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Old 13-11-12, 03:14 PM
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Question Pathfinder vs Discovery 3 (Advice please!)


Hey guys, been a lurker on the forum for a while, thought I would ask some advice here.

Looking at buying first 4x4 SUV, and narrowed it down to 2 choices after a pretty long search.

They are:
2006 Landrover Discovery 3 TDV6 SE 2.7
127 000 km
R 239 900

2007 Nissan Pathfinder 2.5 dCi LE
132 000 km
R 229 900

Both good condition, with good service records. Luxury feels better on the Discovery, and offroad ability I think is better also. Nissan service costs obviously a big advantage though...

I'm sure there's been tons of these types of conversations, but what's one more!
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Out of the two I'd take the Pathfinder without hesitation!!

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Out of the two I'd take the Discovery without hesitation!!

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Discovery. Land Rover parts are cheap compared to some other manufacturers.

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There is no choice here

The D3 !!

Ok - I like the Pathfinder BUT offroad the D3 is in total diff class...

Just drive both (as you did) and then decide

The service costs of D3 is really not worse than other "older" SUV infact as a result of the (still valid ?) bad service from the stealers the very good Indies are on top of any D3 problem.

The TDV6 is fantastic - yes make sure services were done and also keep it up... as with all turbo diesels drive them like a diesel
O and remove the CAT ASAP do EGR block... make sure the gearbox was flushed !
Don't know what should be done on Pathy - but am sure there are also items to check

Did I say buy the D3 ?? well if not BUY THE D3

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I've had the chance to drive in two different Pathfinders (I can't see how they price them like they do) recently.

I'd rather stick to my not value for money fortuner then thank you very much.

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D3 without a doubt. Brilliant on road, brilliant offroad, just...well BRILLIANT !

Disclaimer: This is unashamedly biased advice from a D3 owner !

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I'd rather stick to my not value for money fortuner then thank you very much.
Jaco, appliances are not in this equation.

I also can't see how they price the Pathfinder.

Get the Disco 3. As the guys said, offroad is better, and if you service it at an indy, the service costs are also affordable.

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I will also go with the Discovery although I think you should get a 2006 model with that km at a better price

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cant compare the 2 really
disco in a higher class

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Jaco, appliances are not in this equation.
Ask Manny how I feel about appliances. Now I'd rather take appliances than the one mentioned option.

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Exactly. The pathfinder should not be priced amongst the competition it is between.

I would love to have a big enough purse for a Discovery. But then some folks here recon you don't need a fat purse.







Maybe just a willing credit card ?

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I've had the chance to drive in two different Pathfinders (I can't see how they price them like they do) recently.

I'd rather stick to my not value for money fortuner then thank you very much.
I've only had the displeasure of driving one Fortuner. After 20km, and the option of having it as a daily, I asked to rather have the Isuzu Frontier. You keep your POS.

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Not quite. The Pathfinder is actually put in the same "class" as the Disco due to the spec level, drivetrain configuration etc. What is standard on the Disco and Pathfinder can not even be had on a Fortuner as optional extras. It is definitely not priced and classed in the same league as the Fortuner, Everest etc as it is not a SUV body on top of a bakkie chassis. In reality it should have been priced in line with the Fortuner to gain a market share. That I think is a big mistake made by Nissan.

Owning a Pathfinder and having been in the company of many Discos, I would most definitely suggest the Disco. It's offroad ability is just that little bit better than the Pathfinder. Not a lot, but significant enough. Drive both up on ramps and see which has the best articulation in standard form. It makes a difference when the terrain gets really rough. Trust me there is nothing wrong with the Pathfinder. I love mine to bits. When I'm in the market again, which one will I buy? The Disco of course.

My unbiased opinion and sorry for the snide remark Jaco. The more you tell yourself the crap you believe, the more sense it will make.

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I'm confused? Always thought of the Pathfinder in the Fortuner / Pajero Sport category. The Disco would be more Prado/Pajero class.

