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Old 03-02-09, 07:25 PM
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Hi guys. Is there anyone out there that has changed the shocks on a Mahindra SUV 4x4 ? We are going Botswana in March-April and with the roofrack, rooftoptent etc , i dont want to test the current factory fitted shocks in those conditions. I do know that LA sport for one is not to keen to help and just say that there are no OME, Ironmans etc availible for Mahindra and the only ones that can be fitted according to Hi-Q is the Gabriel Safari shocks.
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Old 03-02-09, 07:47 PM
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Get some Camil's Navigator had some on his Mahindra
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The Gabriel Safari shocks are much better than the std shocks. The front Camil shocks will only work if you have a 4x4, rear Camils very nice for they are adjustable to set the correct ride height if loaded.
Have a look on their website & give Piet a call, very help full
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I took my Scorpio Pikup to the Camil guys. They told me that they can fit Camils to the front, but at the rear there is too little space for the coils that go around the shocks. It might be different for the SUV.

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Thanks you guys. I will look into the Camils and the Safari's. Will give you feedback on my choice and the performance.
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Adriaan,
Obviously the Safaris will be a lot cheaper than the Camils, a set of Safari will cost you around R1500 & the Camils R5000 for the set....

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Hi Guys

I drive a 4x2 Scorpio

I replaced my oem shocks with Monroe gas adjust in front and Monroe gas Magnums in the rear. I had to grind the rear mount points a few mm to get the beefy gas magnums in but it was worth the effort. I adjusted the front shock to the 3rd hardest setting. The vehicle now behaves predictably and bodyroll is alot less and more controlled.

The spares place did not have any shocks listed for the Mahindra but I did some research and eventualy found that Toyota Hilux (not lifted) uses almost the same length shocks.

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Was told today by Mahindra Silverton that there are no replacement shocks for my Scorpio 4x2 SUV and that I can only get them from Mahindra at R4000 incl fitment. I doubt it this is true as Supa Quick quoted me around R1000 fitment incl. Was thinking of getting those Safari's. Does anyone have the part numbers on Safari shocks?

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I just spoke to the manager of 4x4 Mega World in PE. They have done shocks on the Bolero and they have looked at the Scorpio and say it can be done.

He suggests you go to Megaworld Menlyn and speak to Louis there, who's also one of our commercial members.

It won't be listed in the catalogue, but they can take off your shocks front and back and look for shocks that has the same bolting configuration, of similar length and off a vehicle of similar weight.
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There is different part numbers available, I`m not sure if they are a 100% fit - maybe you need to do a small mod but I`ve got these:

Scorpio SUV 2WD front: Safari:G56185 Technomatic:G45466
Scorpio SUV 4WD front: Safari:G56173 Technomatic:G45871

Scorpio Rear: G56102

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Thanks guys.
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Just found out that Safari's are available with no modification needed. They sell at Midas for R1200 for all four. SupaQuick also fits the Safari's but I will have to wait until monday for new stock. At R1000 fitment included it is worth the wait.
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While on the subject of shocks:

I'm not sure if it is the shocks, but when my wheels are turned sharply and I take off or I go over a bump, I get a creaking sound from my front suspension. Could it be the shocks or the A-Arms or what?
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Mine does the same StefanDB when it is dirty.Try to wash away all the dirt with a pressure washer.
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While on the subject of shocks:

I'm not sure if it is the shocks, but when my wheels are turned sharply and I take off or I go over a bump, I get a creaking sound from my front suspension. Could it be the shocks or the A-Arms or what?
Check your anti-roll bar connecting arms

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More suppliers will start to make shocks for Mahindra products as the Scorpio has been set for launch in the USA, even the retail price has been declared in the media.

With more wheels on the road there will be more reason for suppliers to get into the parts business.
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Is the rear shocks for the pik up more or less the same? I need to replace my rear shocks. Will the safari shocks be fine for the 2WD?

Where can I get the best deal in Johannesburg? Hi-Q seems to be the cheapest.

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I think its only the front shocks thats diferent between the 2x4 and the 4x4. The rears will be the same on both the pickup and suv. It will be a lot cheaper to buy it from Midas and fit it yourself. What broke off, take a picture of the broken part, will be interisting to see what and where it broke.
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Hi Stefan

I fitted the following on my Scorpio 2.6 SUV 2X4. Very easy job and you can do it yourself. Bought my shocks from Autozone

Front: Monroe Gas Part GT2028
Rear: Gabriel Safari Part G56116

I fitted the shocks beginning of December, got an incredible deal, all 4 shocks for R1000.

