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Old 19-11-12, 11:34 PM
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Anyone have news, pictures or dates of the next generation Hilux. Any ideas on motors and gearboxes?

From my understanding the Tundra is only made in Left hand drive, is this true or do they make them in right hand drive as well? What's the chances of it coming to SA in V8 diesel

Speaking of V8 diesel, what's the latest on the Cuiser pick up V8 Diesel?

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Nothing new for Hilux until 2015.

The new S line just came out in the Hilux. Electric folding mirrors, self levelling headlights. Changes so small, Toyota did not even promote it as a change.
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I also heard via the grapevine that there will not be a new model until 2016.
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Same for the Fortuner?

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I also heard via the grapevine that there will not be a new model until 2016.
I alo heard the same Dirk.
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Other than the grapevine, haven't heard anything solid either, so we're probably at least 2 years away from a new version.

AFAIK the Tundra is LHD only. Can't see them bringing it to SA, as it is more leisure orientated (read softer) than what we need here.

I think even Toyota themselves don't know what is happening with the V8 d4d bakkie! It may turn out to be a repeat of the 200 GX story. Watch me eat my words....

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Old 20-11-12, 05:37 PM
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Toyota keep these things so secret, just planning for the future I like to replace my Hilux's every 50000km or 3 years, it's currently a year old with 20000km.

I'm really hoping the next one will have all the bells and whistles to compete with these other brands, sorry been a Toyota fan since my dad bought the 1st 2.4D back when I was like 5. I answered a emailed questionnaire after I bought my last Hilux and the one question was if I would prefer a 2.8' 3.0 or 3.2 litre. So lets hope they come out with a 3.2L, 5 or 6 speed auto, in 6 cylinder form Diesel.

What's the story of the 200 GX?

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I personally think Toyota is in a spot of bother. If they do go bigger on the hilux / fortuner? What are they going to do about the recently released Prado? The motor needs to be decent to compete with the competition. Yet they don't want to kill the prado market with their own vehicles.


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There is an article on the forum, but I'll summarize.

Toyota were on the brink of launching the Landcruiser 200 GX here and even got as far as having them waiting inside Durban port for delivery to dealerships when the whole thing got cancelled due to the tow rating on the vehicle. I remember one guy had even sold his VX in anticipation of this.

In the end, I think they all got shipped off to Botswana.

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Toyota keep these things so secret...
In 1999 I enquired about the rumour of a new vehicle, but the dealers knew nothing. I had my Condor already ordered when the dealers still could not give me any information. Even after I gave them the key specifications, they still did not reveal any knowledge about the vehicle. Maybe they would be good at Poker as well.

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Chatting to the Parts Manager at the local dealership, he mentioned that there will only be a new model arriving during 2015.


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My info from head office is 2016 and smaller but stronger engines to keep emissions down. He mentioned in the 2.8 region. But I don't even think they realy know what will happen.
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Sitting on my hands for this , but there will be quite few changes.
Basic design (Size, engines, T/M ,etc are already decided)

I just returned fro a business trip to Thailand & must say the new Isuzu looks mighty impressive.

Also interesting was top of the range Hilux/Vigo 3.0 D4D Double Cab with 5 A/T 4x4 sells for 992,000 Thai Baht , which is about R289,000. I'm not sure about the taxes , but it's a higher spec & cheaper than SA hilux (RRSP = R444,300)

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We supply the manufacturers. They start gearing up during next year so as to be able to run preproduction middle of 2014. I expect you'll see the car 2015. Apparently Toyota have the longest preproduction cycle.

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Old 26-11-12, 10:45 AM
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Read in the Drive-out about the v8 diesel in the 76 cruiser station wagon early 2013? Any news on that?

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Old 26-11-12, 11:36 AM
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Apparently Toyota have the longest preproduction cycle.
Why? That cheap tupper and tinware which just clips together should take only a few seconds to assemble.
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Can't help with Cruiser it's not made here.

They take the time to make sure that all that tupperware and tinware clips together perfectly without modifications.

In the early days of the T6 the chassis were delivered with incorrectly placed cross members. They fixed these in the parking lot post production. Toyota generally has these bugs ironed out before production starts.