Pathfinders and Navara (new) is really overpriced in my opinion. All said, without having driven either just on face value I would prefer the D3 (again only my opinion)
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Both great vehicles but the nissan does not stand a chance against the discovery off road. On road the discovery will also out perform the nissan. I'd take the discovery but be prepared to have some niggles. The nissan parts are expensive but I don't think the nissan gives issues. My 2cw..
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my pathy my nog nie 'n dag se probleme gegee nie, ry swak grondpad, elke dag. Het wel al gehoor van die betroubaarheid van die disco 3 wat nie baie goed is nie, het albei al redelik gery, as ek weer kies, weer die pathy

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As ek die Disco se masjien en ratkas(Auto)in die Pathy kon kry sou ek hom oorweeg het. Ek sal nooit 'n handrat Pathy oorweeg nie.

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My unbiased opinion and sorry for the snide remark Jaco. The more you tell yourself the crap you believe, the more sense it will make.
No problem. If you read any of my posts you will see how I feel about what Toyota offer clients. Coming from VW and Audi I had a hard time adjusting, but it was a longterm decision I had to take financially. So I'm the first to get what you saying.

But there is now way in hell I will pay that money for a squeeky Nissan thanks very much. LOTS of other stuff in that market I'd rather buy. In fact, I'd rather buy all the others, Prado, Pajero, Touareg, Jeep, Disco.

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I'm confused? Always thought of the Pathfinder in the Fortuner / Pajero Sport category. The Disco would be more Prado/Pajero class.
You are rightly confused. CAR magazine explained it quite well when readers asked why the Pathfinder was not included in a shootout with the Fortuner etc. Main reason was that it was not just a SUV body on top of the bakkie chassis. Secondly was the IRA as opposed to the live axle on the Fortuner. There was also the spec level of the vehicle itself and a host of other reasons including that it was priced alongside the Disco and not Fortuner.

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As ek die Disco se masjien en ratkas(Auto)in die Pathy kon kry sou ek hom oorweeg het. Ek sal nooit 'n handrat Pathy oorweeg nie.
Wel kop dan die Auto soos ek het. Jy weet hulle kom in outo ook, alhoewel die 3.0 V6 diesel net in auto kom nou.

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There was also the spec level of the vehicle itself
As said I'm not a Toy sheep at all, but this is the one thing I don't get about the Pathfinder, guess I will have to go do homework. But I simply do not see the extra R200,000's features.

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As said I'm not a Toy sheep at all, but this is the one thing I don't get about the Pathfinder, guess I will have to go do homework. But I simply do not see the extra R200,000's features.
I don't either, but you can not beat them for value second hand. Do a price comparison and see for yourself.

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Hi Radient
I am on my second D3. had an 05 that I traded in on a 09.
I love my Disco.
My advise is get a D3 from a dealer as you are covered for 6 months under the new consumer protection act and before you sign the forms take it to one of the Indies recomended on the forum.

Spend the money and get them to look it over properly.

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The D3 without a doubt. Get the Landy checked by a reputable indie before you buy.

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For that money, and i know it's not mentioned, i will buy a PRADO 4L v6...for R200k ,and use the rest of the money for the fuel bill! I have heard from previous Disco owners (OK only 3) that you cannot afford a Disco outside of it's motorplan!

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Read the forum and decide...

You may have to accept the possibility of quite a few serious failures on a D3 such as crank that can break or overheating due to thermostat housing failure or electronics issues that you will not read about on the Nissan section

D3 very nice, but insure yourself with extended warranty, my humble opinion, others may strongly disagree

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For that money, and i know it's not mentioned, i will buy a PRADO 4L v6...for R200k ,and use the rest of the money for the fuel bill! I have heard from previous Disco owners (OK only 3) that you cannot afford a Disco outside of it's motorplan!
You cannot afford it if you let Land Rover service it, yes. But WHY would you want to take it to Land Rover for a service if you are out of warrenty and motorplan?
Take it to an indie. They know what they are doing.

That goes for any vehicle make. The last time I took swambo's XTrail to the nissan dealers for a serive a few years ago that service was almost R6 500!! And they only replaced 2 brake pads and akimmed the feont discs. Now only indies works on it, and I am very happy!

