most definately not try and repair the existing motor. You already experienced the results of a previous repair job.

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    I've slowly but surely learnt that now "check the vehicles past service history" even if it's writen in a book. That service book isn't the Bible or any book of proof.
    With the amount of repairs that D3 experienced within 60000kms i'm not suprized the previous owner wanted to sell, or even if the previous owner pulled it through his / her ring piece.
    Just out of interest, i was browsing the "land rover" on junkmail yesterday and noticed D3 TDV6 engines for sale. You may want to have a look if thats the route you may go.... Good luck, and sorry for the circumstances!
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    Quote Originally Posted by debronski View Post
    Ok the car has been stripped body off etc, the engine stripped and found one of no3 Piston exhaust valves dropped its head off, this whacked the piston to pieces and also a hole in the head into the water jacket and therefore the reason the water running out the exhaust.
    I got my hands on the service records and history of this D3, I was wrong about the milage my son bought the car at, its actually on 85 000ks, so he has only done 20thou with it. On 83 000 the engine overheated and Land Rover Midrand repaired the engine, replaced headgaskets etc. This is only part of the story, believe me this D3 history reads like a horror strory, gearbox replaced once, repaired once, two torque converters, two brake boosters, water in the EGR valve, excessive smoking, water in the gearbox and it goes on.
    Now we wait to see who owns up and who pays for what, then we will fight the fight. But we have a D3 going for a good price.........full service history and all....
    Sounds to me one of those vehicles that either drowned down a slip way into a dam, or drowned in a river and stayed submerged for hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOS BEST View Post
    Sounds to me one of those vehicles that either drowned down a slip way into a dam, or drowned in a river and stayed submerged for hours.
    Mmmm I agree, there is just too much water in too many places where it shouldnt be.

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    I have a D3 tdv6 - and i always notice other tdv6 drivers thinking they drive a fast petrol v6 - diesels just dont like this way of driving - sorry my opinion.
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    Eish, not nice. This is now the 3rd TDV6 that I've heard of in a very short period with the sudden water loss problem. 2 of my friends drive TDV6's and both had the same problem. (aprox 130000km on clock) No warning, heatgauge going up nothing. Both engines just stopped and both was totally destroyed. New engine at stealers = R 150 000

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    I have always wondered how one can make a diagnoses without actually seeing the vehicle .
    Ok you have already had the diagnose now and the next step is whos going to pay.
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    Still we are waiting, Motor Rite nor the Dealer has taken any decision yet as to who will pay and how much

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    Hallo Joe.

    With all due respect my friend. Why posting a question on 4X4 Comm about a very delicate vehicle like a Disco 3 where a lot of us plastic bakkie brigade guys are reading about things happening in the 4X4 world, Maybe you should consider skipping the plastic advice and seek REAL advice from a respected dealer who works with Land Rover crap every day, don't you think so too?

    I had 3 Landy's, the one had more breakdowns than the other and with all the pain going with the plastic guys comments on trips and breakdown for NO reason, I decided enough is enough......this brand had the ability to wreck my whole pension provision!

    Like my late dad comment to me when I was an Appy and did all things to my car my buddies advices me to do......"do you think as a 3rd year Appy you have more knowledge than a team of engineers who did years of tests to these engines" Take the vehicle to people who at least will take responsibility for their advice and work.

    Sorry to be rude.....it's just very un understandable to me......

