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Old 13-11-10, 10:46 AM
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If anyone is looking for 12V waterproof, flexible LED light strips, similar to the Lumeno make, being sold at Outdoor Warehouse and Campworld and advertised in most outdoor / vehicle magazines. Tisonics in Booysens, JHB have them at a reasonable price. The strips come in 5cm lengths with 3 LEDs per 5cm length. The strips are made up (cut and wired) to a length of your choice, attach to most surfaces using 3M double sided tape, the best on the market. The only disadvantage is that they do not have an On/Off switch, this you would have to put in; I am sure a normal beside lamp switch would suffice. They come in a variety of colours as well (red, green, blue, yellow and white).

The going rate for a Lumeno flexible 31cm or 9 LED is between R169-00 and R189-00. A 41cm or 12 LED costs between R199-00 to R219-00.

The Tisonics strips cost:
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3)30cm @ R75-00 (18 LED)
4)40cm @ R100-00 (24 LED)
5)1m @ R250-00
6)5m @ R1250-00

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Die skakelaars is beslis nie so duur nie, ons het gekoop in boksburg vir onder R10 een en hul werk fantasties,. sal beslis hierdie ou bel vir led strips, dit klink goed.

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Hi Witklipbank! Bought switches at Builders for R6-00 and In-Line Fuse holders for about R20-00 from Midas just to be on the safe side. So for about R100-00 you are kitted with the some decent lighting.
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Hi guys

Just a word of caution, they are not as bright as the Lumeno.

I have bought 1m from tisonics, but they are far from the same output as the Lumeno and also if you get to approximately the same lux, your current draw is also higher than Lumeno.

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Just a word of caution, they are not as bright as the Lumeno.

....they are far from the same output as the Lumeno and also if you get to approximately the same lux, your current draw is also higher than Lumeno.
Is there a way that somone can test/verify this or is it "subjective". I have just bought a few strips (from AndyF of this forum) and installed it in my Commander.

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I bought a strip with 6 lights recently at Outdoor Warehouse and it did have a switch. Installed it in the back of my Disco, running of the deep cycle in the back, with a fuse. It works well, but the adhesive tape is rubbish. Nothing that duct tape can't sort out though

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Old 24-08-15, 12:32 PM
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Ek wil weet of die Lumeno LED strip lights wat mens los koop (by Agrimark) sal werk in die 2 proppe op die agterkant van die Echo4?

Die middelste foto wys hoe die prop aan die LED strip lyk.

Op die foto van die Echo 4 het ek aangedui waar die 2 proppe op die wa is.


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If you are pointing at the hella plug them yes those lumeno's will work just fine but you'll need to buy the male hella socket - I use 4 of them on my Echo 5 and they are fantastic!
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Old 25-08-15, 12:51 PM
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Thank you ned&zed

Can I simply replace the plug that is fitted on the strip when I buy it? How long is the cable/wire that the light is sold with?
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Maybe this will answer your question...

The white extention lead is available in various lengths up to 3m. The spliter chord has 4 outlets and the male hella plug fits into your trailers outlet. The leads on the light are around 20cm long.
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Where can one buy the 4 into 1 lead(black)?

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Fox and Sons are suppliers under the Lumeno brand.

http://lumenoled.co.za/led-light-products/accessories

Lumeno is a commercial member on the forum.

Outdoor Warehouse usually stocks a good range of LED cables, adapters,

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Old 25-08-15, 10:22 PM
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Outdoor warehouse, campworld, makro, echo 4x4, tentco..... The list goes on but prices vary!
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Shop round for 5mm LED's they give better light, switches from electronic shop (lockable tag switch).
My version looks like this with a 3 way toggle switch and yellow heat shrink over it to chase the goggas.
Off, 6 LED's and 12 LED's for portable ones
Stuck permanently to Echo on kitchen side with tag switch
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Thank you very much ned&zed. This looks exactly like what I had in mind.

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Maybe this will answer your question...

The white extention lead is available in various lengths up to 3m. The spliter chord has 4 outlets and the male hella plug fits into your trailers outlet. The leads on the light are around 20cm long.
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Ok, so you have your lights for your canopy, question is, how do you fix/glue your wires for your LEDS to the body of the canopy/trailer??

What form of adhesive do you use??

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Sicaflex for the light and gluegun for the wire

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Thank you Guys!

I am now sorted. The setup as per ned&zed works fine.

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I bought those light switches that are seen on the ODW led lights from ODW. Can't remember price, it looks similar to a bed lamp switch but smaller having a push button.