The Monroes and Gabriels are much more beefier than the original shocks. I phoned around a bit and many places suggested to steer clear from Gabriels for the front, as the Mahindra is a very heavy vehicle, the Gabriels won't last long. As you might have seen, those front shocks are very small...

I am very happy with the shocks fitted, drove a couple of bad gravel roads and the handling is great!
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Mario and everybody
You also get dobinson that fit suv's and monroes work to for more than half the price than what us stealers will charge , only prblem is if the vehicle is still under warranty get permission or the workshop to put the after market shock in for you.
i now most of youre vehicles do not have warranty any more so you do not have the problem.

Mario who did you speak to about the shocks i would like to nock his head in for not listening to the customer and trying to sort the problem out for you in a dignified and reasonable way.


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Front: Monroe Gas Part GT2028
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Will it be the same for the Pik Up as well?
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Nee die shocks op die pick up is anders as die suv's.
Die gabriel shock is die beste waarde vir geld en die maklikste om in die hande te kry.

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Holly crap, what did you do to break it like that? Interising to see that the rear shock on the pickup mounts at the wheel, the SUV's shock mounts on the tube for the drive shaft. So the pickup's shock should be longer than the suv's.
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To tell you the truth, I have no idea. It's only a 2WD so I do no real ruff terrain. Cant think of a pot hole I hit recently that could have caused that damage. This couldn't be wear and tear to could it?
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Is that the std shocks? What is the km reading on your vehicle?

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Yes, the std Scorpio shocks. The km reading is 91000 km.
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had the gabriel G56116 shocks fitted to the rear of my Scorpio SUV....what a difference...no more rock and roll.....
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Yes! They are great! Did about 8000km on my Gabriel Safari's on some bad roads! Definitely no more rock & roll!! Much bigger and beefier than the originals.
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Out of the blue, my Scorpio SUV feels very unstable while cornering... especially if i accelerate or decelerate...it feels very scary even at low speeds, like something has come loose....got underneath and checked for anything that is loose....all seems ok...i will take it in for the dealers to look at as it is due for 70,000km service....

Only way i can describe it is It feels like the back end is sliding or giving all of sudden...but it isn't....very strange...could it be something to do with the diff?...the new shocks have stopped the "rock 'n roll" problem i had before....
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What kind of shocks did you fit Dallas?
Mine did the same after 5000km on Gabriels. Replaced Gabriels again and same problem after 3000km. Replaced with Monroes (standard shock for Mahindra) no problems to date.
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Hi Mario....

the shocks are Gabriel Safari G56116...i had them fitted because my SUV was rocking badly....the rocking stopped and the vehicle was stable....shocks have only done a few hundred kms....

now the vehicle is pulling from side to side while cornering....but only if i accelerate or decelerate....if i freewheel around a corner / bend or hold a constant speed...it is ok....as soon as i accelerate or decelerate it moves quickly from side to side....

if i had to take a guess, i would say the diff is kicking in and out.....does this make sense?

hopefully the dealers in Roodepoort will be able to sort it out without costing me an arm and a leg.....
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Unless you have a lunchbox locker (automatic locker) installed in the diff, it could not be the diff. I would suggest you have all the bushess and rubber parts holding the rearend to the chassis checked by a suspension specialist. It sounds like a worn part that could move under torque and couse the wheels to go out of allignment. What model Scorpio do you have, the one with the leaf spring rear end or the new milti link coil spring setup. If its the multi link one, the bushes in the connecting arms could be shot. You might not see it if you try to move it but under torque it can move a lot if the rubber bushes went soft.

Edit: You have the Multilink coilspring rearend 2007 model (Checked your avatar). I've heard that those bushes wear out quite soon. You can have them rebuilt by a good suspension shop or get new bushes from the stealers, not to an expensive fix. Should be about R200 per bush depending on were you take it.

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Hi Scorpio Turbo...

i have a 2006/7 2.6 GLX SUV.....7 seater...

the problem i am having just came out of the blue and all of a sudden...it didn't appear gradually if you know what i'm trying to say...i looked at all the bushes etc, and they "seem to be ok".....i was taking an offramp off the freeway and i ed myself...initially i thought it was a flat tyre....but pressures are all fine...felt the wheels, no loose play there or on the steering....so i am stumped...will the dealers be able to diagnose this type of fault or will i have to get it to a suspension specialist?....