Basic rule in any case is never buy a car within 6 months of its model or facelift launch. That way you have better chance of dodging the bugs.

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From what I heard the design is finalised and some small scale planning is under way. It will be 2015 since they are busy developing the local version of the next generation corolla at the plant with a few built up units from Japan parked at the plant somewhere.
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Sitting on my hands for this , but there will be quite few changes.
Basic design (Size, engines, T/M ,etc are already decided)

I just returned fro a business trip to Thailand & must say the new Isuzu looks mighty impressive.

Also interesting was top of the range Hilux/Vigo 3.0 D4D Double Cab with 5 A/T 4x4 sells for 992,000 Thai Baht , which is about R289,000. I'm not sure about the taxes , but it's a higher spec & cheaper than SA hilux (RRSP = R444,300)

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This is how I understand it:

2013:
  • 70 Series upgrade
  • V8 motor in 70 series
  • 2.5VNT Manuel & 4spd Auto in Hilux (106kW)
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  • Prado face-lift
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  • Maybe a final Hilux/Fortner facelift.
  • Maybe all new Corolla
  • Maybe some all new models (new categories)
2015:
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  • New Fortuner
  • Hopefully all new Prado

This new guy, Toyoda, grandson of founder & father of the 86, he seems
to be less of a volumn pusher than his predecessors & more of a 'car-guy'...

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My only fear is that if there are any more strikes the Hilux wont be made here. They were going to push the volumes to almost double the current throughput until a strike put paid to the increase.

It costs Toyota less per unit to make a car in Turkey than here. There workers are more productive and less greedy.

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.This new guy, Toyoda, grandson of founder & father of the 86, he seems to be less of a volumn pusher than his predecessors & more of a 'car-guy'...
True - he was literally in tears when he apologized to the Americans for their bad business conduct. I trully hope that he will be able to bring us "real Toyotas" again - as we knew it in the 70's, 80's and early 90's!

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SOME STORIES: New motor will be 2.8 (I actually thought the Trailblazer motor was an Isuzu and would play a big part in the makeup of the Toyota motor - but its an Iti motor)
Prado will get a V6(possibly with Isuzu help)....that could in years to come be the flagship motor in the Hilux/Fortuner?? (I am a bit sceptical though)
The Tacoma rumours are not entirely untrue.........it is not coming here but the Hilux and Tacoma will very possibly share a platform....there is also a rumour that the Hilux may be sold in the US?? There is talk of the Hilux and Tacoma being the same thing just named differently??
There was talk of 2016 but more likely 2015 or even late 2014??

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It's going to be 2 very long long years for Toyota if this is the case

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It's going to be 2 very long long years of still being the top seller each month for Toyota if this is the case
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Ek gaan my nie laat vertel dat die Tsunami hul designs weggespoel het nie. So ek moet tot die gevolgtrekking kom dat hulle uit die staanspoor uit gerat was om eers die volgende shape dan in 2015 te maak en 2 facelifts in die mark te stoot intussen.

Dis seker nou maar die prys wat jy betaal vir "betroubaarheid"

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Ek stem dat hulle 'n strategiese "wind gesluk" het as hulle eers die volgende model 2015 wil stoot.

Ek het altyd gedink 'n produk "leeftyd" is so 7 jaar. Die vorige model is (einde) 1998 op die mark gesit en 2005 het die Vigo gekom. Dit sou 2013 'n "goeie" tyd gemaak het om die nuwe model te stoot.

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Hoekom moet hulle 'n nuwe model in die mark stoot? Die huidige model is dan die top verkoper.
Solank die huidige model so goed verkoop is daar niks wat hulle druk om die nuwe model vinniger uit te kry nie.

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Hoekom moet hulle 'n nuwe model in die mark stoot? Die huidige model is dan die top verkoper.
Solank die huidige model so goed verkoop is daar niks wat hulle druk om die nuwe model vinniger uit te kry nie.
Mmmm...het jy gesien hoe haal die Ranger in?
Dit was dieselfde met die ou SFA Hilux hier in 1997/98 toe die Isuzu met die 280DT hulle verbygesteek het met verkope. As jy kyk op hierdie stadium na Ford/Isuzu is hulle lewenssiklusse korter as die van die Hilux.