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The acid test is how much do these led light strips draw and what kind of AH battery you can get away with to run them a decent time eg 2.5 hrs a night for 5 nights. For guys who do not have a dual battery system or solar charging - you would be looking to eg a sla 7.2ah (motor cycle size) battery. Hooking led strips of a decent light output to such a battery would create great mobility when using the lights. But as I said will a sla 7.2ah battery do the business?

I am busy converting to such a camping lighting system at the moment and putting a sla 7.2ah (non-deep cell) through some thorough testing with an led strip in a nice housing I found at one of the Chinese shopping centres. The light is stated to be 1.5 watts (it produces plenty of light - in fact needs to be yellowed down). I am taking the state of charge in the battery with the light connected and on (loaded) down to 10.5 volts (as recommended by an electrical engineer to be as low as you should go with this type of battery) before recharging on a slow/trickle charger for 14-16 hrs. Going to do this 4-5 times so it will take a while. Then the reality will be known. I really hope, one can get 2.5hrs of light per night for at least 5 nights before recharging is required. I know temperature and age and level of care of the battery etc play a role but lets see.

Theoretical calculations suggest this is possible but with electrickery anything is possible! Amazing to think school science teachers back in the 70s and early 80s taught electricity as if they had a total understanding of and handle on the subject. Yea right!
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The acid test is how much do these led light strips draw and what kind of AH battery can you get away with to run them a decent time eg 2.5 hrs a night for 5 nights. For guys who do not have a dual battery system or solar charging - cost wise you would be looking to eg a sla 12V 7.2ah (motor cycle size) battery. Hooking a led strip producing a decent decent light output to such a battery would create great mobility when using the lights. But as I said will a sla 12V 7.2ah battery do the business?

I am busy converting to such a camping lighting system at the moment and putting a reasonably priced (relatively cheap) sla 12V 7.2ah (non-deep cell) through some thorough testing with an led strip in a nice housing I found at one of the Chinese shopping centres. The light is stated to be 1.5 watts (it produces plenty of light - in fact needs to be yellowed down). I am taking the state of charge in the battery with the light connected and on (loaded) down to 10.5 volts (as recommended by an electrical engineer to be as low as you should go with this type of battery) before recharging on a slow/trickle charger for 14-16 hrs. Going to do this 4-5 times so it will take a while. Then the reality will be known. I really hope one can get 2.5hrs of light per night for at least 5 nights before recharging is required. I know temperature and age and level of care of the battery etc play a role but lets see.

Theoretical calculations suggest this is possible but with electrickery anything is possible!
Here's the 1st round test result. Draw of the Chinese LED light strip - 230ma. It is also actually closer to a 3W light than the claimed 1.5W. Running it from a 7.2AH 12 volt Sealed Lead Acid (SLA) battery - Light can actually only be run for 5hrs before voltage under load (with light on) reaches 10.5V. So that's it - only 5hrs if you want to avoid damaging the battery by discharging it too low (ie lower than 10.5 V when under load - light on). So much for the theoretical calculations.

But, with the modest cost of this simple relatively compact and light weight set up I can live with this result as the light, even when quite heavily yellowed down, seriously pushes back the surrounding darkness over about a 160 degree arc.

With three batteries, running the light 1,5 hrs a night during the busy food prep, braaing, washing up time in the early evening - gives you 10 nights. Anything less, the average run time per night can then safely be increased. Eg over 6 nights, with a total of 3 batteries you could run this light over the more ideal 2,5 hrs per night. This led strip light can also easily be substituted with a 3W 12V round led globe (which you could also yellow down) - if good, general camp site light is the priority.

It was noted that the led strip which has an alu ribbed backing to dissipate heat, does get pretty hot until the voltage of the battery drops down from the 13v fully charged range down to the 12V range (measured under load). With this type of battery the voltage, under load, fairly steadily and slowing drops like a timer slowly clocking down. Unless the basic resistors in the led strip and which regulate the voltage to the actual leds are replaced with some expensive component designed to both prevent this energy loss through heat dissipation and only allow 12V through the actual leds - this initial wasted energy loss through heat which is fairly serious, is just a fact of life. It is apparent that it is this initial heat and the associated energy loss that make the basic theoretical calculations which suggest a far longer light time invalid.

Bottom line there is still a place for the good old paraffin or candle powered hurricane lantern and/or 1.2v AA/AAA rechargeable battery powered lantern especially when relaxing after the evening chores and the evening meal is done.
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Het julle n fuse gebruik as julle 220v gebruik met die lumeno ligte? Ek het 4 gekoop wat magneties is en n 4way splitter met n 5ah power supply wat die 12v oor sit na 220v toe en dit om die trailer gesit. Drade gemonteer van al die plekke na een sentrale plek so dit plug in and play dan. Nogals helder liggies.
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