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Old 04-04-10, 01:17 PM
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Hi guys,

Im interested in a jimny with a 2-inch lift kit and want to know what you guys think about it? Are there any problems I should know of? Any effects on the differential?

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Old 04-04-10, 01:22 PM
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Im interested in a jimny with a 2-inch lift kit and want to know what you guys think about it? Are there any problems I should know of? Any effects on the differential?
Hi zkramm,

Which make of lift kit is it?
Were the springs and dampers replaced, or just springs - or is it just a spacer lift?
Who fitted the kit and where are you buying it from (warranty issues)?

This info will help alot...

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Old 04-04-10, 01:26 PM
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Any effects on the differential?
That is an odd question. What have you heard that made you ask that?

A Jimny has 2 differentials, one in the front axle and one in the rear axle. Suspension has absolutely no effect on the differential itself. The differential ratio can become a problem when you increase the tyre size and differantial damage can occur when running larger tyres and the vehicle is severely abused.
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Old 04-04-10, 05:43 PM
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JimnyAR lifted his Jimny by inserting SPACERS.

BUT, this means the standard shocks dont work.

He then got "shock-spacers".

Thus spacers ontop of the coil springs AND spacers to extend the shocks.

From what I heard JimnyAR is HAPPY with this setup.

PS - I have a set of these coil spacers which JimnyAR imported for me. Since I sold the Jimny I never used these spacers. For R700 you can have these, including SpeedServices delivery to anywhere in South Africa. PM me if you are interested.

This works out a LOT cheaper than OME, or similar.
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This works out a LOT cheaper than OME, or similar.
BUT, still has the Jimny standard ride...which is fine. But then don't drive in or behind a Jimny with OME because you'll be very jealous.

Let me back up my statement. I drove behind a std Jimny on the dirt road from the base of Black Mountain to Sani-top Chalet...while he was bouncing around and avoiding potholes...Old Man Emu kept us on rails; straight and true.

Just stirring the pot a little.

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Old 05-04-10, 12:20 PM
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TJM also makes a liftkit for the Jimny. I can even supply you with castor correction kits if needed. There is also a very good snorkel from TJM.
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Old 05-04-10, 12:39 PM
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i've inquired about a TJM lift kit for my Jimny, and i was told they might have one soon, but that it is not available yet.

I mailed a few companies, and all of them told me this...

So i ordered OME. I still need Castor correction bushes though. Do you sell these?

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Hi guys.

Aren't any of you in the slightest bit worried about how the warranty on the Jimny will be affected when fitting OME or TJM?

Suzuki Bryanston told me that OME is not approved by Suzuki SA and fitting it will affect your warranty! How I don't know though.

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Old 06-04-10, 05:04 PM
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I have received this e-mail today ( 07April 2010 )

Good Day,

Please note that the standpoint on this issue is as follows:

The vehicle is to maintain the standard level as introduced into the market.
If any changes are made to the vehicle, Suzuki cannot be held responsible for any damage that may have resulted from those changes.

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Old 06-04-10, 08:49 PM
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Hi guys.

Aren't any of you in the slightest bit worried about how the warranty on the Jimny will be affected when fitting OME or TJM?

Suzuki Bryanston told me that OME is not approved by Suzuki SA and fitting it will affect your warranty! How I don't know though.
Suzuki has a very tough stance on this, as shown in Jimny AR's post.

A few other manufacturers have woken up to the realities of the 4x4 client.

Buy a new 4x4, full waranty.

Add snorkel - ONLY the body waranty on the affected panel looses its warantee.
Add an OME - ONLY that part of the suspension warantee is affected
you get the picture.

Some brands still have to catch up with what the SA client expects ....
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Old 08-04-10, 03:54 PM
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That is an odd question. What have you heard that made you ask that?

A Jimny has 2 differentials, one in the front axle and one in the rear axle. Suspension has absolutely no effect on the differential itself. The differential ratio can become a problem when you increase the tyre size and differantial damage can occur when running larger tyres and the vehicle is severely abused.
This is very good news. I want to do a 3" Calmini lift on my SWB Vitara and I have been worried about the effect on the drivetrain components with this kind of lift...or is the situation different with independent front suspension when you lift the vehicle over 50mm ?

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Old 08-04-10, 04:07 PM
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You can lift a car 200mm if you really want to, but you must keep in mind that the higher you go, the greater the chances are of other complications.

The castor angle decreases, so you would have to compensate for that. Either modify the diff, or put in castor correction bushes. This is on a sfa like the jimny.

Your propshaft angles also increase. The more you lift it, the greater the angle of the propshaft relative to the diffs and transfer case. This in turn can cause vibration or premature wear of your universals.

This is why most well known aftermarket lift kits lift between 40 and 50mm. That would prabably be within safe limits for most vehicles.

The other thing to keep in mind is centre of gravity. Your vehicle will have much higher c.o.g and probably more body roll. A to high vehicle might become unstable, so there is a safety aspect to consider aswell.

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Old 11-04-10, 06:01 PM
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We had our first 4x4 trail today ( Damon 4x4 ) after my Jimny" 2inch kid lift + 30mm Wider Wheel spacers.

If you go up - You should go wider !!

Wonderlik - fantasties

Doen dit. Ek kan dit regtig aanbeveel.

