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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Agreed on all accounts.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Depends on the application if the Prado TX could do the job.

    There were things about the Defender that were better to many people than the LC70, it's why they didn't buy a LC70 in the first place....
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    https://www.wheels24.co.za/offroad_and_4x4/bakkie_and_suv/how-the-new-ineos-grenadier-is-a-better-suv-than-the-mighty-defender-20200707?_sp=cebf53bf-fe60-4b53-8676-fa622c1ab8a9.1594571419297
  4. Thread: Is this it?

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    Re: Is this it?

    The more expensive Range Rover Sport and Range Rover sold?
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    Defender Re: TD5 crank position sensor: Where is it mounted?

    Could the CPS cause the vehicle to struggle to start and then vibrate like an old Lister for a few seconds before it settles on a cold day?
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    Re: Td5 Warped Exhaust Manifold

    I recently ordered a set of Wurth studs and nuts from British 4x4 in Pretoria. R 207 for the set. I paid for the courier.
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    Discovery 2: Re: Local offroad wheels that fit Discovery 2

    Jeepman. Perhaps I'm a little slow this morning, but you already have 16" rims?

    I'm struggling to figure out what you're wanting to do?

    I have these. Not my vehicle, just to show the rims.
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    Discovery 2: Re: Local offroad wheels that fit Discovery 2

    What rims is yours running on?

    I have a set of 16" rims with BFG AT tyres on, if we can get them to you?
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    Discovery 2: Re: Local offroad wheels that fit Discovery 2

    16" rims are a standard size for the Discovery 2?
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    My concern with the BMW motor is not if it is reliable or not, they have a very good reputation but will they be able to deal with poor quality fuel at the general dealers that many rural people buy...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Are they still available new? The Y61?
  12. Thread: Is this it?

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    Re: Is this it?

    My grammar letting me down again. Fixed.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Yes and the previous generation Patrol Wagon, most underrated vehicles, and so easily forgotten.
  14. Thread: Is this it?

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    Re: Is this it?

    Useful technology.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Which excite many people, so there is a massive market, but it's not what everyone wants.

    We should also not forget necessary technology, so for example it is unlikely that an engine will meet...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Yes. There is a difference between use full technology, and technology for the sake of technology.
  17. Thread: Is this it?

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    Re: Is this it?

    Sure. That makes sense.

    You didn't punish yourself by driving the old Defender for years and now that that New one is launched you've finally decided that, well, actually, what you need is not a...
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    The New Defender is built for this, so other than the price, it makes perfect sense.

    Still not sure why you were driving the old one?

    Maybe I'm not woke enough to get it?;D
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    Re: Is this it?

    I'm glad you posted this because I've always been curious as to why someone would replace their old Defender with the New one. Considering they are so completely different.

    Why did you punish...
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    Re: Is this it?

    D3 and D4 hasn't exactly covered itself in glory.

    Didn't you own a D3, and now you drive an archaic solid axle ox-wagon?

    I was also a fan of the D3, until we owned one, I was very quickly cured...
  21. Thread: Is this it?

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    I don't expect Grenadier to outsell the New Defender, but the Grenadier is what many old Defender owners want and it's what the Old Defender was, it's the Old Defender, upgraded.

    The school run...
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    Re: Is this it?

    Yes. Or something like Isuzu 4J range of motors.
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    Not sure what argument needs to be settled or what the Grenadier has to do with it?

    If you're after a complex luxurious family bus and you have money to burn, then the New Defender should be the...
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    Settle what argument?
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Yip. Which is a great vehicle, but it's not the old defender, which could be a good or bad thing, depending on what you're after.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Many of us drove Defenders, not Land Rovers.

    Imagine a Defender but without having to deal with all the hassle that comes with buying a Land Rover.
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    Re: Is this winch on back to front?

    Perhaps he turned it around due to there not being enough space between the grill and the winch for the cables?
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    Re: New Defender arrived today

    It may be the case that in the photo the vehicle is standing nose up because it is in access mode, does the vehicle stand nose up in locked access mode?

    If a modern air-sprung Land Rover is not...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    Not a Defender no.. but in principle the same as the New Defender. Complex monocoque, chassis, independently air sprung suspension luxury off-road family bus.

    The point I originally made, was...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    I'm not sure why the surprise.. the Touareg with the off-road package is a very decent off-roader.

    Not a workhorse, but a capable off-roader.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    I'm not comparing with the Defender, I'm comparing with the New Defender.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    So is a Touareg with the off road package.
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    They are not direct competition to one another.. the Grenadier will be targeting the Land Cruiser 70 market. The New Defender is in the same market as the Touareg.



    Looks are irrelevant, it's a...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    I once said that Land Rover were playing catch-up with the new Defender and of course I was ridiculed.

    The New Defender is not new, this type of vehicle has been around for decades.

    I wonder...
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    Re: Ineos Grenadier revealed!!

    It's also be great if they offer an entry level version. 110 kW 360 N.m 4 cylinder motor, or N/A BMW six, with a manual gearbox. Only the basic luxuries, A/C, power steering, single DIN radio with...
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