Toegegee as die Hilux bly beste verkoop het hulle seker nie rede om te verbeter nie

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Ek stem dat hulle 'n strategiese "wind gesluk" het as hulle eers die volgende model 2015 wil stoot.

Ek het altyd gedink 'n produk "leeftyd" is so 7 jaar. Die vorige model is (einde) 1998 op die mark gesit en 2005 het die Vigo gekom. Dit sou 2013 'n "goeie" tyd gemaak het om die nuwe model te stoot.
Hoekom sou hulle dit wil doen? Die goed verkoop dan nog steeds soos soetkoek al is die tegnologie van 19voertsek. Dit beteken die leeftyd is nog lank nie verby nie. Hou dan op om die goed te koop. Dan is die leeftyd sommer gou verby. en dit sal hulle forseer om iets te doen.
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Mmmm...het jy gesien hoe haal die Ranger in?
Dit was dieselfde met die ou SFA Hilux hier in 1997/98 toe die Isuzu met die 280DT hulle verbygesteek het met verkope.
Niks sal my meer plesier gee as die geskiedenis homself weer wil herhaal nie !!!!

Want dit kan net beteken dat ons in die toekoms beter produkte gaan he om van die kies. Kompetisie was nog nooit sleg nie. As jy 'n weghol oorwinning behaal die heeltyd raak jy laks !

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Niks sal my meer plesier gee as die geskiedenis homself weer wil herhaal nie !!!!

Want dit kan net beteken dat ons in die toekoms beter produkte gaan he om van die kies. Kompetisie was nog nooit sleg nie. As jy 'n weghol oorwinning behaal die heeltyd raak jy laks !

Hehehe - die All Blacks sowel as Toyota moet nou lig loop!!

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Ek stem dat hulle 'n strategiese "wind gesluk" het as hulle eers die volgende model 2015 wil stoot.

Ek het altyd gedink 'n produk "leeftyd" is so 7 jaar. Die vorige model is (einde) 1998 op die mark gesit en 2005 het die Vigo gekom. Dit sou 2013 'n "goeie" tyd gemaak het om die nuwe model te stoot.
Agteros, daai is tipies Toyota management mentaliteit. Hulle sal vir ons 'n nuwe model gee wanneer hulle so dink, nie wanneer die mark vra vir 'n nuwe produk nie.
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Agteros, daai is tipies Toyota management mentaliteit. Hulle sal vir ons 'n nuwe model gee wanneer hulle so dink, nie wanneer die mark vra vir 'n nuwe produk nie.
Dis juis my punt. Die mark vra nie vir 'n nuwe produk nie, anders sou verkope lankal begin daal het. Solank as wat kopers tevrede is met die huidige produk en dit aanhou verkoop is daar mos geen druk om geld te spandeer aan nuwe ontwikkeking nie.
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It was scheduled for 2013. Toyota took a big knock in the global recession. I heard it had been pushed out to 2015 2 years ago. That was before the Tsunami. We were working up on the Ford project at the time.

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Hoekom sou hulle dit wil doen? Die goed verkoop dan nog steeds soos soetkoek al is die tegnologie van 19voertsek. Dit beteken die leeftyd is nog lank nie verby nie. Hou dan op om die goed te koop. Dan is die leeftyd sommer gou verby. en dit sal hulle forseer om iets te doen.
Sjoe, as jy die direkteur was van so n maatskappy het jy seker lankal "bang" gegaan. Jy wag mos nie tot jou oposisie jou ingehaal het voor jy besluit om stappe te vat nie. 2013 of 2014 is n goeie tyd om nuwe Hilux in mark te sit....Continious improvement laat jou verder die leier in enige motor vervaardiger mark sit, en vir julle ou toppies met besighede, geld vir julle ook...

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It was scheduled for 2013. Toyota took a big knock in the global recession. I heard it had been pushed out to 2015 2 years ago.

I guess they are floating the wave. For now, their sales figures (at least in the RSA market) don't warrant a model change yet.
If they were to bring out a new model now, they would only catch up to VW & Ford technology wise.
By delaying the new model until 2015 they give them self time to possibly develop the Hilux into something that could have the edge spec &technology wise over the by then aging T6 and Amarok.