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Old 11-04-10, 06:46 PM
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This is very good news. I want to do a 3" Calmini lift on my SWB Vitara and I have been worried about the effect on the drivetrain components with this kind of lift...or is the situation different with independent front suspension when you lift the vehicle over 50mm ?
YES, it is different with independent suspension.

Your wheels have a limited movement, by lifting the suspension you limit the "down ward travel" of the front wheels.

You can do some lift, byt extreme lifts will seriously mess about the suspension travel required for undulating terrain.
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Old 11-04-10, 07:22 PM
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Jou jimny lyk mooi Arno!

Wou jou nog gevra het vandag, maar het vergeet. Het jy castor correction bushes ingesit na die lig? Of is joune nog standaard? Hoe voel die stuur met 50mm lift sonder om die castor reg te maak? Moet mens defnitief die castor weer meer maak? Of kan mens wegkom daarsonder?

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Old 12-04-10, 09:51 PM
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Baie dankie.

Ek is baie trot op my jImny na al die gesukkel.

My Jimny is stabiel op die pad. Hy "drift" nie en soos jy weet ons het Sondag Worcester toe gery. Ek het amper 180Kilos op die N1 gery. Paul ( ORE ) het voor my gery, met sy nuwe Burnco bumper, en soms het ons "gemove". No problem. My jimny sit soos 'n neut aan 'n wol kombers op die pad. Op die draaie is hy stabiel. Band druk was 1.9 voor en 2.1 agter omdat ek langpad gery het.

Geen gestamp nie en die Jimny het geen probleem gehad met enige van die uitdagings wat aan ons gebied was nie. Ek het gehoor daar was ander ouens se karre wat onder bietjie gestamp en geskraap het. Ek het geen probleem gehad nie.

Johan, van 1st Alignment Centre reken ek sal nie die bande skade aandoen nie, maar die drifting verskil van kar tot kar. Hy het aanbeveel ek los die Jimny nou net so omdat Suzuki reeds die shims,bushes en kingpins vervang het behoort ek geen probleem verder te kry nie.

Ek sal dit dophou, maar waarom krap as dit nie jeuk nie.

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Advice please

I have OME shockers which lifts the body 3cm in the front and 4cm at the back
If I add 40mm spacers between the body and the chassis, what will I have to look out for?

40mm is 1.5", the guys at BigJimny.com consider 2" a minor lift and don't bother with anything below that.

Will I need any of the following after a 1.5" lift:
Castor correction bushes
Coil spring spacers
Shock spacers
Extended steering shaft
Extended foot pedals
Extended gear lever
Extended fuel filler pipe
and whatnot

or will it be a relatively painless, no-issues lift?

Why do I ask? I might consider 235/75/15 Mud Terrains in the future so I need to open up some space for them. The wisdom of doing this is a matter for another discussion

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Arno

ek sal dit waardeer as ek eendag na jou kar kan kom kyk

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All this lifting, LS? Are you trying to turn your car into a jungle gym or treehouse for your daughter?

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All this lifting, LS? Are you trying to turn your car into a jungle gym or treehouse for your daughter?
honestly, I don't know what I'm doing

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Advice please

I have OME shockers which lifts the body 3cm in the front and 4cm at the back
If I add 40mm spacers between the body and the chassis, what will I have to look out for?

40mm is 1.5", the guys at BigJimny.com consider 2" a minor lift and don't bother with anything below that.

Will I need any of the following after a 1.5" lift:
Castor correction bushes
Coil spring spacers
Shock spacers
Extended steering shaft
Extended foot pedals
Extended gear lever
Extended fuel filler pipe
and whatnot

or will it be a relatively painless, no-issues lift?

Why do I ask? I might consider 235/75/15 Mud Terrains in the future so I need to open up some space for them. The wisdom of doing this is a matter for another discussion
It appears that you are confusing body-lift and spring lift.

If you add 40mm spacers to your existing lifted springs, then you will also need the following:
Castor correction bushes
Adjustable panhard rods
Shock spacers (or longer shocks, the OME ones may be long enough)
Extended brake lines

If you lift the body (by replacing the existing rubber mounts between chassis & body) you will need to do the following:
Bumpers won't fit properly again, boer maak 'n plan. (The Jimny bumper attaches to body and chassis)
Extended steering shaft
Extended fuel filler pipe
Extended gear lever (might not be necessary)
Extended brake lines

The only advantage a body-lift has over a spring lift is that it allows more space for bigger tyres without affecting the suspension geometry. Your chassis stays the same height from the ground.

The spring lift allows better articulation, as well as lifting the chassis, thereby increasing the approach, breakover and departure angles.

I have no experience with body-lifts, just what I have read.

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While on this topic, can someone please explain "castor" and "castor correction" to me?
And Panhard rods?

I'm seriously thinking of lifting the SJ I'm rebuilding, but obviously need some info on these items.

I'll appreciate.
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Caster explained here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D_vg...eature=related

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While on this topic, can someone please explain "castor" and "castor correction" to me?
And Panhard rods?

I'm seriously thinking of lifting the SJ I'm rebuilding, but obviously need some info on these items.

I'll appreciate.
Because the SJ uses leaf springs up front, unless you change the length of the shackles significantly, you won't need to worry about correcting castor.

Panhard rods are used with coil spings to keep the axle aligned under the vehicle. The SJ has leaf spings and therefore doesn't need or have them.

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