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Suspension shops usualy have a ramp with hydrolic plates that can "push" the wheels around to check for movement on the suspension parts. I don't think the stealers will have such equipment. Usualy worn suspencion parts dont show up gradualy. It stays within spec untill one day, then you sudenly feel it.
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thanx ST...

will get it to the suspension guys after it is serviced tomorrow....any suggestions who i can take it to?....
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Unfortunataly I dont know of anyone close to you, Suspension parts in Pretoria is the only place I know of.
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I just spoke to Dallas, he has been told that the control arm bushes needs to be replaced. What should the damage (financial) be on something like this?
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Depends on if the dealers do it or a independant suspesion shop. Shouldn't be more than R250-R300 per bush. +1hour labour. I know Suspension parts in Pretoria will take the old bushes out and cast new rubber bushes with the old metal sleeves into the original control arm rings. Very cheap and as good as new. They refurbished my Scorp's worn front lower ball joint for R120.

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ST....

thanx for all the help and info...much appreciated....

was quoted R1600 ex VAT...to fit the lower control arm bushes...is this a fair price?...

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thanx for all the help and info...much appreciated....

was quoted R1600 ex VAT...to fit the lower control arm bushes...is this a fair price?...

cheers
I would suspect those bushes goes for around R300 each (wild gues) 4x 300=1200 + 1hr labour =R1600. Sounds fair from the dealers. You might get it done cheaper from Suspension parts in Pta, if you remove the arms and refit them yourself. You might save +-R600 this way.

Just phoned Suspension parts, R395 per bush depending on the size. R1600 sounds very good.

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thanx ST....yeah...looking and calling around....R1600 does seem fair.....
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I have the same problem (second set Monroe, 200000km).
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Hi Guys

I bought a 2011 Scorpio 2.5 4x4 suv. Very happy so far.
This is my first Scorpio. I have been following the forum for a while and read the comments about the shocks. I am considering replacing the shocks.
The vehicle will probably not do too much serious off roading. But we will be going to Mozambique at least twice a year, where the roads are bad.
I think I'll replace the rear shocks with Safari's, but what do you guys recommend for the front? Also Safari's?
Will this be an issue when it comes to the warrantee?
I am in Pretoria. Can someone recommend a fitment centre?
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Do it yourself, very easy to do. Buy your shocks from Autozone in gezina. They usually have the best prices. Should be around R1500 for all 4 depending on what brand you get.

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Do it yourself, very easy to do. Buy your shocks from Autozone in gezina. They usually have the best prices. Should be around R1500 for all 4 depending on what brand you get.
Was actually there yesterday myself to get shocks. Got set of 4 Monroe shocks for just over R1300. Fitted the back set tonight, and found bushes for the lower bolt(s) were not provided. Trying to get the bushes out of the old shocks (OEM Monroe's) turned out to be a pain, because they are glued in to the rubber bushes. Will call Autozone tomorrow to find out if they can supply the correct bushes. The car feels much more stable, and can definitely feel now that the front needs to be done too! Any idea how to do the front? It is a coil over design, so more tricky than the back (which are very easy to change in place). Was planning to take the car to Super Quick to fit the front shocks for me...
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Oh, PS: I just bought my Scorpio yesterday.

Thank you to all those who have posted on this forum, reading the many reviews and advice helped me make my choice to go with the Scorpio.

Just a 2x4, 2.6, 2006 model, with 116700km on the clock, full service history with Mahindra, etc. Very happy with the condition, and impressed with the ride, torque, etc so far.

PS: Any idea where I can get the front lower ball joint rubber-boot / cover from? Mahindra only sells the whole ball joint with rubber boot (for R340 or so). My ball joints are fine (checked by Super Quick today), but the boot is torn (age), and I would like to replace it (both sides). tks
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Was actually there yesterday myself to get shocks. Got set of 4 Monroe shocks for just over R1300. Fitted the back set tonight, and found bushes for the lower bolt(s) were not provided. Trying to get the bushes out of the old shocks (OEM Monroe's) turned out to be a pain, because they are glued in to the rubber bushes. Will call Autozone tomorrow to find out if they can supply the correct bushes. The car feels much more stable, and can definitely feel now that the front needs to be done too! Any idea how to do the front? It is a coil over design, so more tricky than the back (which are very easy to change in place). Was planning to take the car to Super Quick to fit the front shocks for me...
Update: Called Monroe today to ask about the missing "metal sleeve on the lower bush", and they say that is how it comes. I find this very strange. Where is one supposed to find a replacement sleeve?

