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    Question Anyone know this WJ?

    Hi guys

    This WJ CRD has been for sale on Gumtree for a long time, does anyone know this particular vehicle?

    http://capetown-westerncape.gumtree....AdIdZ298796904

    Metallic Brown 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 2.7 CRD with some mods.


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    A picture of the Grand Cherokee.
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    The problem is the guy started out his price at R140K ... WAY TOO MUCH! I still think at R105K it is a bit high for the year model and mileage.

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    Hi Allan. At R105k that looks like a bargain to me. Those mods and tires are at least R30k if properly done. Looks nice hey !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0l1v3r View Post
    Hi Allan. At R105k that looks like a bargain to me. Those mods and tires are at least R30k if properly done. Looks nice hey !
    You right it does look great ... something to aspire too ...

    Its not the mods I'm worried about ... its whether the engine has been serviced correctly ... that vehicle will be due for injectors soon ... $$$$$ ... if the servicing and replacement of parts has been done as it should have been then it is a bargain ...

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    I have seen this WJ. It looks good. It belongs to a very cool lady driver.
    Mark from Maniac4x4 fitted the coolest looking(that I have ever seen) front propshaft to that Jeep. Mark knows that Jeep well, so give him a ring.
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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Everyone seems to prefer V8 GC's, but I'm still very interested in getting a CRD version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJones View Post
    Everyone seems to prefer V8 GC's, but I'm still very interested in getting a CRD version.
    The general consensus on the forum is that a 2nd hand petrol is a lot safer bet than a 2nd hand diesel and that in the long run the extra costs for maintenance on the diesel will pretty much even out with the saving in fuel.

    That said though you have to know before hand that the V8 is not light on fuel and prepare yourself for that accordingly !

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    And for the fact that older WJ's LOVE to overheat!! Almost every 4.7 owner here has at some point had heat issues with it.

    Incidentally, I spoke to a guy who owns a radiator place about a month ago at the club and he reckons the radiator isn't suitably sized for the size of the engine and the SA climate (thats just one of the issues). So before I did anything I would have it replaced with a better one and probably a better system. Something to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0l1v3r View Post
    The general consensus on the forum is that a 2nd hand petrol is a lot safer bet than a 2nd hand diesel and that in the long run the extra costs for maintenance on the diesel will pretty much even out with the saving in fuel.
    That said though you have to know before hand that the V8 is not light on fuel and prepare yourself for that accordingly !
    Well stated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenthouseNinja View Post
    And for the fact that older WJ's LOVE to overheat!! Almost every 4.7 owner here has at some point had heat issues with it.
    Incidentally, I spoke to a guy who owns a radiator place about a month ago at the club and he reckons the radiator isn't suitably sized for the size of the engine and the SA climate (thats just one of the issues). So before I did anything I would have it replaced with a better one and probably a better system. Something to consider.
    Is there a bigger radiator available for the 4.7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenthouseNinja View Post
    And for the fact that older WJ's LOVE to overheat!! Almost every 4.7 owner here has at some point had heat issues with it.
    Sjo, the first time I hear of this. At least I am not a statistic then yet ! My temperature stays pretty much just under the 100 mark, never went over 100 so far.

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    Examples taken from our problems thread:

    Model:Grand Cherokee V8
    Year:2001

    Mileage:180000
    Problem:Fan blower, Powersteering pump, window winder x3, Engine blown, fuel pump plus many smaller
    Cause of problem(if known): Terrible Product
    Specifics of repair work carried out: as above
    Cost of repair: in above order..3000, 9000,8000,53000,4000, 20000, tow in x5 10000, flights for family from holiday 6000 R113000
    Who did the repair:mostly Jeep Polokwane, engine PMBurg Jeep
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N:Aftermarket CWA
    Was damage covered by warranty: R1000 for engine

    Model: Grand Cherokee Ltd V8 (WJ)
    Year: 2000

    Mileage: 153 000
    Problem: Loss of Coolant
    Cause of problem(if known): Radiator cracked
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Replace radiator
    Cost of repair: R 3700.00
    Who did the repair: Silvertons, Strand
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: N/A


    Model: WJ 4.7 V8
    Year: 2003
    Mileage: 124000 km
    Problem: Loosing coolant,
    Cause of problem(if known): Small crack in left plastic radiator tank.
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Replace Radiator
    Cost of repair: R3100 + antifreeze
    Who did the repair: Me, myself and I
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: n/a

    Model: WJ 4.7 V8
    Year: 2002
    Mileage: 134000 km
    Problem: Loosing coolant,
    Cause of problem(if known): Small crack in left plastic radiator tank.
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Replace Radiator
    Cost of repair: R3100 + antifreeze
    Who did the repair: Pretoria Off Road
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: n/a