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I have to make the exact same choice I never considered the Pathfinder BUT then this came alone 2007 2.5 auto 4x4 72 000km R145 000, the two discos are 2008 tdv6 S 190 000km, 2007 tdv6 HSE 197000km both R200, driving them all this weekend and the decide
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I think I can comment the most objectively here!

You just can NOT compare a Disco 3 SE vs a Pathfinder STOCK - The Pathfinder will cream the Disco. Yes the Disco has the status and most people who have thus far commented don't own both like I do.

Simple answer and this includes offroad ability if you can take an Auto Pathfinder then there's NO need for a D3 SE, ONLY the HSE competes.

You want comparisons? Theres 2 pros the Disco SE has is air suspension which can be a real frustration at times and a boon and real 7 adult seating BUT BUT BUT you can not hope to keep them all cool. The Pathfinder however has dual condensors and ICEY cold aircon which means in the middle of the kalahari it's silent whilst the disco sounds like a boeing.

Offroad much of a muchness. D3 has RDL which works OKISH. The guys here who reckon no comparison vs the two are merely defending their ignorance. The two have a lot more in common, infact I can't think of two vehicles with more alike, but then again I said STOCK Pathy VS HSE not SE. If it's not HSE get the Pathfinder.

As for the costs of ownership - hogwash, the Pathfinder is WAY WAY WAY WAY cheaper to own. I've known both these vehicles since new so I have hard facts. The status guys will tell you get a warranty...

As for Prado, don't bother doesn't compete 12 year practicality ditto for Tuna. In terms of the most practical SUV for overlanding / school run money can buy you'd be hard pressed to beat the D3 HSE or Pathfinder. The runner up would be Pajero.
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From a status perspective yes, but not otherwise. Your comment is a common misconception propagated by replies this this.

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Common features
- ISOFIX great for someone your age wanting to start a family
- 7 seaters
- Sunroof
- Electric chairs WITH memory
- Cruise Control, D3 can hunt and get you fines, Pathy less agressive but more inline with the concept ie HOLD 120.
- Similar fuel consumption
- Reverse Mirror dipping, D3's implementation is bound to give grey hairs as you have to goto the menu click 6 times etc to enable / disable each time. Pathfinder has a dedicated button.
- 3rd row chairs fold into floor not like Old fashioned competitors.
- Loads of 12V sockets but here PAthy has more and even one dedicated which bypasses ignition.
- Windows which wind all the way down
- Follow me home lights, Pathy implementation WAY better you flick your brights once to enable so not a norm.
- Climate control, D3 version like a BMW, hopeless. Nissan have this one under wraps. When cold blows on feet NOT face. Auto demists etc.
- Both same size tanks
- Both have split boot design but sometimes D3's is better other times when you need to get something in the back boot Pathy is better.
- Both good offroad, D3 more dummy proof.
- Loads of airbags
- Neither is a slouch
- Adjustable headlights
- Both tell you when you have a trailer attached and if the trailers indicators stop working.
- Great tow ratings, unlike competitors mentioned in this thread

Pathfinder
- Auto feels sluggish but isn't, manual like a train
- Physically stronger check thickness of suspension, arms, side shafts etc
- Cam chain, D3 belt and a very expensive service
- Most expensive service 5k
- Air con for 2nd and 3rd row in the roof. Plus driver can choose temps or let passengers choose
- Never EVER mists up
- Climate control is a fire and forget, D3 you have to fiddle
- Proper sunroof, D3 cooks you alive with a silly mesh
- Seat heaters, great for winter when you don't want to get sick with AC
- Better stock tint windows, we did a test yesterday both parked in sun for 30 mins, Pathy was 11C cooler.
- Handles like a X5.
- Poop battery
- More comfortable legroom for front - laterally.
- Can fit bigger wheels without chaffing and under spare. With D3 you must deflate your spare
- Strong ladder frame chassis, easier to jack.
- Better recovery points, you don't have to remove the covers every time
- Slightly longer service intervals
- Nice solid indicator stalks, D3 feel's cheap like a Toys.
- Better sound system, although D3 has a sub it doesn't have the bass, the Pathy has 4 x 6x9's in the door plus tweeters.
- Easy to upgrade for built in navigation