I cut up the old bushes (from the standard / old Monroe shock) to get the metal sleeve out, but it is too small. It fits, but there is play on the sleeve / bush when the car is bounced.

Monroe guy is going to make a few calls and get back to me...

PS: The rear shocks supplied are dark green / khaki colour, with a sticker on "Scorpio SC/DC". No other branding to say if these are Monroe Gas Magnums, or just standard Monroe shocks. Depending how I word the question to the Monroe guy, I am told they are both! haha!

One thing that does add up, both the Autozone guy and the Monroe guy tell me these are gas shocks, and they are the only available shock for this vehicle.

Also, Monroe guy tells me these shocks come from India, and are not manufactured here in SA (PE). Interesting...
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The front is easy, loosen the nut holding the top of the shock to the car, then loosen the 2 small bolts holding the bottom of the shock to the wishbone. Old shock falls out, compress new shock to get it in through the hole and refit the 3 fasteners. Your done.

Btw, my Monroe's also didn't have the bushes, I used the old ones with some Pratley steel to keep them tight.

When I did my shocks they didn't have them specifically for Mahindra, I had to research the web to find shocks that would fit. I think I had to get a certain model hilux's shocks. Gave me the option to buy the Gas Adjusts for the front and the very beefy Gas Magnums for the back. Front fitted 100% and the back I had to modify the brackets on the vehicle a small bit to fit that FAT shock.

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The front is easy, loosen the nut holding the top of the shock to the car, then loosen the 2 small bolts holding the bottom of the shock to the wishbone. Old shock falls out, compress new shock to get it in through the hole and refit the 3 fasteners. Your done.

Btw, my Monroe's also didn't have the bushes, I used the old ones with some Pratley steel to keep them tight.

When I did my shocks they didn't have them specifically for Mahindra, I had to research the web to find shocks that would fit. I think I had to get a certain model hilux's shocks. Gave me the option to buy the Gas Adjusts for the front and the very beefy Gas Magnums for the back. Front fitted 100% and the back I had to modify the brackets on the vehicle a small bit to fit that FAT shock.
UPDATE: Thanks Scorpio Turbo! I have now removed the front shocks, and they feel and look fine, so put them back!

Also changed the rubber boot / dustcover on the lower ball joint (driver side).


After fitting the Munroe rear shocks supplied by Autozone Gezina, the ride improved a lot! Old shocks were very bad, and once out the car it was clear just how bad they were!

But I was still in 2 minds / not happy. Called Munore to ask about the "missing" steel bush, and they told me that is how it comes. Also told me they do not make these shocks in SA, but import them from India. They are beefier than the Munroes that were in (bigger munroes must be better, right?). Monroe headoffice also told me these shocks are defiantly gas, but after close inspection with Autozone, and a friend who is a mechanical, all agree these are definitely not gas. Grr!!

Does it really matter in the end? Gas vs non-gas shocks?

I decided to read this forum thread again, and decided to ask for the Gabriel Safari's (Rear: Gabriel Safari Part G56116) mentioned above by Duka. Autozone had stock, and the price is almost exactly the same as the Munores I had already bought and fitted.

Decided to buy the Gabriel Safari's (actually a Toyota part, but fits fine). Fitted them yesterday.

The Gabriel Safari's also do not come out with the steel bushes, so I cut the steel bushes out of the old worn out Munroe shocks, and bought Polyurethane bushes (yellow). Fits very tightly, and the bushes only cost R7 each at Midas (need 8 of them for the 2 back shocks).

Quite a run around, but I am pretty sure in the end I got a great product and excellent fit / mounting.

Having driven worn shocks, Munroe (beefy type), and the Gabriel Safari's all on the same vehicle within a few days of each other, I can report:
  • worn back shocks drive poorly, back of the car bounces around, etc (as expected).
  • new Munroe shocks (beefy ones) are much better, drive in firm, and no more bouncing!
  • Gabriel Safari's are almost identical in ride to the Munroe's. I can not report any noticeable difference. (but the gas should maintain performance on dirt roads)
Thanks to everyone on the forum! Without the info here I would not have got what I wanted (Toyota shocks fitting on Scorpio, and part number was extremely useful, tks!).


PS: I have the older, leaf spring model, and can report the shocks fitted easily, without any mods (except for Polyurethane bushes).
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