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Hard to tell if the Landcruiser V8 pick-up will ever come to South Africa...I import them from Oz and sell them in Namibia...some facts :
1. Extremely popular Landcuiser 1HD FTE pick-up NEVER came to South Africa..!
2. OZ only have 1 model in Landcruiser,.that is 4500 V8 Diesel.. South Africa has the 1HZ diesel AND the 4000 V6 Petrol...why would they bring 3rd model..?
3.Rumours had it that the V8 was due middle of 2012 and retail to be around R500,000.....Price in OZ for the V8 almost R700,000....why would
they sell it here for R500,000...? Most cars are much cheaper in OZ than over here....
4. Rand is on the dive, who will buy a Landcruiser diesel pick-up for R700,000 +.... Namibians feel my price of R 629,000 for a 1 year old and less than 30,000km toooooo much....
5. Other rumours were that G/Box or diffs on V8 pick-up not adequate for RSA after tests....Bull S..T.. No better testing ground for any 4x4 than OZ
These models, on the roads in OZ since 2007...no need to be tested..all
service results of these units on Toyota Computers...
6. Re. Landcruiser 200's in Port of Durban,..maybe they were destined for Zim, Zambia or other....Botswana part of Common Custom Union with Namibia & RSA...Toyota South Africa is the Head Office & deciscion maker.
Cars would not be shipped to RSA unless it is to be destributed here..

Just my 2 cents...
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I have seen numerous examples of the Toyota Tundra & Sequioa. These make the big Land Cruisers look tiny. As for the Tundra, the DC version is huge and you can park a Mini on the loadbed. These Vehicles are LONG and difficult to maneuver in town. Both the Nissan Titan and Toyota Tundra come with 5.6 & 5.8L V8's. More show vehicles than serious off road machines. No chance of seeing them in SA as they were developed for the USA market.
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D1+D3=, the answer is 'Ad valorum duty'...


This is how I understand it:

2013:
  • 70 Series upgrade
  • V8 motor in 70 series
  • 2.5VNT Manuel & 4spd Auto in Hilux (106kW)
  • New RAV
  • Prado face-lift
  • Lot's of platkar stuff (Verso, Yaris etc)
2014:
  • Maybe new diesel motor in Prado
  • Maybe a final Hilux/Fortner facelift.
  • Maybe all new Corolla
  • Maybe some all new models (new categories)
2015:
  • New Hilx
  • New Fortuner
  • Hopefully all new Prado

This new guy, Toyoda, grandson of founder & father of the 86, he seems
to be less of a volumn pusher than his predecessors & more of a 'car-guy'...
Yes cost difference I could accept, but why not give RSA market the same auto box in the Hilux why still use the widely criticised 4sp auto?

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Hard to tell if the Landcruiser V8 pick-up will ever come to South Africa...I import them from Oz and sell them in Namibia...some facts :
1. Extremely popular Landcuiser 1HD FTE pick-up NEVER came to South Africa..!
2. OZ only have 1 model in Landcruiser,.that is 4500 V8 Diesel.. South Africa has the 1HZ diesel AND the 4000 V6 Petrol...why would they bring 3rd model..?
3.Rumours had it that the V8 was due middle of 2012 and retail to be around R500,000.....Price in OZ for the V8 almost R700,000....why would
they sell it here for R500,000...? Most cars are much cheaper in OZ than over here....
4. Rand is on the dive, who will buy a Landcruiser diesel pick-up for R700,000 +.... Namibians feel my price of R 629,000 for a 1 year old and less than 30,000km toooooo much....
5. Other rumours were that G/Box or diffs on V8 pick-up not adequate for RSA after tests....Bull S..T.. No better testing ground for any 4x4 than OZ
These models, on the roads in OZ since 2007...no need to be tested..all
service results of these units on Toyota Computers...
6. Re. Landcruiser 200's in Port of Durban,..maybe they were destined for Zim, Zambia or other....Botswana part of Common Custom Union with Namibia & RSA...Toyota South Africa is the Head Office & deciscion maker.
Cars would not be shipped to RSA unless it is to be destributed here..

Just my 2 cents...
Johan
Johan
Your point 5: Aus has better fuel than Southern Africa and also no altitude. So a car working well in Aus will not necessarily perform so well and warranty free in all places in our market.
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