D3
- Built in navigation, rather useless though and good luck upgrading
- Nice smoother engine six pot vs 4.
- Average service over R5k
- Very nice autobox
- Big space for 3rd row passengers BUT at the expense of boot space, Pathy is opposite OK for adults but larger boot - I prefer D3 here.
- Not nearly as reliable, every time we do a trail bare in mind my FIL also has a D3 HSE something goes wrong. On recent one he had a "gearbox fault", his front CV popped...according to video footage I don't know how as the car was driven VERY slowly. The pathy like a camel trophy.
- Better stock head lights, best out of any I've seen
- Handles like a boat and feels heavy
- Wider interior
- Front passenger + driver footwell poorly designed and crampy compared.
- Auto locking doors
- Auto wipers (depending on spec Pathy also has)
- Auto headlights (depending on spec Pathy also has)
- Poorly designed engine cover, comes off after a couple of water crossings (yes manual warns you but still)
- Nice beefy battery

My pathy has had a way more rough life yet has never broken anything mechanical or left me stranded.
Repairs under warranty
- Transfer case solenoid (couldn't select low range)
- Faulty flywheel changed just after first service / PDI

The Discos, compressors, air bag leak, rear side shaft, front cv, faulty handbrake which caused warped discs and recently ball joint plus a couple of false alarms re gearbox etc. some repairs common on both Disco's.

You'd be happy with either but sorry a SE, S just can not compete with a Pathfinder. If you can afford a D3 it's a great car but it is most definitely more expensive to maintain by a large margin. Over the last 4 years I'd estimate around 20-30% of the Total D3 costs.

My BIL hates the idea I trash the D3, but I'm not trashing it, I'm comparing - objectively.

I love both but the Pathfinder is seriously under rated. If I had the auto I wouldn't have the D3.

Resale / trade on Pathy is better than D3. Fact.

Your heart will say D3, your head Pathfinder.

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Thanks for all the comments and advice guys, some very comprehensive comparisons here.

Dieselfan nailed it on the head here, stating that my head says Pathy, and my heart Disco.

I have after some more searching found a similiar model D3, also 2006 SE. but with 160k on the clock, available from a reputable indie as private sale, with all the cambelt, suspension compressor and control bushes just replaced and / or serviced, but for R200k...seems like that would be our current #1 choice.

Mechanically it seems the SE and HSE are the same...am I wrong? or is there a reason you say the HSE only compares with the Pathy?

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The biggest differences are the HSE has a higher trim spec ,but mechanically the same. Also a lot of the "extra" features can be enabled by someone like Baben with a faultmate

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I am going with the Pathy then Looked at the Disco's sorry to say but I don't get it ! Nothing special felt very cheap, this comming from a Hyundai driver !
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Vir my altyd snaaks, 90% van die mense wat die pathy so afskiet, het nog nooit eens in hom gery nie. Ek het al in vele fortuners, discos en prado gery, ek bly by my keuse as ek weer koop.

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For that money, and i know it's not mentioned, i will buy a PRADO 4L v6...for R200k ,and use the rest of the money for the fuel bill! I have heard from previous Disco owners (OK only 3) that you cannot afford a Disco outside of it's motorplan!
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I have no idea what you just said. Mixit speak is clearer than you post.

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Personly I think Disco 3 is overrater I expected allot more, can't see how poeple say it is better than the Pathfinder
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Personly I think Disco 3 is overrater I expected allot more
I just can't see that Lord Farquart is going to be more impressed with this mxit version.

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Personly I think Disco 3 is overrater I expected allot more, can't see how poeple say it is better than the Pathfinder
The disco has a mix of good and cheap trimming. The pathfinder older spec was on average better. The current spec is in another league better.

I was driving the pathy yesterday and had a look at the doors. Check the cut outs for your legs. In the disco I have the door handle jabbing my lower thigh. And my inner leg getting jabbed by wide dashboard when using the foot rest.

Gives a nicer ride but annoying when you had better comfort wise

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