    Model: WJ 4.7 V8
    Year: 2002
    Mileage: 150000 km
    Problem: Loosing coolant,
    Cause of problem(if known): Large crack in RHS plastic radiator tank.
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Replace Radiator
    Cost of repair: Zero: replaced under warranty from Pta Offroad
    Who did the repair: Pretoria Off Road
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: Yes

    Model: Grand Cherokee Ltd WJ V8 4.7L
    Year: 2000
    Mileage: 207000km
    Problem: Coolant leak
    Cause of problem(if known): Fuel pump plus radiator
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Fuel pump replaced, then noticed bigger leak, radiator gone.
    Cost of repair: R7000 fuel pump from dealer, R7000 radiator from 3rd party
    Who did the repair: Inyanga Motors Empangeni and then East Coast Radiators
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: Y (bought a Motor-rite warranty with the car at 190000km)
    Was damage covered by warranty: Yes remarkably covered R3000 of fuel pump and R6000 of radiator. Made our money back on the warrenty [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Useless/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG]

    Model: Grand Cherokee Ltd 4.7 V8
    Year: 2000
    Mileage: 192 000 km
    Problem:
    Cylinder head gaskets blown (both banks)
    Cause of problem(if known):
    The repair shop that fitted the electric cooling fan, mentioned in the above post, did not not bleed the cooling system after removing and refitting a radiator hose. This caused an air lock that restricted coolant circulation.
    Specifics of repair work carried out:
    Cylinder heads pressure tested, skimmed valve seats re-cut and gaskets replaced
    Cost of repair: R 13 500
    Who did the repair:
    Auto Service Centre, Paarden Eiland
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: No - Original repair shop paid for repairs.

    Model: 4.7 HO GC Overland (WJ)
    Year: 2002
    Mileage: 180,000
    Problem: Dropped valve seats
    Cause of problem(if known): Overheating due to rubbish factory radiator
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Reconditioned heads
    Cost of repair: R20,840
    Who did the repair: Pretoria Off Road
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: NO
    Was damage covered by warranty: NO
    Further Comment: This seems to be a common problem on the 4.7 V8 engine once it gets to around 180,000 kms. See next posting....

    Model: 2001 4.7 V8 Ltd (WJ)
    Year: 2001
    Mileage: 200,000
    Problem: Dropped valve seat
    Cause of problem(if known): Mechanic suspected overheating, but it never ever overheated
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Reconditioned both heads. Replaced no. 1 piston.
    Cost of repair: R22 000
    Who did the repair: Precision Auto - Montague Gardens
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: NO
    Was damage covered by warranty: NO
    Problem solved satisfactorily: Yes, but engine now misfires. Cause unknown.

    Model: Grand Cherokee
    Year: 2001 WJ
    Mileage: 181000km
    Problem: Overheating
    Cause of problem(if known): Waterpump failure
    Specifics of repair work carried out: Replaced water pump and belt, also hear a small whining noise from the engine when water pump failed (it was the waterpump that made the noise)
    Cost of repair: Antifreeze (R210.00) + Waterump (R850.00) + Labour (R875.00)
    Who did the repair: American SUV
    Vehicle under warranty, Y/N: N
    Was damage covered by warranty: N/A
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    And thats just the ones who bothered to put it up. I've read of alot more guys with heating problems that didn't post it. Easy not to see things when you don't want to look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenthouseNinja View Post
    Easy not to see things when you don't want to look.
    LOL, I stand corrected !

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    Quote Originally Posted by PenthouseNinja View Post
    And thats just the ones who bothered to put it up. I've read of alot more guys with heating problems that didn't post it. Easy not to see things when you don't want to look.
    Something tells me you really enjoyed posting this
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    Overheating due to a faulty radiator is not an inherent overheating problem, it is more like a poor designed(assembled) radiator.The radiator is definitely not to small.
    I never had an overheating problem with my V8 Overland, towing the Xplorer in the heat of the day over the lowveld's mountain passes, but it was also necessary for me to replace the radiator on about 120,000ks.(it warned me well in time)
    What I want to say is that these Jeeps are not prone to overheating, as long as the standard radiator and cooling system are intact.
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    I never ever had problems with over heating on my WJ eaven when driving it hard off road.
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    Hi

    From Ninja's quote's it does seem to affect more of the early model WJ's, but that might just be a coincidence.

    As 0l1v3r remarked, it is however exactly, the fuel consumption figure that turns me towards the CRD version. Especially since I get diesel a little cheaper on the company's account, and I find the CRD version powerful and fast enough. Knowing myself, and having that V8 power, I just can't justify 5km/l.

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