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    Quote Originally Posted by debronski View Post
    Ok the car has been stripped body off etc, the engine stripped and found one of no3 Piston exhaust valves dropped its head off, this whacked the piston to pieces and also a hole in the head into the water jacket and therefore the reason the water running out the exhaust.
    I got my hands on the service records and history of this D3, I was wrong about the milage my son bought the car at, its actually on 85 000ks, so he has only done 20thou with it. On 83 000 the engine overheated and Land Rover Midrand repaired the engine, replaced headgaskets etc. This is only part of the story, believe me this D3 history reads like a horror strory, gearbox replaced once, repaired once, two torque converters, two brake boosters, water in the EGR valve, excessive smoking, water in the gearbox and it goes on.
    Now we wait to see who owns up and who pays for what, then we will fight the fight. But we have a D3 going for a good price.........full service history and all....
    You have a lot of good advice coming your way from a really good bunch of people who care about other members as well as the brand. I cannot believe all the problems your sons car had and begs the question - who sold him the car - I would personally hold this person responsible as truth be told they lied through their teeth,,, secondly with all the repairs done by the Dealer surely within 20'000km they were fully aware of the history and should have said something. I agree that this vehicle sounds like a re-build or one that has suffered a major incident like drowning and has never been addressed properly,,,someone was cutting corners...what is even more disgusting is how there is a deafening silence from LR themselves. As for private Landy workshops there are a few that do have a passion about the work they do and Peter at Landy Worx has earned a solid reputation as has Landy Tech in Boksburg. - Truly wish you well and a good fight - don't give up.

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    Sorry to hear about this

    If people here report similar occurrences on similar vehicles, then LR Midrand must have known what your son walked into when he bought the car, no doubt

    It would be wrong if you pay for it, they should be taught a lesson, I say go the full route of the consumer protection act

    Then they made a few more rands out of you by selling a useless policy to you too

    Shame on LR, this is not the way to treat faithful followers of their brand
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    I own a 2005 Disco 3 HSE and have had some issues with it. This has been sorted out by Hollard Insurance. I really recommend them.They paid out even AFTER I had work done on the vehicle.

    My Disco overheated and the Land Rover mecahnic says that the head gasket did not suffer any damage. Should I replace the head gasket in any case or just hope that because I see no head gasket problem symptoms that the gasket is fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanGT View Post
    I own a 2005 Disco 3 HSE and have had some issues with it. This has been sorted out by Hollard Insurance. I really recommend them.They paid out even AFTER I had work done on the vehicle.

    My Disco overheated and the Land Rover mecahnic says that the head gasket did not suffer any damage. Should I replace the head gasket in any case or just hope that because I see no head gasket problem symptoms that the gasket is fine?
    Hi Johan

    How did they assess there was no damage to the head gasket? Is it using water? Was the gasket replaced only? Did the skim the head?

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    Speak to Jack Oosthuizen at Land Rover Mega Centre (011 979 5095) -they are total LR fanatics. When the gearbox of my 130 TD5 started going on the blink and the LR agency charged me R26 000 to fix the damn thing, they came through and did everthing and then some for approximately R10 000 if I remember correctly. Where LR took 2 weeks just to get the gearbox open and give me a quote, Jack had it open in 24 hrs and fixed within 5 working days.

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    Hi I am sorry to hear about all your trouble. I just came back from a long weekend trip in my 2008 Disco 3 (TD V6) from the Lowveld. It has got 110 000 km on the clock with no major problems whatsoever.
    I had it serviced at British 4x4 on Friday before we left ,and they replaced the thermostathousing and coolant. According to Johnathan from Britsh 4x4 it is a common problem that the thermostathousing start cracking and subsequintly lose water causing overheating. Up until Fridays service,the vehicle hads been serviced by the agents,but being out of all the warranties, I will definitly send it back to British 4x4 for its future services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeran View Post
    Hi I am sorry to hear about all your trouble. I just came back from a long weekend trip in my 2008 Disco 3 (TD V6) from the Lowveld. It has got 110 000 km on the clock with no major problems whatsoever.
    I had it serviced at British 4x4 on Friday before we left ,and they replaced the thermostathousing and coolant. According to Johnathan from Britsh 4x4 it is a common problem that the thermostathousing start cracking and subsequintly lose water causing overheating. Up until Fridays service,the vehicle hads been serviced by the agents,but being out of all the warranties, I will definitly send it back to British 4x4 for its future services.
    All the best
    Jeran le Roux
    Hi Jeran
    That is called preventitive maintenance. That thermostat housing/manifold equates to the exact problem we had with the TD5 blank off which is overcome by fitting a silicone pipe fix. If your Disco 3 is coming up to 100k kms or over you must replace it. A good investment for +/- R300 and a hours labour. Much cheaper than a break down or catastrophic engine failure,
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